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with no chemical help,
you can look at your body from an outside perspective.
leave the area your body is in.
look at other things you otherwise could not see.
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there are different stages of it.
some are very much like smoking dmt to breakthrough.
some are like being awake, where you are without color. or i should say that light sources are SOOO amplified that everything seems like it is making or reflecting ultra strong white light.
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astrial projection isnt bullshit. its not that easy, but its very interesting.
a good way to start is to move a finger, up and down until you really KNOW the feeling of it. and then to stop actually moving it, but continue to feel the movement in it.
then work on two fingers, three... etc etc.
when you get good at moving the energy of your body parts without physically moving them, you'll move to your eyes one day, and pop out.... you'll know exactly how real it is and it will blow your mind.
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Re: Astral Projection..BULLSHIT!? [Re: Asante]
#21804256 - 06/13/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Asante said: Astral projction doesnt feel like bullshit when you are astral projecting.
Did you direct that to me? I feel most people who simply sleep just go unconscious for awhile. I didn't mean that in a "ap=bullshit" way, just that if you can be aware of a full 8 hour sleep cycle, you'll realize ap, happens everynight, just not until you stay conscious for it, would you notice it. Idk its impossible to describe a feeling, ive projected before, no proof, but i hope nothimg i said was interpreted as saying its bs.
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Idk,the majority of my projections, have happened while sober and keeping a blank slated mind, while staying aware of every step of the sleep function. 
Really oversimplified way of putting it, but whatever you think following those steps entails, in my own personal experience, will have you flying through every dimension every night.
-------------------- I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed. Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists. I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke. In erowid we trust. Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.
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nono wasnt directed at you specifically. Dreams are a mystery, there is much to be learned about life from them. Why do people/cats/dolphins dream? Whats the evolutionary benefit to being knocked out for 1/3-2/3 of your life, species dependent?
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Re: Astral Projection..BULLSHIT!? [Re: Asante]
#21804383 - 06/14/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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AP is just an OBE at will, and lucid dreaming is just another form of an OBE. The closest to AP in regards to lucid dreaming would be a WILD(wake induced lucid dream) where you remain lucid as you drift off into a dream. It just takes some time and practice as well as consistent sleep habits. Dreams are the other part of your existence and should be taken just as serious as your waking life imo.
Imagine having a totally shitty day, but in the back of your head you know you'll be living it up when you go to sleep that night. I can't believe it when I hear people say they never even remember their dreams and don't even care. What a shame to be a prisoner trapped in a 100% physical reality your entire life.
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Re: Astral Projection..BULLSHIT!? [Re: Astral Pain]
#21804419 - 06/14/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I prefer my OBE on MXE 
Had some great ones yesterday
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Re: Astral Projection..BULLSHIT!? [Re: Asante]
#21804440 - 06/14/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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If that's the stuff in robo DM, I've only tried that a few times. Made me create movies in my head and get really creative with plots. I could be a screenwriter on that stuff.
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Re: Astral Projection..BULLSHIT!? [Re: Astral Pain]
#21804466 - 06/14/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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nono, MXE not DXM!
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Re: Astral Projection..BULLSHIT!? [Re: Asante]
#21804509 - 06/14/15 12:50 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've got some learnin to do...
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Re: Astral Projection..BULLSHIT!? [Re: Astral Pain]
#21804515 - 06/14/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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MXE = Methoxetamine, a drug inbetween Ketamine and PCP. Same clas of drugs though, dissociatives.
DXM is not that bad if you can get it pure, I hear.
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Re: Astral Projection..BULLSHIT!? [Re: Asante]
#21804554 - 06/14/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Asante said: Astral projction doesnt feel like bullshit when you are astral projecting.
Especially when you are literally flying through space watching the asteroids silently go by, and Earth is shrinking..
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Re: Astral Projection..BULLSHIT!? [Re: chopstick]
#21804557 - 06/14/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I havent yet consciously done it. I do it every night I'm sure but I want to be lucid.
Maybe African Dream Herb (Silene Capensis) will do it for me. I have some, gathered by an actual Sangoma.
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Re: Astral Projection..BULLSHIT!? [Re: Asante]
#21805121 - 06/14/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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dont need no astrology- its inside of you and me- dont need no ticket to ride with me- i'm free
flying high again.
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Re: Astral Projection..BULLSHIT!? [Re: rxb]
#21806428 - 06/14/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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I ended up getting stoned and trying it last night but my mind wouldn't shut up. Cannabis has been very introspective lately. Now since MXE and dissociative drugs are being brought up I've been pretty interested in them. Im usually strictly a classic psychedelic guy but the idea of experiencing pure consciousness while disconnected from your physical body is way too interesting to ignore. I have robo-tripped once which suckeddddd. I threw up,felt dirty , and couldn't walk straight. It wasn't colorful, it wasn't eye opening, in fact I felt like I dumbed my self down with that "trip." How does MXE and Ketamine compare? Besides DXM and Salvia I have not tried a dissociative. Do they put you into other dimensions? I'm still unclear about the effects of these drugs. Do they give you OBE? Do you talk to beings? Does the physical reality around you disappear? Might be off topic a little but I feel like astral projection is in the same boat as a dissociative trip.
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I ended up getting stoned and trying it last night but my mind wouldn't shut up.
its not a one night deal... its a dedication and commitment deal.
seet aside some time every day to practice.
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