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Supachopped719
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BlindSophist said:
There is nothing in common between what transgender people experience and what Dolezal has done. There is nothing similar between identifying with a gender other than that which you were assigned from birth due to inborn hormonal irregularities in your brain and identifying exclusively with the culture of another race due to fucked up parenting. The expression, "transracial" is a bad tranaphobic joke, not an actual thing. Rachel Dolezal is not trans anything, she is a professional wigger and a fraud. End of story.
So transsexuals are the way they are because of 'Inborn hormonal irregularities' and Rachel is the way she is because of fucked up parenting?
I dunno, there probly hasnt been any studies or research Into why extreme wiggers exist, but what if there was someday and they find some verifiable psychological or 'irregularities'? Then would she be comparable?
Sounds like you just want to remain 'special' and this new emerging demographic of transracials is gonna end up sharing the T in LGBT. Do cross dressers fit somewhere in the LGBT club?
Aren't all transsexuals just cross dressers until they have their surgeries and hormone treatments?
Also your claim about being abLe to just up and murder a transsexual is false. That defence can only be used if you have sex with some girl and it turns out she was born David and you find out, in which you fly into a rage and kill them.
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psi
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: psi]
#21828857 - 06/19/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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BlindSophist said: That doesn't make it a valid comparison at all. A logical error is not rendered correct by virtue of being common.
I was unable to decipher what you meant by this. Can you rephrase?
I'm still not sure which logical error you were talking about. IMO the similarity in the situations is that an intolerant reaction stems from the perception of a false and undeserved claim to a certain identity. I think it speaks to a culture that is acutely fixated on this stuff, who fits into what narrative and who has or doesn't have the birthright to make claim x, y or z about their identity. So that is the common ground I think. Very different causes and they are in no way equivalent in the degree of personal choice over the matter, but the response to both fits into a broader context of people's aggressive nosiness about ethnic and gender identity when someone looks different somehow.
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: zappaisgod]
#21828865 - 06/19/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Oh yeah, I forgot about that failure. Big one? What are the ratings? MSNBC is an overall joke.
http://www.newsmax.com/US/Al-Sharpton-MSNBC-falling-ratings-key-demo/2015/02/10/id/623842/
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Civil rights activist the Rev. Al Sharpton had the lowest-rated show across the big three cable news networks on Friday evening last week, according to Mediaite.
Sharpton's "PoliticsNation" on MSNBC dropped to an average of just 59,000 viewers in the key age demographic ages of 25-54 during the 6 p.m. time slot.
So I guess he is (or was) a media figure. I was wrong. 59,000 viewers. LOL
Yeah I tuned into that MSNBC segment where he covered the Dolezal story just to see how wacky his opinion would be. I wasn't dissapointed.
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Webster10]
#21828892 - 06/19/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trans panic is amore legit defence than gay panic jus sayn. N u no i love everyone BS but i try to see things from all views. Its the only way to see the truth. Its not right tho. If you kill them it should be manslaughter. I mean dewd basically got raped.
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Shins
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#21828922 - 06/19/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wonder how blindsophist feels about transabled people?
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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Shins]
#21828940 - 06/19/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im so fucking sick of the dumb labels trans whatever the fuck. Its all just people. Nobody cares anymore your not even that sepecial get over youself no one gives a fuck wtf is wrong withevery one?
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#21828971 - 06/19/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Everyone is stupid, emotional and inconsistent, welcome to humanity.
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Shins]
#21829039 - 06/19/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Im so fucking sick of the dumb labels trans whatever the fuck. Its all just people. Nobody cares anymore your not even that sepecial get over youself no one gives a fuck wtf is wrong withevery one?
Obviously you care, since you don't believe what happened to Gwen Aurajo was murder.
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I care too much its one of my biggest weaknesses thanks for pointing out my flaws
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 2
#21829074 - 06/19/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I got an issue with somebody who presents as a woman, you take her home and make out and go for the grab and find a handful of cock and balls. That is not right. BUt it doesn't justify killing them.
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: zappaisgod]
#21829082 - 06/19/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I concur
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: zappaisgod]
#21829089 - 06/19/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Check out this article on The Government of Canada's official national news station:
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/q/schedule-for-wednesday-june-10-2015-1.3107352/desiring-disability-what-does-it-mean-to-be-transabled-1.3107353

Desiring disability: What does it mean to be transabled?
