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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21827219 - 06/19/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Have you ever heard of the "one drop rule"?


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21827226 - 06/19/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So what racist category are white/black people.  Mongrels?  Half-breeds?  Oh wait it's right up there ^  mutt seems to be your preferred word for when people who are white and black are mixed. 

Now we're getting somewhere.  So that is how you determine who is a mutt by race.  How do you determine a pure blooded white or black person?  It's just something you feel in your gut, right?  That is how you know it is real, and because racism is real so race must be real of course :lol:


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21827229 - 06/19/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wasn't aware we're still in 1900's...

Still, her white mom must be so proud that she's forgotten all about her white ancestors. Publicly. To turn a buck.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21827239 - 06/19/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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So what racist category are white/black people.  Mongrels?  Half-breeds?  Oh wait it's right up there ^  mutt seems to be your preferred word for when people who are white and black are mixed. 

Now we're getting somewhere.  So that is how you determine who is a mutt by race.  How do you determine a pure blooded white or black person?  It's just something you feel in your gut, right?  That is how you know it is real, and because racism is real so race must be real of course :lol:




:blah:

You seem immune to my self deprecatory humor..


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21827240 - 06/19/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Have you ever heard of the "one drop rule"?




It's time we move on to a zero drop rule.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21827244 - 06/19/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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So what racist category are white/black people.  Mongrels?  Half-breeds?  Oh wait it's right up there ^  mutt seems to be your preferred word for when people who are white and black are mixed. 

Now we're getting somewhere.  So that is how you determine who is a mutt by race.  How do you determine a pure blooded white or black person?  It's just something you feel in your gut, right?  That is how you know it is real, and because racism is real so race must be real of course :lol:




:blah:

You seem immune to my self deprecatory humor..




If you're fucking with me, you're doing a great job, because you've clearly been racist long before we ever interacted.  If it's all a joke you're pretty fucking tasteless and not funny, and really to blame for all my rambling here as much as myself.

And I don't think you understand what self-deprecation is.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21827258 - 06/19/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can't define 'race'...can't define 'racist'... yet insist I am one.
Once you blanket anyone who disagrees with you as 'racist' it's kinda hard to see them as people, isn't it?

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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21827279 - 06/19/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have actually, in our PMs, but you don't seem to listen.  It's on wikipedia if you really care to know.  I'm not going to waste more time talking to someone with the intellect of a wall.

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Racism consists of ideologies and practices that seek to justify, or cause, the unequal distribution of privileges, rights or goods among different racial groups (<<<<<<IE RACE). Modern variants are often based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. These can take the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently.[1][2][3]




I am not asking you to define the word race, that can be done, I am asking you to define a race, which I agree cannot be done, which is why racism is invalid.  Not because racism, or the idea of race, or people who are racist don't exists.  They all do.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21827280 - 06/19/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Wasn't aware we're still in 1900's...




It's almost as if you believe the recent past should have no impact on people's present day outlooks and choices. That is unrealistic. Racial categories which have been entrenched over the centuries don't just disappear overnight because of your personal disapproval.

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Still, her white mom must be so proud that she's forgotten all about her white ancestors. Publicly. To turn a buck.




I think her mom hates her

What I hate is that this is not looking like it's going to go away. She's going to stay in the spotlight for God knows how long. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21827289 - 06/19/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I agree with you. Whoo hooo! A (certain amount of) consensus has been reached!

Online!

My position, such as it is, is that we cannot put it all behind us, or remain stuck to old ways of seeing.
Discussing the differences, and the reasons for them, is the next step to understanding both sides, or all sides.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #21827303 - 06/19/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think it's kind of hilarious in a way that just this one woman's kookiness has stirred up so much shit though. Maybe one day we will not be quite so concerned about who does or doesn't have the genetic birthright to which social roles and cultural practices, but it won't be any time soon I think.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21827308 - 06/19/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Discussing the differences, and the reasons for them, is the next step to understanding both sides, or all sides.




That already happened, now we are in the dragging the dumbasses up to speed stage.  You guys may be fervent but you're the minority now :hehehe:  And before you ask, because it is one of those dumb lines I get again and again like 'how can race not be real if racism is', yes I have no problem being prejudice against racists.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21827310 - 06/19/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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So what racist category are white/black people.  Mongrels?  Half-breeds?  Oh wait it's right up there ^  mutt seems to be your preferred word for when people who are white and black are mixed. 

Now we're getting somewhere.  So that is how you determine who is a mutt by race.  How do you determine a pure blooded white or black person?  It's just something you feel in your gut, right?  That is how you know it is real, and because racism is real so race must be real of course :lol:




Nah, genes.

White people are some weird hybrid ya

Not as intelligent as eastern ethnicities
not as physical as black

caucasians are lame yo

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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21827319 - 06/19/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Once you blanket anyone who disagrees with you as 'racist' it's kinda hard to see them as people, isn't it?





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You guys may be fervent but you're the minority now :hehehe: 




Sounds like someone is not ready for an adult conversation between equals.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: Beanhead]
    #21827326 - 06/19/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I tried this on soup earlier but he refused to take part, but maybe it will help you understand things better:

http://www.understandingrace.org/humvar/quiz.html

There is no white gene.  There is no black gene.  There are many combinations of genetic code which can result in a wide array of skin color and body types, but it is in no way split along black/white.  That is a thing that came about from racism, but that isn't how the modern world works, so it's time to let it go.

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Once you blanket anyone who disagrees with you as 'racist' it's kinda hard to see them as people, isn't it?





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You guys may be fervent but you're the minority now :hehehe: 




Sounds like someone is not ready for an adult conversation between equals.




wtf are we doing?  what do you think that contributes?


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: moonrockmushy] * 3
    #21827350 - 06/19/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just fucking stop.  There are lots of unique Caucasian genes and lots of unique Negroid genes and lots of unique East Asian genes and unique Semitic genes.  They recently identified a skeleton as Native American and not European based on his genetic code.  The census asks about race.  Affirmative action codifies race.  The whole diversity nonsense codifies race.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21827355 - 06/19/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Discussing the differences, and the reasons for them, is the next step to understanding both sides, or all sides.




That already happened, now we are in the dragging the dumbasses up to speed stage.  You guys may be fervent but you're the minority now :hehehe:  And before you ask, because it is one of those dumb lines I get again and again like 'how can race not be real if racism is', yes I have no problem being prejudice against racists.



If there is no race there are no racists.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21827405 - 06/19/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Just fucking stop.  There are lots of unique Caucasian genes and lots of unique Negroid genes and lots of unique East Asian genes and unique Semitic genes.  They recently identified a skeleton as Native American and not European based on his genetic code.  The census asks about race.  Affirmative action codifies race.  The whole diversity nonsense codifies race.




There are?  This has already come up.  They made a determination about the likelihood a skeleton was from a population associated with a particular time and place.

Everyone has unique genes, there is absolutely no genetic line between black and white, or caucasain and negroid if those are you preferred racial terms.  If there were you could show me evidence of that.


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21827415 - 06/19/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You guys may be fervent but you're the minority now :hehehe:





So... what do you mean by 'you guys'?


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Re: Rachel A. Dolezal is a disgusting human being [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21827419 - 06/19/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If there is no race there are no racists.




Now you just fucking stop you guys are repeating youselves to an extreme degree now.  I do not want to rehash this.

please read:  http://academic.udayton.edu/race/01race/race08.htm


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