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thehoff117
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Mary Jane and ADHD
#21807671 - 06/14/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So i was diagnosed with ADHD in middle school and went on and off of almost every medication out there. Vyvanse worked the best for me as legal meds go. After high school, i started smoking pot full time, more or less, and didn't really notice my adhd anymore which i figured was because i wasn't in school anymore, just working. I have ADD, just a very hard time staying on task, no hyperactive part, but they are essentially the same thing.
Well i quit smoking about a week ago to piss clean for a possession charge, (I'm very slim and have actually passed a lab urine analysis the day after i smoked, one time, without detox) and figured that with niacin, i should definitely be clean for court if they test me.
Anyway, the first 3 days were very stressful, i work in a texas roadhouse (which is a very high volume restaurant, for those that don't know) so it was hellatious. Actually got sent home because i got too stressed out and went outside to cool off without telling anyone. Aside from the stress, my focus went to the wayside, couldn't stay on task for the life of me.
Now its been a week and the stress is gone by i still can't focus for shit and my drive is very similar to where it was in HS, or lack there of.
I did some research and there is no solid evidence to support that MJ helps with ADHD, but there have been some pre-lab studies done that show promising results. Enough so that a very small amount of physicians have begun prescribing medical marijuana to treat this.
My question is whether or not any of you with ADHD have noticed an improvement in symptoms after habitual pot smoking.
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I read another thread on here the other day where the poster said cannabis helped with ADHD. I don't remember what forum it was in. But, it sounds promising. It seems to have helped you.
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thehoff117
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Re: Mary Jane and ADHD [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#21807749 - 06/14/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was thinking about stopping for good until i noticed this. I'd rather smoke a lil weed everyday than pop an amphetamine and not eat or sleep hardly. i lost 20 pounds when i was on vyvanse. i was 6' and 145 when i started, weighed in at 125 when i was done taking them for a year.
For my height, 145 was already unhealthy.
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Signeg


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Re: Mary Jane and ADHD [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#21807760 - 06/14/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mental Taco



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I think it makes my ADD worse while on it. But afterwards i am certainly more chilled out.
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Edited by Signeg (06/15/15 07:33 PM)
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thehoff117
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Re: Mary Jane and ADHD [Re: Signeg]
#21807835 - 06/14/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Signeg said: A.D.D or A.D.H.D aren't really a disease. It's a made up term(says the guy who named the disease)
You will have a lot more success figuring out things for yourself than taking pharmaceuticals. So mushrooms and cannabis are probably one of the best. But you might find that over time it only makes it harder to deal with society. The reason for the behaviour will be more to do with our unnatural way of life and our society and culture. And probably your personal surroundings and atmosphere. Find things that interest you and don't label yourself with diseases 
The real disease is human culture and society. Make your own path. Learn things for yourself not how you are told 
I don't "label" myself with a disease haha. I don't consider it a disease at all. Many creative geniuses throughout time have had difficulty focusing and getting along with others, even before ADHD was a thing. So this gives me hope for my future if anything.
The lack of focus allows me to think in ways that others don't, simply because my mind will hit 3 or 4 different ideas at a time, where most people can only come up with and balance one idea at a time.
I agree that it is way more hyped up than it should be and giving amphetamines to 6 and 7 year olds is ridiculous. It is a real thing though. Caused by low levels of dopamine in the brain, amphetamines raise dopamine, thats how that works.
And i have the rare ability to use myself to prove to myself it's real because i knew i couldn't focus like other people way before they ever diagnosed me.Quote:
Signeg said: "On his death bed, this psychiatrist pioneer admitted that ADHD is essentially a “fictitious disease,” which means that millions of young children today are being needlessly prescribed severe mind-altering drugs that will set them up for a life of drug addiction and failure. - See more at: http://www.healthcentral.com/adhd/c/268155/162810/add-adhd-fiction-real-disease/#sthash.UCkHlHRU.dpuf"
http://themindunleashed.org/2014/10/adhd-real-disease-says-leading-neuroscientist.html
Its irrelevant if ADHD actually exists or not, because the simple fact that i can't focus or stay on task, and i am very impulsive, and don't fit in with others, and this was fixed by pot is what this thread is about. Calling it ADHD is just a simpler way to put it haha
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Re: Mary Jane and ADHD [Re: Signeg]
#21807907 - 06/14/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Signeg said: "On his death bed, this psychiatrist pioneer admitted that ADHD is essentially a “fictitious disease,” which means that millions of young children today are being needlessly prescribed severe mind-altering drugs that will set them up for a life of drug addiction and failure. - See more at: http://www.healthcentral.com/adhd/c/268155/162810/add-adhd-fiction-real-disease/#sthash.UCkHlHRU.dpuf"
http://themindunleashed.org/2014/10/adhd-real-disease-says-leading-neuroscientist.html
I dont believe in ADD exactly. Better word for it is hyperfocus or hypervigilance. That act of over examining every little thought and aspect of life. Quote:
Hyperfocus is an intense form of mental concentration or visualization that focuses consciousness on a subject, topic, or task. In some individuals, various subjects or topics may also include daydreams, concepts, fiction, the imagination, and other objects of the mind. Hyperfocus on a certain subject can cause side-tracking away from assigned or important tasks.
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anybody who wasn't born ADHD can never know what it's like to live with it and never will know. I laugh in people's faces who say ADHD and ADD are fictitious. I hope you have an ADHD or ADD child someday so you can try to deal with it and maybe gain a more empathetic approach to living with thought processes that are so different from everyone else's
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Signeg


