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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21810682 - 06/15/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So what makes a person Hispanic then exactly?


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: psi] * 1
    #21810696 - 06/15/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Eating tacos more then 2 times a week.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Gorlax]
    #21810713 - 06/15/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like I qualified last week but not this week. Not yet anyway.

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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: psi]
    #21810758 - 06/15/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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psi said:
So what makes a person Hispanic then exactly?


From what I understand they are of combined race of european spaniards an the indigenous people of mexico central and south america. I son't think spannish speaking enters into the mix. :shrug: Hispanic is not a race it is a culture. Or better put a bunch of cultures combined and regionalized.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21810784 - 06/15/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It just seems like a very vague category to me, ripe for abuse. You can be white, black, native, or any combination thereof, and you don't even need to know Spanish. You just need to claim some ancestral connection to a place in the New World where Spanish (or maybe Portuguese?) is spoken.

If someone claims to be Hispanic for a form and they are disbelieved, what next? Will the employer be willing to risk bad publicity by challenging them to prove their Hispanicness?


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: psi]
    #21810813 - 06/15/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Why should a trans racial have to justify the way he idenrifies with himself, but a trans sexual does not?

why should a trans-handicap need to justify his identity on his disability application forms when a trans sexual wouldn't need to on forms he fills out?


*spoiler;  is this not a slippery slope?  /spoiler


what if I identify as a dog,  would I be allowed off leash in parks?

why is one type of DNA trans- identity (trans sexualism)  well accepted, but any other type of DNA Trans-identity not?


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Shins] * 1
    #21810817 - 06/15/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There is absolutely no difference between identifying with a different race and identifying with a different sex.

Geeze you guys are such block heads sometimes. I thought the shroomery would be the last place to judge people.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21810828 - 06/15/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Spanish people are not exactly fond of the South/Central Americans labeled Hispanic.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21810855 - 06/15/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
It's not my job to educate you, man. Sex refers to the shape of the genitals, gender refers to the psychology, i.e. the shape of the brain.




You seem to be confusing "shape of the genitals" with either DNA and/or chromosomes.

While you deserve to be treated decently regardless, stating or even believing you are other than what you are born does not make it so. With or without the "shape of the genitals".


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810879 - 06/15/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The trans-racial argument is by the far the stupidest thing to emerge from this incident.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Gorlax] * 2
    #21810911 - 06/15/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I am trans stapler.



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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Gorlax]
    #21810915 - 06/15/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The trans-racial argument is by the far the stupidest thing to emerge from this incident.





Why is it stupid to be trans racial, but not to be trans sexual?  Other than preference to organs (skin or genitals) what is the difference if both identify the way they do psychologically?

nothing.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Shins]
    #21810920 - 06/15/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Gorlax said:
The trans-racial argument is by the far the stupidest thing to emerge from this incident.





Why is it stupid to be trans racial, but not to be trans sexual?  Other than preference to organs (skin or genitals) what is the difference if both identify the way they do psychologically?

nothing.





I was born a man, but I feel like a stapler.  Is that stupid?


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Herbologist]
    #21810924 - 06/15/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
Quote:

Shins said:
Quote:

Gorlax said:
The trans-racial argument is by the far the stupidest thing to emerge from this incident.





Why is it stupid to be trans racial, but not to be trans sexual?  Other than preference to organs (skin or genitals) what is the difference if both identify the way they do psychologically?

nothing.





I was born a man, but I feel like a stapler.  Is that stupid?





No more stupid than if you feel like a woman...in theory.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Shins]
    #21810929 - 06/15/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

what if I am trans-species?

I kinda feel like a tree today.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810931 - 06/15/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

BlindSophist said:
It's not my job to educate you, man. Sex refers to the shape of the genitals, gender refers to the psychology, i.e. the shape of the brain.




You seem to be confusing "shape of the genitals" with either DNA and/or chromosomes.

While you deserve to be treated decently regardless, stating or even believing you are other than what you are born does not make it so. With or without the "shape of the genitals".




I'm not sure what planet you're from, but here on Earth, doctors sex newborns based on the physical appearance of the genitals and not karyotypes.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Gorlax]
    #21810932 - 06/15/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The trans-racial argument is by the far the stupidest thing to emerge from this incident.




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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Herbologist]
    #21810937 - 06/15/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Herbologist said:
what if I am trans-species?

I kinda feel like a tree today.





Why not?  If were for trans acceptance than shouldn't we be consistent? 

Would you then be protected by the forestry act the same way a trans sexual would be protected by say... affirmative action?

Where does the slippery slope end?


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21810945 - 06/15/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

BlindSophist said:
It's not my job to educate you, man. Sex refers to the shape of the genitals, gender refers to the psychology, i.e. the shape of the brain.




You seem to be confusing "shape of the genitals" with either DNA and/or chromosomes.

While you deserve to be treated decently regardless, stating or even believing you are other than what you are born does not make it so. With or without the "shape of the genitals".




I'm not sure what planet you're from, but here on Earth, doctors sex newborns based on the physical appearance of the genitals and not karyotypes.




I didn't say anything about Doctors. I did however, speak about chromosomes.

So your chromosomes say you're... what?


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #21810953 - 06/15/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

http://m.torontosun.com/2015/06/08/becoming-disabled-by-choice-not-chance-transabled-people-feel-like-impostors-in-their-fully-working-bodies

"Transabled" people feel like imposters in their bodies and many crave an amputation or paralysis. Researchers in Canada are trying to better understand how transabled people think and feel. Clive Baldwin, pictured, a Canada Research Chair in Narrative Studies who teaches social work at St. Thomas University in Fredericton, N.B., has interviewed 37 people worldwide who identify as transabled.


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