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DMT help...melting ah!
    #21807612 - 06/14/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So this girl I know sent me some very fine crystals in the mail for me to try because im a good friend.

problem is, when they got here, the crystals melted completely. 98% of the dmt is gone...nowhere to be found. Of course shes upset and I am disappointed.

she wants to try it one more time but doesn't want this problem again...so I told her I would ask you guys.


Any solution to this? the crystals were in capsules


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21807625 - 06/14/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've mailed in capsules and never had a problem with melting. Could try a vial.


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: Icon]
    #21807677 - 06/14/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

is there anyway to keep the vial cool?

it comes from florida so the heat is certainly a factor..its 2 day shipping so its not like its just sitting around in the heat for long periods of time


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: Icon]
    #21807682 - 06/14/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Have her buy a $5 non stick container for concentrates. I have some dmt/nmt goo that i store in those and have never had a problem getting it out or losing it.

A vial could work, but it might be a pain to get all of it out.


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21807689 - 06/14/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
is there anyway to keep the vial cool?

it comes from florida so the heat is certainly a factor..its 2 day shipping so its not like its just sitting around in the heat for long periods of time




If it is in a perfectly sealed container, it can't escape. you shouldn't need to keep it cool because you can just throw it in the freezer when you get it to re solidify


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: thehoff117]
    #21807838 - 06/14/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If its melted im pretty sure its spreadout inside the capsule. No way it would have evaporated out of the capsule.


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: qweqaz] * 1
    #21808741 - 06/14/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just tell her to dissolve it in alcohol or naphtha so its a solution then you can evaporate it when it gets to you


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: sbc1]
    #21809648 - 06/15/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I agree with the thehoff, no-stick silicone concentrate container and then have your friend vacuum seal the container. The only thing I worry about with diluting in alcohol at least is the unknown content that isn't alcohol (assuming we're using something like PGA, in which about 5% of the contents aren't alcohol) not coming off when trying to resolidify material.


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: bipittybop_baDOW]
    #21809654 - 06/15/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

im trying to receive powder, remember, not oil.

So I should still go with the non-stick container to ensure the powder wont melt?

the goal is to make the powder/crystals stay perfectly intact in hot climate


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21809853 - 06/15/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

DMT has a pretty low melting point, no way to avoid it unless you shipped it like a perishable food item. Either way though, even if the DMT crystal melts and turns to a goo, it should be the exact same substance as it was previously, just the form factor is different. That's why he's saying put it into one of those silicon dab containers so if/when it does melt, the goo is very easy to extract from the container.


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: daytripper05]
    #21810642 - 06/15/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

daytripper05 said:
DMT has a pretty low melting point, no way to avoid it unless you shipped it like a perishable food item. Either way though, even if the DMT crystal melts and turns to a goo, it should be the exact same substance as it was previously, just the form factor is different. That's why he's saying put it into one of those silicon dab containers so if/when it does melt, the goo is very easy to extract from the container.




Exactly. And i am not 100% sure about this, but im pretty sure if they were crystals to begin with and melt, they can be re solidified in the freezer. But either way, even dmt crystals can be super sticky sometimes, so the concentrate container is perfect.


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21810883 - 06/15/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You could ship it in a cooler :shrug:


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21811139 - 06/15/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So a vile wouldn't work?


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It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21811262 - 06/15/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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So a vile wouldn't work?




I always have trouble with my crystals melting on me as soon as I step outside. I remember my friend wanted to smoke some so I decided to walk to his 15 minutes away. By the time I got to his house 300mg melted inside my vial and We had to take dabs of an unknown amount.

I wish I didn't live somewhere so hot.


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: daytripper05] * 1
    #21811882 - 06/15/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

daytripper05 said:
DMT has a pretty low melting point, no way to avoid it unless you shipped it like a perishable food item. Either way though, even if the DMT crystal melts and turns to a goo, it should be the exact same substance as it was previously, just the form factor is different.






^this....






Was the dmt just dumped loosely into the envelope?....I've had it melt completely inside a capsule around 90 degrees or so, I just placed it back inside at room temp for a few hours, opened the cap and gave it a squeeze and the solid chunk fell out.







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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: openmind]
    #21811892 - 06/15/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't want goo. I want the crystals just as they were when they were sent.


Is there anyway to accomplish this?


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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21811906 - 06/15/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's pretty simple here. If you wanted to mail someone ice cubes in a specific shape and it melts during transport, is the water that you refreeze going to be in the same shape? Only way to avoid it is to prevent the crystals from melting in the first place.

Melting point of pure DMT is 40 °C (104 °F).


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: daytripper05]
    #21811945 - 06/15/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

that's what im trying to do.

what can my friend do to make sure the crystals do not melt to begin with?


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21811965 - 06/15/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bill, i got it!

Insulate!

place a DMT vial *inside* a container of honey. Honey should be an excellent insulator.


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Re: DMT help...melting ah! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21811971 - 06/15/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Bill, i got it!

Insulate!

place a DMT vial *inside* a container of honey. Honey should be an excellent insulator.





Can anyone confirm if this will work!?

So I just open up a jar of honey, and stuff the vile through the honey, then close the jar, and send?


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
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Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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