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Satyr604
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Mushroom trips and hayfever
#21806282 - 06/14/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi all. I'm planning on tripping sometimes soon. The only problem is: it's hayfever top season. I feel like I've been cutting onions and snorting ground pepper. As you can probably imagine, the feeling really sucks. I hope it doesn't bum me during the trip.
However, some people report they didn't have any symptoms at all while tripping. Seems odd to me, but I'd just thought I'd ask.. Does anyone have any experience with this?
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Satyr604]
#21807391 - 06/14/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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derp how about some hayfever medicine derp?
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Satyr604]
#21807418 - 06/14/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psilocybin mushrooms can stimulate mucus production. Would not want to dose while experiencing hayfever or anything similar.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
#21807419 - 06/14/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Take a double dose of piritize or whatever -has helped me for trips.
My hayfever is ruthless too -I feel your pain bro.
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Make sure non-drowsy though -some will fuck you up in ways I wouldn't bother shrooming on.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
#21809030 - 06/15/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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3waesz said: derp how about some hayfever medicine derp?
Oh. Ohohoho. No. I know I sound like a little whiny bitch, but I don't have the kind of hay fever where you go "Achoo, teehee", where you just take a spray and it's gone. So far, I've tried a lot of different medication. All kinds of eye drops, nose sprays and pills. None of it works.
Well, I'm going to try anyway. Should the hay fever become too bad, I'll just sit my ass back inside, I guess.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Satyr604]
#21809044 - 06/15/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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just wait, dude. There will be time.
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I don't use mine much any more because it's not generally as bad as it used to be but you should check out this or similar:
http://www.lloydspharmacy.com/en/lloydspharmacy-allergy-reliever-15677
Surprisingly, it worked for me and many others.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
#21811890 - 06/15/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Psilocybin mushrooms can stimulate mucus production.
evidence? I haven't heard that one.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
#21812420 - 06/15/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Most people who've taken them can attest to that. Watery eyes, running nose are extremely common side effects, and it's quite surprising that you don't know this. This is due to stimulation of the lacrimal gland & it's accessory glands. Neurotransmitters regulate myriad functions in the body, and alterations of their levels will result in more than getting high; their other functions are affected as well. To really break it down I'd need to grab my anatomy & physiology textbook, and go over the notes, and I don't have time for that.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
#21813284 - 06/16/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Most people who've taken them can attest to that. Watery eyes, running nose are extremely common side effects, and it's quite surprising that you don't know this. This is due to stimulation of the lacrimal gland & it's accessory glands. Neurotransmitters regulate myriad functions in the body, and alterations of their levels will result in more than getting high; their other functions are affected as well. To really break it down I'd need to grab my anatomy & physiology textbook, and go over the notes, and I don't have time for that.
Any non hay fever people agree? Personally I've never experienced this "side effect"
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
#21813365 - 06/16/15 03:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Plenty of non hayfever people agree. It's a common side effect that's well documented in the literature.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
#21813445 - 06/16/15 05:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have to say I didn't have those effects in my, admittedly limited, experience. The trips were not during the hay fever season, so I didn't have symptoms. The only time my nose got runny, was when we were just sitting outside the whole time and it was getting cold.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
#21813925 - 06/16/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Plenty of non hayfever people agree. It's a common side effect that's well documented in the literature.
Well it's not well documented, because i've never come across it, and i'm always reading documents. I think you're a hayfever suffer throwing around wild accusations.
Link me up Sniffy
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
#21814590 - 06/16/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushrooms cause yawning, and heavy yawning causes watery eyes, which in turn result in a running nose. Some people are more affected than others. Though I'm not a hayfever sufferer, I'm a heavy yawner on shrooms, and my nose ends up running most of the time.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
#21815607 - 06/16/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Actually it is well documented. Your researching skills blow if you haven't come across it. I remember seeing reports of those side effects when I was barely in high school, and that was long enough ago that internet was a hell of a lot different. Quit being lazy & do your own damn research.
"Throwing out wild accusations" fucking newbs.... You were probably will shitting your diapers when I first joined this community.
OP, it's a side effect & not experienced all the time, nor by everyone. Just happens to be one of the more common ones, along with the yawning as Aldous mentioned.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
#21815639 - 06/16/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Actually it is well documented. Your researching skills blow if you haven't come across it. I remember seeing reports of those side effects when I was barely in high school, and that was long enough ago that internet was a hell of a lot different. Quit being lazy & do your own damn research.
"Throwing out wild accusations" fucking newbs.... You were probably will shitting your diapers when I first joined this community.
OP, it's a side effect & not experienced all the time, nor by everyone. Just happens to be one of the more common ones, along with the yawning as Aldous mentioned.
I've always thought it was just me, but everytime I trip (mainly) on shrooms, in the end of the trip,I get a nasty hay fever and crying eyes.. Interesting!
