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Webster10 said:
Question: If a story of equivalent popularity emerged, but instead of a white person faking to be black, it was of a black person faking to be white, would the race baiters and the lefties claim that the person was guilted and bullied into denying their own race by a racist society? I think so.

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In the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, African women wearing lip plates were brought to Europe and North America for exhibit in circuses and sideshows. Around 1930, Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey promoted them as members of the Ubangi tribe, but the Ringling press agent admitted he picked that name from a map for its exotic sound.[14] The word Ubangi was still given a definition as an African tribe in 2009 in some English-language dictionaries.[15] The word was used in this way in the 1937 Marx Brothers film A Day at the Races.

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D.M.T said:
You can be whatever you want to be if you put your mind to it.

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Webster10 said:
Exactly. Over the years, many factors, including, as you mentioned, differing environmental conditions, have shaped different groups of humans to be every so slightly different. These differences are existential and quite obvious, there is no denying that. These differences, at least in my opinion, qualify as being distinct enough to apply the term race to different groups of humans. These differences should be embraced by the human groups that share them. Biological differences don't equate to social constructs and shared culture. Eminem for example grew up in Detroit Michigan and became a rapper, which is something much more typical of a different demographic than his. He faced the tribulations that some under-privledged african americans face and shared similar experiences with them. Yet he doesn't identify as black, nor should Dolezal, because they don't share the same biological identity as real black people.

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D.M.T said:
You can be whatever you want to be if you put your mind to it.

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I want to be a sledgehammer...

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I think I'm gonna be a blind Rachel A. Dolezal in a wheelchair but with a dragon's tail and the ability to see the future.

I'll be a trans-sighted-racial-abled-monster-superhero. I can't  wait till I'm on the news and I get a reality show!!!

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Webster10 said:
Exactly. Over the years, many factors, including, as you mentioned, differing environmental conditions, have shaped different groups of humans to be every so slightly different. These differences are existential and quite obvious, there is no denying that. These differences, at least in my opinion, qualify as being distinct enough to apply the term race to different groups of humans. These differences should be embraced by the human groups that share them. Biological differences don't equate to social constructs and shared culture. Eminem for example grew up in Detroit Michigan and became a rapper, which is something much more typical of a different demographic than his. He faced the tribulations that some under-privledged african americans face and shared similar experiences with them. Yet he doesn't identify as black, nor should Dolezal, because they don't share the same biological identity as real black people.

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Black people don't share the same biological identity as other black people, so why do you insist on grouping them all together as essentially different than whites?

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moonrockmushy said:
There are distict traits that all black and white people share, the only difference between the two groups is skin color, which is not broken into black in which either genetically or using the most basic common sense.  It operates on a continuum.  All people except albinos produce melanin.  Trying to say that the amount of melanin is a good way to group people is like trying to say how much hair or how many teeth someone produces is a good way to group people, but only one is part of common racist ideologies.

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