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Edited by Signeg (06/15/15 07:33 PM)
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thehoff117
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Re: Mary Jane and ADHD [Re: Signeg]
#21809158 - 06/15/15 03:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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IMO to deny the existence of a thing that is very real to me is the ignorant view.
I agree that a lot of kids who get diagnosed with adhd are just simply uninterested, but to use them as a guide to all people who suffer from adhd or whatever you want to call a natural lack of focus, is like turning a blind eye to cancer because you don't have it.
As i said previously...well there went my train of thought, as it so often does. And no i am not making an example of this, i literally lost where i was going with that, mid sentence. As so often happens for me. It is a real thing in my life, and i don't need the validation of society to prove this to me.
I appreciate you trying to help, i really do. But you are coming off in a way that says to me (and id assume others) that none of this exists and i am under some deep seeded placebo effect instilled in me by doctors to get me to buy meds. I assure you this isn't the case. Otherwise i'd be taking those legal meds instead of trying to consume an illegal plant to combat the symptoms in a way that i find way more pleasant than feeling like i just took a hit of meth.
You seem to love quoting that article, but you also seem to miss the word "essentially" written in it. when i read that, it means to me that in most cases, it IS a fictitious disease, but not all.
ADHD is very real to me and many others, everyone remembers that kid in school that couldn't sit still, always got in trouble and had very few friends. Guess why he was like that.
I am not trying to start an argument, simply trying to prove that me, and others like me ARE effected by this.
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Signeg


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Edited by Signeg (06/15/15 07:34 PM)
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thehoff117
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I can't focus when i don't smoke pot everyday.
There. completely took adhd out of it. As i said though, the existence of adhd isnt the point of this thread.
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But you are putting up walls and denying the truth and reality. You're only putting a limitation on it by labelling it that.
I try not to make assumptions about other i don't know. Leads to less problems.Quote:
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Signeg said: A.D.D or A.D.H.D aren't really a disease. It's a made up term(says the guy who named the disease)
You will have a lot more success figuring out things for yourself than taking pharmaceuticals. So mushrooms and cannabis are probably one of the best. But you might find that over time it only makes it harder to deal with society. The reason for the behaviour will be more to do with our unnatural way of life and our society and culture. And probably your personal surroundings and atmosphere. Find things that interest you and don't label yourself with diseases 
The real disease is human culture and society. Make your own path. Learn things for yourself not how you are told 
I don't "label" myself with a disease haha. I don't consider it a disease at all. Many creative geniuses throughout time have had difficulty focusing and getting along with others, even before ADHD was a thing. So this gives me hope for my future if anything.
The lack of focus allows me to think in ways that others don't, simply because my mind will hit 3 or 4 different ideas at a time, where most people can only come up with and balance one idea at a time.
I don't see any part of that that says i am letting this limit me. I am not the guy to be like "woah is me, i can't focus so i wont even try, ill never be normal and so on"
It doesn't bother me in a real sense, and if anything, i feel the lack of focus or hyperfocus as it really is, is almost like having a super power. But it still becomes annoying at times, especially when im at work, and i am doing one task and before i know it, i am doing something else, first task left half finished.
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thehoff117
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Oh and i am already very connected with nature, i was homeless and living in the woods for 6 months. I would wake up every morning and whistle with the birds. Its something that deeply changed me and the woods are now my all time favorite place to be.
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Signeg


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#21811996 - 06/15/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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thehoff117
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Re: Mary Jane and ADHD [Re: Signeg]
#21812022 - 06/15/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Peace and love indeed. No hard feelings floating around here.
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