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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21811048 - 06/15/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah because 12 year old kids try attacking cops all the time.

All we have to go on right now is the witness testimony, since the cop deleted most of the video evidence.

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He was riding on his skateboard with other young boys behind a shopping center, and there happened to be a patrol car parked nearby.

At some point an officer inside of the patrol car told the 12-yr-old child to “get in the car.”

The child replied, “Why?”

The officer then warned, “You don’t want to get dropped.”

Witnesses say that at this point the child became scared and continued skating to a safe place away from the officer.  That is when the officer got out of his vehicle and began slugging the child on the back, according to witnesses.

The cop then “dropped” the child to the ground. At this point several witnesses pulled out their phones and began recording.

The cop can be seen in the video tackling and wrestling the child to the concrete.

But then the unthinkable happens. The video shows the cop locking the child in what appears to be a rear chokehold.

As the child is being choked from behind, the officer uses his free hand to bring his taser gun up to the child’s back and shoot it into his spinal area.  The child can be heard screaming, flipping around, and his legs can be seen firing up and down in pain.

The officer then shouts, “Put your fucking hands behind your back!”

The child can be heard saying “I can’t” while screaming.

The next tasering is even more horrendous. The cop literally has the child pinned down to the concrete, and begins tasing his back again. The child’s body can be seen convulsing uncontrollably, his legs flinging up into the air backwards, suggestion serious cardiac problems at this point or possibly seizures.

The other witnesses are heard getting angry and pleading with the cop to stop the attack, saying “He’s just a kid!”

The cop drags the child up and forces him into the patrol car — the child looks visibly injured or motionless.  During the final moments of the scene, the officer still has his taser gun out and begins approaching the witnesses.  The witnesses are heard asking a nearby citizen for help.

“It was scary,” one of them told FilmingCops.com.

“We thought he was gonna start tasing us too.”




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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21811050 - 06/15/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:facepalm: I'm not arguing he shouldn't of been tazed in the first place, after he appeared to be face down, immobilized, with his arms fully spread, is when I think he shouldn't of been tazed again.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21811053 - 06/15/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thats Just Fucking sick the copper should be punished and
im not talking about the law punishment like seriously
just power mad Fucking assholes who should be shoveling shit
for a job it really pisses me off.
we the people cant get involved because we would
be obstructing a police officer whateva that means.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Shroomism]
    #21811066 - 06/15/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I actually did try attacking police as a 12 year old, not the smartest move, but you're not teh smartest you're going to be at 12, luckily the cop was actually pretty cool when that happened with me. In fact you're probably pretty dumb at 12. 12-teens think they know the world, and are usually totally against authority, which is why teenagers are such a pain in the ass to parents. I don't think it's totally out of the question that the kid might of fought back, especially since he ran away and probably didn't want to go home, hence the running away part, and why the mom called the police.

And I didn't fact check it, but Qman said the kid bit him during all this, whether that was before or after, Idk.

I'm also not claiming any of that actually happened, but the point is we don't know what happened, so it's easy to jump to conclusions that the cop was totally at fault especially when your position is clearly opposition to police. I think he tazed the kid after he was already subdued, and that is what is wrong with this video, everything else we don't have enough information yet so claiming one way or another, just shows your own bias.

"He was skateboarding with other young boys" Are all of the witnesses friends of his? Or were these random people who watched giving testimony.


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Re: Psychotic cop chokes and tases a 12 year old skater, deletes evidence, claims to be a victim [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21811073 - 06/15/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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SirShroomsAlott said:
If anything the problem isn't the police directly, there is no way it could possibly be so black and white. If the majority of police are/seem to be out of control, it is many factors and variables that contribute to it. Stemming anywhere from the way the society is operated, to the way they're trained, to the bullshit laws they still have to uphold even if they were to disagree with them.

The police may be part of the problem, but they aren't the cause, attack the cause, not the effect.




Here's the cause: The Fraternal order of police.

It's really quite simple.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 1
    #21811080 - 06/15/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The cop attacked him, how the fuck does a kid just bite a cop unless he's in close quarters, he probably bit him as a response to being choked, fight or flight... and there's no flight :facepalm:


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21811085 - 06/15/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i dont think thats the brightest of opinions
i must say i beleive the kid was scared and
if the copper proked it and wanted to start
something because hes seen no action all day
or if hes a complete prick what can you do.
i dont know the full story but a 12 year old
boy does not have to go in a police car if hes
done nothing wrong and the copper wasnt asking but he was telling him
why couldnt he of resolved it like an adult and
not fuck the kid about.


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Re: Psychotic cop chokes and tases a 12 year old skater, deletes evidence, claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21811087 - 06/15/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
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SirShroomsAlott said:
If anything the problem isn't the police directly, there is no way it could possibly be so black and white. If the majority of police are/seem to be out of control, it is many factors and variables that contribute to it. Stemming anywhere from the way the society is operated, to the way they're trained, to the bullshit laws they still have to uphold even if they were to disagree with them.

The police may be part of the problem, but they aren't the cause, attack the cause, not the effect.




Here's the cause: The Fraternal order of police.

It's really quite simple.