Body Integrity Identification Disorder, or BIID for short, is one of the most secretive emerging areas in research psychiatry today. (Ben Shannon/CBC)
Listen 23:08
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/q/desiring-disability-what-does-it-mean-to-be-transabled-1.3107626?autoplay=true
Imagine longing to live in a different body ... a body less whole. It's a complicated and stigmatized disorder; one that researchers are working to understand. People who become fixated on these feelings, often from a young age, are called transabled. Some of them want amputations, others want to be paralyzed or lose their sense of sight or hearing. For insight on the rare condition, known as Body Integrity Identity Disorder, Shad speaks with two guests:
Mark Comer, a man who has lived with BIID since childhood and now uses a wheelchair. Dr. Michael First, a researcher who explores the psychology and social stigma of choosing disability
Please note: this segment contains graphic details.
q: Should BIID sufferers have the right to choose disability? Does the medical profession have the responsibility to give them the choice?
Producer's Note: We would like to thank Clive Baldwin, Canada Research Chair in Narrative Studies at St. Thomas University for his invaluable input to get this segment to air.
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Shins]
#21829151 - 06/19/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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We already have a name for that, malingering. They want a govt paycheck for their disability so they invent one. Instead of a fake disability like Rachel claimed, they get a real physical one. They should be put in institutions.
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Stonehenge] 2
#21829174 - 06/19/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Now we have another hypocritical incident. During an Oct. 2014 radio interview in Spokane, Rachel said she planned to boycott a movie because a white actor played the biblical Moses. She was discussing the movie “Exodus: Gods and Kings.” The movie, which told the tale of Moses, starred white English actor Christian Bale.
“A lot of people might go to that film, hopefully nobody goes to that film, we need to boycott that film from my perspective because it’s mis-education, It’s misrepresentation, and it’s highly offensive to the people that actually were living during that time and also to people today, it’s robbing and shredding their ancestry and history,” She continued, also citing Charlton Heston as another actor who she believes should not have played Moses because he was white.
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Astral Pain]
#21829235 - 06/19/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha.
Where is the line drawn?
this could get so ridiculous.
not that I really mind whatever people want to be but disability checks? Its an exploit. Or is it? Do people really haave some thing where its real to them?
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Shins]
#21829275 - 06/19/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You know, i really wish i had a Scottish accent.
it would be pretty badass, you know? its like a cross between english and irish accents. its perfect. and sexy. and rugged. and everything i feel like i am. i am technically irish(and german, and polish). whats so wrong with my talking like a Scot? im close enough
i think i might get weird looks from my parents if i start talking like a Scot though. best stick to my native west pa accent.
just a thought. i wonder where people stand on faking accents
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Shins]
#21829312 - 06/19/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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dewd Quote:
Shins said: Haha.
Where is the line drawn?
this could get so ridiculous.
not that I really mind whatever people want to be but disability checks? Its an exploit. Or is it? Do people really haave some thing where its real to them?
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As soon as you start drawn lines shit gets interesting how do u define a line personally shin?
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#21829405 - 06/19/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think people should be able to be whatever they want, but they shouldn't get any special privileges.
The transabled thing gets me because they're talking about disablity checks, and that's kind of a special privilege.
but also what if they truly are transabled? Or have amputated? I also kind of think they fall under the category of isabled in the current disability laws.
so its kind of a paradox.
if I self identify as a gun am I protected by the second ammendment?
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Shins]
#21829451 - 06/19/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Had no idea Rachel's an incredible artist, but now one of her paintings is under scrutiny for plagiarism. She even has an agent with a potential book deal, and one has to wonder if this wasn't all just a big promotion. I have heard(don't quote me on it) there's going to be a remake of the film "Black Like Me" as well, so there's no telling how deep this may run. She's looking more and more like a sock puppet, but who owns the hand that's controlling it is the question.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3125889/Now-race-faker-Rachel-Dolezal-faces-claims-ART-WORK-plagiarized.html
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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Astral Pain] 1
#21829467 - 06/19/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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She's absolutely a sock puppet. The story is a massive troll.
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