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Grimley]
#21815731 - 06/16/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, it's definitely not just you. The neurochemistry that is affected by psychedelics is involved in so many different physiological functions, so it's only natural that they are affected as well. As to how this is experienced not only varies from person to person, but also from trip to trip on an individual basis due to myriad other factors. Serotonin is a classic example, vasoconstriction is a common psychedelic side effect. The reason for this is that constricting blood vessels is one of serotonin's jobs in the body. It's one aspect of the body's response to laceration of blood vessels. Serotonin is released locally to constrict the vessels & limit blood loss while other biological functions go to work patching the hole.
:science: the human body is a fascinating thing.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
#21819258 - 06/17/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Yeah, it's definitely not just you. The neurochemistry that is affected by psychedelics is involved in so many different physiological functions, so it's only natural that they are affected as well. As to how this is experienced not only varies from person to person, but also from trip to trip on an individual basis due to myriad other factors. Serotonin is a classic example, vasoconstriction is a common psychedelic side effect. The reason for this is that constricting blood vessels is one of serotonin's jobs in the body. It's one aspect of the body's response to laceration of blood vessels. Serotonin is released locally to constrict the vessels & limit blood loss while other biological functions go to work patching the hole.
:science: the human body is a fascinating thing.
Yea very fascinating indeed... This post made me realize that there's alot more behind hay fever and tripping than I ever thought. There are also other side effects I didn't know were common, like for example ringing sounds in the ears. Reason I thought it was just me, and didn't look it up, is because I've always have had fucked up ear,nose and throat canals and have alot of issues with it.
And maybe there's a solution to those issues of mine now that I came across this...
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Grimley]
#21819867 - 06/17/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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These hay fever suffers...
I experience yawning commonly, and running eyes (tears?), but have yet to run my nose off.
Ps. Noob pointer, I joined this community in 2007 with my first username, and have several hundred trips under my belt.
Maybe if you had better circulation, you'd have less vaso-constriction.
Diet and exercise
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
#21820922 - 06/17/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't get the runny nose bad, but it feels like mucous is 'mulling' around in my sinuses, almost as if it is flowing inside but not actually coming out of my nose. When I get this, it seems to coincide with the mushroom 'slime' feeling, like my whole body is covered in a layer of semi-liquid fuzz if that makes any sense.
[EDIT] I'm also a sufferer of allergies, I find that a daily vitamin, bioflavonoids, and probiotics help. Also avoiding fatty foods, red meat, eggs etc help a lot!
Edited by WindWisperer (06/17/15 09:22 PM)
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
#21822215 - 06/18/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I had several hundred trips under my belt by 2007. The fact is that you're denying a common side effect that's well documented. You obviously haven't researched enough, no matter how many times you've tripped. That's newbish. I presented an example of why it happens...and you deny that due to your own subjective experience. Again, newbish. The fact that your nose hasn't run is beside the point. I said that it's a common side effect...not that everyone experiences it. With the watery eyes you're experiencing the same etiology; stimulated lacrimal glands. It's just not dripping down into nasal sinuses. As to vasoconstriction, that's one you do get....you're just not noticing it. It's not always to a crazy degree, nor is it to a dangerous unless we're talking some RC such as nBOME or an overdose of a DOx. My circulation is fine. I'm healthy. That doesn't change serotonin's purpose in the body. I've studied the human body, and have medical training. This isn't subjective; it's how the body works, period. The way one experiences it is where the subjectivity comes in to play.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
#21822324 - 06/18/15 04:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not sure if I've had a runny nose, but I have found it harder to breathe, definitely some nasal congestion. Tiredness too, with yawning.
Another side effect I had was feeling really weak, particularly while I was walking. Not sure whether other people have experienced that.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: gcs]
#21831162 - 06/20/15 02:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, I was feeling up for it and did it anyway. I have to say, it was my best trip yet. And, strangely enough, even though we were in a field, I had no problems with my allergies at all.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Satyr604]
#21831186 - 06/20/15 03:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Satyr604 said: Well, I was feeling up for it and did it anyway. I have to say, it was my best trip yet. And, strangely enough, even though we were in a field, I had no problems with my allergies at all.
The Mushroom experience has a way of doing the unexpected I've found! I'm glad your experience was positive, and no hayfever!
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It was absolutely great. The dose was just right. I was clear headed enough to think properly while still having awesome visuals. The clouds had a fractal shape, trees were 'layered' like one of those 3D postcards. The patterns when I closed my eyes were amazing. At one point I said "They could've made temples from the insides of my eyelids". There was also a shaman in the field. He had his tent there and was chanting the whole time. We had some food with us: apples, cherry tomatoes and dried banana's. Eating while tripping is so out of this world..
On the come down we went hiking around town, no idea where we were or where we were going.
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