That along with upholding bullshit laws, no one doing shit about poverty stricken areas where a lot of crime happens. It really isn't that simple, and there are way more factors then the two I just mentioned. Can/are police part of the problem, maybe, even probably, but not solely.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21811092 - 06/15/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You don't see what happened before that, the kid might of tried tackling the cop for all we know since the video starts after it already started, he might of only been trying to subdue the kid at that point and had no better way to do so. You can see he tazed the kid after he is down, that is the only questionable thing here, and there might of been a reason for that as well, I can't think of one, but I can't say I know there isn't one.

If someone came swinging full force at me, I doubt a court would convict me for getting him in a chokehold if that's how I had to stop him solely because they're illegal to do, I'm sure even a court can recognize self-defense. That's not what's questionable here.




you aren't getting it.  sure, its legal for YOU to get someone in a chokehold if they attacked you or whatever.  It is not legal for A COP to put a child in a chokehold(in Ca) and a carotid restraint is allowed ONLY if deadly force is authorized(because there is a high chance of death or brain injury)


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Shroomism]
    #21811094 - 06/15/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The cop attacked him, how the fuck does a kid just bite a cop unless he's in close quarters, he probably bit him as a response to being choked, fight or flight... and there's no flight :facepalm:




He was also called there, by the parental figure of the child, in order to get the child, and bring him home. The cop seemed to of been there justly, and trying to take the kid home justly, for all I know the kid immediately resisted and bit him as soon as the cop tried to detain him.

He used excessive force when it came to the tazing, everything else there could easily be an explanation for.


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Re: Psychotic cop chokes and tases a 12 year old skater, deletes evidence, claims to be a victim [Re: koods]
    #21811095 - 06/15/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Look at this fucking joke. How out of touch with reality can people get? What next, meter maids and IRS agents. Loan Officers?

http://www.fop.net/servlet/display/news_article?id=6015&XSL=xsl_pages%2fpublic_news_individual.xsl&nocache=449270

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Enough Is Enough: FOP President Calls on Congress to Expand Hate Crimes Law to Protect Police
Chuck Canterbury, National President of the Fraternal Order of Police, has called on Congress to expand the Federal hate crime laws to protect law enforcement officers and punish those who target these dedicated public servants.

"My thoughts and prayers over the past few weeks have been with the families of officers who were, with malice and forethought, gunned down just because they served as police officers," Canterbury said. "Enough is enough! It's time for Congress to do something to protect the men and women who protect us."




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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Shroomism]
    #21811097 - 06/15/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i Agree the kids scared and being
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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21811098 - 06/15/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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SirShroomsAlott said:
You don't see what happened before that, the kid might of tried tackling the cop for all we know since the video starts after it already started, he might of only been trying to subdue the kid at that point and had no better way to do so. You can see he tazed the kid after he is down, that is the only questionable thing here, and there might of been a reason for that as well, I can't think of one, but I can't say I know there isn't one.

If someone came swinging full force at me, I doubt a court would convict me for getting him in a chokehold if that's how I had to stop him solely because they're illegal to do, I'm sure even a court can recognize self-defense. That's not what's questionable here.




you aren't getting it.  sure, its legal for YOU to get someone in a chokehold if they attacked you or whatever.  It is not legal for A COP to put a child in a chokehold(in Ca) and a carotid restraint is allowed ONLY if deadly force is authorized(because there is a high chance of death or brain injury)




Didn't see the part where it said only if deadly force is authorized.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Shroomism]
    #21811099 - 06/15/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
The cop attacked him, how the fuck does a kid just bite a cop unless he's in close quarters, he probably bit him as a response to being choked, fight or flight... and there's no flight :facepalm:




"The cop attacked him" 

I doubt it, he most likely tried to detain him and return him back to his home.  The kid resisted and the shit went down, don't fight against cops in the street.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21811102 - 06/15/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Nope. I'm just able to watch the video and realize there's non way to tell if a chokehold or cartoid restraint was used.





well, you should try watching the video again. pause it at 1:08 and you will see quite clearly, that the cop is attempting a carotid restraint on the child.




I've watched it enough times to be aware there is little that is clear from that video.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Cujllickduo]
    #21811106 - 06/15/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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the kid was scared and
if the copper proked it and wanted to start
something because hes seen no action all day





He was called to find the kid by the mother. Wasn't because he was bored.


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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Cujllickduo]
    #21811111 - 06/15/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hopfully the kids not traumatized
by the event what occured and no bystanders
even tried to help or talk to the copper or little boy to see if they were ok. Tazing a 12year old boy should be fired.
restraining 1 fucked up thing but tazing
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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21811114 - 06/15/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thankyou didnt know that but
doesnt give the copper a right to do
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Re: Psychotic cop brutalizes chokes and tases a 12 year old skater kid, then claims to be a victim [Re: Shroomism]
    #21811115 - 06/15/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah because 12 year old kids try attacking cops all the time.




No-one said it happens all the time. Are you claiming it never does?


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All we have to go on right now is the witness testimony, since it's claimed the cop deleted most of the video evidence.




Fixed that for you.


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Re: Psychotic cop chokes and tases a 12 year old skater, deletes evidence, claims to be a victim [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 1
    #21811118 - 06/15/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if pris had his way, we would have a gestapo and have to show papers on command.

pris isnt a conservative...conservatives believe in freedom.


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