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Re: Psychotic cop chokes and tases a 12 year old skater, deletes evidence, claims to be a victim [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21811897 - 06/15/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The typical socially acceptable mantra about cops in the Pub is "fuck those guys, they should all die, we are better without them".




If it wasn't for the sad effects removing police would have on society, it would be fun to watch the cop-haters quickly become the community bitch.

Perhaps someday they'll mature and realize, that like all parts of society, there are good and bad cops.

However, I doubt it. Stupidity like that never really dies,.


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Re: Psychotic cop chokes and tases a 12 year old skater, deletes evidence, claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21811905 - 06/15/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Perhaps someday they'll mature and realize, that like all parts of society, there are good and bad cops.





Mostly bad cops tho


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21811918 - 06/15/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I bet if pris got ass raped by a cop he wwould be like "its not the cops fault hes gay and had sexual urges..all I got was a bloody shitbox and he risked his job...HES A HERO!!"




buhahahaha


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Re: Psychotic cop chokes and tases a 12 year old skater, deletes evidence, claims to be a victim [Re: zZZz]
    #21811961 - 06/15/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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zZZz said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:

Perhaps someday they'll mature and realize, that like all parts of society, there are good and bad cops.





Mostly bad cops tho




I'd bet that like most things, the good outnumbers the bad. At 57 I've interacted with a great many cops. Few were assholes.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21812068 - 06/15/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Perhaps not, but that doesn't excuse those who decided from the video that the cop was in the wrong.




I know he tazed a child twice while the kid was in a chokehold, after seeing that I don't think I need to wait around for the cop's story before I make a judgement call.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: lowbrow]
    #21812111 - 06/15/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Think harder. You didn't see what led to the event. And the video quality is so poor that you really can't tell what, if anything, the kid did while interacting with the cop.

If there was a steady HD video, yup. That bouncy vid from a distance doesn't show enough for the unbiased to tell.

That so many think they can is a sad testament to their reasoning prowess.

Or to put it another way... would you want to be convicted on a video of that quality?


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21812153 - 06/15/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Think harder. You didn't see what led to the event. And the video quality is so poor that you really can't tell what, if anything, the kid did while interacting with the cop.

If there was a steady HD video, yup. That bouncy vid from a distance doesn't show enough for the unbiased to tell.

That so many think they can is a sad testament to their reasoning prowess.

Or to put it another way... would you want to be convicted on a video of that quality?




If say, i were to do what that cop did, to my nephew, at my sister's request, do you think i would be sitting in jail right now? even without the taser, you know i would be.  I also have little doubt that i would be convicted based on video evidence of comparable quality.  But it's cool for the cops though right?


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21812170 - 06/15/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If a cop tells you to stop resisting and you resist he has every right to taze the fuck out of you.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Asante]
    #21812187 - 06/15/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I rather not visit the States either. Your power structure is VERY corrupted to the point that you need a constitutional right to bear arms to perhaps one day overthrow your government by force.

Not that it will come to that but, would you FIGHT? I mean, the Good Fight?



It's best you don't. Your posts indicate to most of us you'd probably end up a victim in the mean streets of the Great American hood. :shrug:


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: D.M.T]
    #21812190 - 06/15/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly the pub has just become a community of a bunch of cry babies whining about the police. It's completely turning me off from some of the people here.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #21812248 - 06/15/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Think harder. You didn't see what led to the event. And the video quality is so poor that you really can't tell what, if anything, the kid did while interacting with the cop.

If there was a steady HD video, yup. That bouncy vid from a distance doesn't show enough for the unbiased to tell.

That so many think they can is a sad testament to their reasoning prowess.

Or to put it another way... would you want to be convicted on a video of that quality?




Well, the video does show an adult male officer of the law put a child in a chokehold and taze him twice.

If you want to tell me I don't see what I see, go for it.

TROLL.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21812330 - 06/15/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If a cop tells you to stop resisting and you resist he has every right to taze the fuck out of you.




JESUS! FUCK! ok, you might be right about that, but my point is and has been that chokeholds are FUCKING ILLEGAL FOR THE COPS IN CALIFORNIA.

chokeholds are FUCKING ILLEGAL FOR THE COPS IN CALIFORNIA.

chokeholds are FUCKING ILLEGAL

FOR THE COPS IN CALIFORNIA.

chokeholds

are

FUCKING

ILLEGAL

FOR

THE

COPS

IN

CALIFORNIA

resistance is irrelevant.

if the cop was applying a carotid restraint rather than a chokehold it would still be illegal unless deadly force were authorized

it would still be illegal unless deadly force were authorized

it would still be illegal

unless deadly force were authorized


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21812376 - 06/15/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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ballsalsa said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Think harder. You didn't see what led to the event. And the video quality is so poor that you really can't tell what, if anything, the kid did while interacting with the cop.

