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Mushroom trips and hayfever
    #21806282 - 06/14/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hi all. I'm planning on tripping sometimes soon. The only problem is: it's hayfever top season. I feel like I've been cutting onions and snorting ground pepper. As you can probably imagine, the feeling really sucks. I hope it doesn't bum me during the trip.

However, some people report they didn't have any symptoms at all while tripping. Seems odd to me, but I'd just thought I'd ask.. Does anyone have any experience with this?


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Satyr604]
    #21807391 - 06/14/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

derp how about some hayfever medicine derp?


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Satyr604]
    #21807418 - 06/14/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Psilocybin mushrooms can stimulate mucus production. Would not want to dose while experiencing hayfever or anything similar.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
    #21807419 - 06/14/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Take a double dose of piritize or whatever -has helped me for trips.

My hayfever is ruthless too -I feel your pain bro.
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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: teenagehippie]
    #21807420 - 06/14/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Make sure non-drowsy though -some will fuck you up in ways I wouldn't bother shrooming on.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
    #21809030 - 06/15/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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derp how about some hayfever medicine derp?




Oh. Ohohoho. No. I know I sound like a little whiny bitch, but I don't have the kind of hay fever where you go "Achoo, teehee", where you just take a spray and it's gone. So far, I've tried a lot of different medication. All kinds of eye drops, nose sprays and pills. None of it works.

Well, I'm going to try anyway. Should the hay fever become too bad, I'll just sit my ass back inside, I guess.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Satyr604]
    #21809044 - 06/15/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

just wait, dude. There will be time.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: dixienormous]
    #21809540 - 06/15/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't use mine much any more because it's not generally as bad as it used to be but you should check out this or similar:

http://www.lloydspharmacy.com/en/lloydspharmacy-allergy-reliever-15677

Surprisingly, it worked for me and many others.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21811890 - 06/15/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Psilocybin mushrooms can stimulate mucus production.




evidence? I haven't heard that one.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
    #21812420 - 06/15/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Most people who've taken them can attest to that. Watery eyes, running nose are extremely common side effects, and it's quite surprising that you don't know this. This is due to stimulation of the lacrimal gland & it's accessory glands. Neurotransmitters regulate myriad functions in the body, and alterations of their levels will result in more than getting high; their other functions are affected as well. To really break it down I'd need to grab my anatomy & physiology textbook, and go over the notes, and I don't have time for that.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21813284 - 06/16/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Most people who've taken them can attest to that. Watery eyes, running nose are extremely common side effects, and it's quite surprising that you don't know this. This is due to stimulation of the lacrimal gland & it's accessory glands. Neurotransmitters regulate myriad functions in the body, and alterations of their levels will result in more than getting high; their other functions are affected as well. To really break it down I'd need to grab my anatomy & physiology textbook, and go over the notes, and I don't have time for that.




Any non hay fever people agree? Personally I've never experienced this "side effect"


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
    #21813365 - 06/16/15 03:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Plenty of non hayfever people agree. It's a common side effect that's well documented in the literature.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21813445 - 06/16/15 05:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have to say I didn't have those effects in my, admittedly limited, experience. The trips were not during the hay fever season, so I didn't have symptoms. The only time my nose got runny, was when we were just sitting outside the whole time and it was getting cold.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21813925 - 06/16/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Plenty of non hayfever people agree. It's a common side effect that's well documented in the literature.




Well it's not well documented, because i've never come across it, and i'm always reading documents. I think you're a hayfever suffer throwing around wild accusations.

Link me up Sniffy


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
    #21814590 - 06/16/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Mushrooms cause yawning, and heavy yawning causes watery eyes, which in turn result in a running nose. Some people are more affected than others. Though I'm not a hayfever sufferer, I'm a heavy yawner on shrooms, and my nose ends up running most of the time.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: 3waesz]
    #21815607 - 06/16/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Actually it is well documented. Your researching skills blow if you haven't come across it. I remember seeing reports of those side effects when I was barely in high school, and that was long enough ago that internet was a hell of a lot different. Quit being lazy & do your own damn research.

"Throwing out wild accusations" :lol: fucking newbs.... You were probably will shitting your diapers when I first joined this community.

OP, it's a side effect & not experienced all the time, nor by everyone. Just happens to be one of the more common ones, along with the yawning as Aldous mentioned.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21815639 - 06/16/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Actually it is well documented. Your researching skills blow if you haven't come across it. I remember seeing reports of those side effects when I was barely in high school, and that was long enough ago that internet was a hell of a lot different. Quit being lazy & do your own damn research.

"Throwing out wild accusations" :lol: fucking newbs.... You were probably will shitting your diapers when I first joined this community.

OP, it's a side effect & not experienced all the time, nor by everyone. Just happens to be one of the more common ones, along with the yawning as Aldous mentioned.




I've always thought it was just me, but everytime I trip (mainly) on shrooms, in the end of the trip,I get a nasty hay fever and crying eyes.. Interesting!


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Grimley]
    #21815731 - 06/16/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, it's definitely  not just you. The neurochemistry that is affected by psychedelics is involved in so many different physiological functions, so it's only natural that they are affected as well. As to how this is experienced not only varies from person to person, but also from trip to trip on an individual basis due to myriad other factors. Serotonin is a classic example, vasoconstriction is a common psychedelic side effect. The reason for this is that constricting blood vessels is one of serotonin's jobs in the body. It's one aspect of the body's response to laceration of blood vessels. Serotonin is released locally to constrict the vessels & limit blood loss while other biological functions go to work patching the hole.

:science: the human body is a fascinating thing.


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21819258 - 06/17/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, it's definitely  not just you. The neurochemistry that is affected by psychedelics is involved in so many different physiological functions, so it's only natural that they are affected as well. As to how this is experienced not only varies from person to person, but also from trip to trip on an individual basis due to myriad other factors. Serotonin is a classic example, vasoconstriction is a common psychedelic side effect. The reason for this is that constricting blood vessels is one of serotonin's jobs in the body. It's one aspect of the body's response to laceration of blood vessels. Serotonin is released locally to constrict the vessels & limit blood loss while other biological functions go to work patching the hole.

:science: the human body is a fascinating thing.




Yea very fascinating  indeed...  This post made me realize that there's alot more behind hay fever and tripping than I ever thought. There are also other side effects I didn't know were common, like for example ringing sounds in the ears. Reason I thought it was just me, and didn't look it up, is because I've always have had fucked up ear,nose and throat canals and have alot of issues with it.

And maybe there's a solution to those issues of mine now that I came across this...


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Re: Mushroom trips and hayfever [Re: Grimley]
    #21819867 - 06/17/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:laugh: These hay fever suffers...

I experience yawning commonly, and running eyes (tears?), but have yet to run my nose off.

Ps. Noob pointer, I joined this community in 2007 with my first username, and have several hundred trips under my belt.

Maybe if you had better circulation, you'd have less vaso-constriction.

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