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OfflineCrocAu
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ID Request please, Victoria
    #21808796 - 06/14/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Habitat:
Park, gums around, near my other patch

Gills:
cream

Stem:
5-7mm fat, ~2" tall

Cap:
mixture

Spore print color:
brown/purple(if one was to trust my eyes) almost black and looking dark as typical subs i picked before

Bruising:
whole bunch have strong blue bruising, some due to condition of mushrooms and my shit eyes are hard to tell 

there is 3 sets and as i mention before i can't trust my eyes with the blue bruising so please help and let me know if i should toss some out
also there is few little bit beaten up, same as with the bruising, advice if i should toss some due to condition would be great :smile:
TIA, couldn't do without your friendly souls :bow2:

3 sets with 3 photos for each set.







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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: CrocAu]
    #21808918 - 06/15/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know much about Subs but shit that's a lot of mushies!

Sounds like you've got the ID downpat, they look like all the other pictures I've seen..


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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: Akurt5]
    #21808927 - 06/15/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah they're subs alright, nice find. Great quality photos too! Really clear and well set out.

wait for a TI to confirm just to be safe.


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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: buddingshroomer]
    #21808952 - 06/15/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i'm feeling quite good about them but i never trust myself with colours of bruising
i'm not 100% with the bruising on all of them but in first set there is 4 that i can't see any blue no matter the light, angle, etc.....

top row 3rd
mid row 3rd & 4th
bot row 3rd

i would love confirmation from TI on all of them but that is my main worry.


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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: CrocAu]
    #21809294 - 06/15/15 05:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:awesomenod: nice haul


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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: CrocAu]
    #21809324 - 06/15/15 05:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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CrocAu said:





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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: Anglerfish]
    #21809359 - 06/15/15 05:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thanks guys :smile:, left half in the ground, i will never use it so many by myself in a million years.

still would love verification, can't see the blue as well as others :frown:
any of them are questionable? pretty please :crazy2:


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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: CrocAu]
    #21809376 - 06/15/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They're all Psilocybe subaeruginosa, nothing questionable there.

Nice, meaty specimens too.


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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: ent]
    #21809402 - 06/15/15 06:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

so you can see blue bruising even on the ones i pointed out in first set ?

first lot of the photos
top row 3rd
mid row 3rd & 4th
bot row 3rd


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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: CrocAu]
    #21809422 - 06/15/15 06:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yep.

For the top picture, bottom row, 3rd mushroom I can only see the bruising in the first photo, in which it is out of focus. Still clear to me though.

They're all clearly subs to my eyes.


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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: ent]
    #21809584 - 06/15/15 07:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thanks ent
yes that one i can see now where you pointed it out i think but not the other ones i mention

i always worry extra when i see no bruising because i see so many post saying "yes looks like you got subs just check for blue bruising to be sure"
so i question any mushroom that shows no blue bruising, even when they look 100% like subs as they do here. am i doing it wrong? is there no look a like that is toxic and only different is no blue bruising?

add to that my poor colour vision and you can see why i'm paranoid :frown:
i feel like nutjob but i just refuse to take a risk even if small. sorry for driving you crazy guys :smile:
saying all of that i'm feeling much better with my own IDs now just the few odd ones


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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: CrocAu]
    #21812395 - 06/15/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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CrocAu said:is there no look a like that is toxic and only different is no blue bruising?



Not here, at least.

Bruising aside, you can usually tell Leratiomyces ceres from subs by the redder colour of the cap and the texture of the cap margin (it usually has little white bits on the margin), though the stipe often looks quite similar to subs'.

Galerina marginata are uniformly brown, so even if the caps look the same (they are often a very similar colour to subs), the stipe will be brown, usually with signs of an annulus and usually with a faint rust-brown spore deposit. Easy (with some experience) to differentiate from subs' dirty white stipe which never has an annulus and often shows a purple spore deposit on the veil remnants, as you can see in your pics. Galerina marginata caps are usually more broadly convex and regular in shape compared to subs, but not always. The best ways to tell them from subs is by their brown stipe, annulus and rust-brown spore print

Those are a few ways to differentiate subs from two toxic lookalikes, without taking bruising (the obvious identifier) into account. I hope that's not too hard to parse. I'm not very good at informing via text.

With experience it will become very easy to tell a sub from a lookalike with close examination.


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Re: ID Request please, Victoria [Re: ent]
    #21812791 - 06/15/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thanks ent, your post was very clear
i always do spore prints, that is why i place them in such formations and with the stems next to original caps.
i can always spot galerina without even doing spore print but i did test print couple of times and was very happy to see the huge difference when compared to typical sub print, this is why i now always do the prints, such great help with ID especially when i'm bit colour blind.

with Leratiomyces ceres being fair bit different and since red colour i have no problem with my eyes and to top it off if i understand correctly they are not deadly even if i get it wrong one day so that makes me feel good now. can't find anywhere spore print photos other than microscopy level spores, they are bit lighter then sub print or in high concentration they are just as dark?

might buy myself microscope to make it even more interesting :laugh:

thanks again for all your help


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