If there was a steady HD video, yup. That bouncy vid from a distance doesn't show enough for the unbiased to tell.

That so many think they can is a sad testament to their reasoning prowess.

Or to put it another way... would you want to be convicted on a video of that quality?




If say, i were to do what that cop did, to my nephew, at my sister's request, do you think i would be sitting in jail right now? even without the taser, you know i would be.




Without the start of the confrontation, we don't know either way. The entire confrontation was not recorded. I come down on the side of wanting the entire story before I decide. Clearly, lack of full knowledge of an event is not important to you and presumption of guilt is where you come down. 


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I also have little doubt that i would be convicted based on video evidence of comparable quality.




Quite possibly.


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But it's cool for the cops though right?




Why is it so hard, for so many, to debate what was actually said? At no point have I said a cop should be able to do anything he wishes, anytime he wishes. Is that really the extent of your ability to comprehend?


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: lowbrow]
    #21812386 - 06/15/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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lowbrow said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Think harder. You didn't see what led to the event. And the video quality is so poor that you really can't tell what, if anything, the kid did while interacting with the cop.

If there was a steady HD video, yup. That bouncy vid from a distance doesn't show enough for the unbiased to tell.

That so many think they can is a sad testament to their reasoning prowess.

Or to put it another way... would you want to be convicted on a video of that quality?




Well, the video does show an adult male officer of the law put a child in a chokehold and taze him twice.

If you want to tell me I don't see what I see, go for it.




I see a cop attempting to place someone under control, the person resisting and the cop tazing him twice.

Quote:

TROLL.




Right, because all who disagree with you must be trolling.  :rofl:


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21812422 - 06/15/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
Honestly the pub has just become a community of a bunch of cry babies whining about the police. It's completely turning me off from some of the people here.




Try looking at it with a positive spin. Clearly a new type of human is developing.

One, that without having access to all the information, is able to somehow know exactly what happened at an event they did not attend and at a location they were not at.

It's amazing!


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #21812435 - 06/15/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if i tell my kid to stop, and my kid resists, and i put my kid in a reverse choke hold and it gets caught on camera, i go to jail for abuse and neglect (lack of air).

if some stranger does it, and that stranger has a badge, its magically ok.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21812446 - 06/15/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It really just puts a bad taste in my mouth when I log on to the shroomery to find eight threads about people here crying about the police.

Sometime this week I am gonna make a thread to put an end to all this bullshit. Seriously, put it to rest. People get killed by cops. Cops get killed by people. Big fucking deal you don't have to post an article every time someone has an interaction with the cops and honestly when you look into the full story ninety percent of the time the person was resisting and not following the commands.

If you wanna be a hothead and fight the police you probably deserve to be shot. They are not there to mess around, their lives are on the line every day and they are not gonna let themselves be shot so you guys can be happy. If you display yourself as a threat they have every right to shoot you, taze you, knock you to the ground. They aren't just gonna smile and say "shoot me, shoot me".

How about all the people here bitching try their job for a day. You would want to protect yourself too.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21812467 - 06/15/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What ridiculous is that it's not hyperbole. The police are responsible for 1000+ homicides per year - around 6% of all homicides. They represent less than 1/3 of a percent of the population yet are responsible for 6% of the homicides. How is that not a dangerous demographic?



So then black people are dangerous too.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: D.M.T]
    #21812768 - 06/15/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: koods] * 1
    #21813048 - 06/15/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The problem with the we don't know argument, is that it always defers to giving the cop the benefit of the doubt. The benefit of the doubt is a RIGHT guaranteed to citizens, not to agents of the state. As an agent of the state, the cop must prove his actions are constitutional, otherwise his actions are an illegal violation of the citizens constitutional rights. The government (and its agents) do not have the benefit of being innocent until proven guilty.





and just where would this 'proving' happen? in the street?

maybe this is the reason so many of these retarded fucks are being beaten and
killed, they think like you, that the cop needs to prove his actions are
constitutional


you clearly have no fucking concept what so ever of how the system works


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