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Shamanic Scientist
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My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome *DELETED*
#21805453 - 06/14/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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rudeboi
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looks really good. When the top is fully colonized give it a day or two and then introduce fruiting conditions.
I wouldn't give it to much FAE, the sub will dry out quicker and the RH will be hard to maintain.
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Re: My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome [Re: rudeboi]
#21805485 - 06/14/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What do you mean by too much FAE? In theory, my windows will allow for close to zero water vapor to escape. Maybe I should leave one of the large windows covered?
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maddchef
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We don't know because we don't build tubs with Windows. If it works for you great, write up a tek but we can't really help you with an untested design.
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Re: My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome [Re: maddchef]
#21806103 - 06/14/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why did you make such big "windows"? Filter holes usually only need to be an inch or two wide at most.
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LocN9ne
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Re: My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome [Re: Myconin]
#21806469 - 06/14/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you used a casing layer then that bad boy is well beyond ready to fruit.
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Shamanic Scientist
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Re: My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome [Re: LocN9ne]
#21807237 - 06/14/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey LocN9ne,
Why do you say so? I am very eager to move to fruiting, but most of what I read says to what until 100% colonization (which I assume means clear mycelial growth over entire top surface) plus a couple days. Would fruiting now vs. waiting a couple more days likely change my total yield, or how evenly pins appear?
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Re: My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome [Re: Myconin]
#21807247 - 06/14/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Myconin,
I did things this way for two reasons. First, I have this fabric readily available to me for cheap. Since it's both hydrophobic and breathable, I figured it would be great. Second, having large windows makes my monotub modular in the sense that I can cover it up full or partially from the outside; if I want FAE to occur with the outside over a smaller surface area, I can simply cover up a portion of one or both windows.
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misiu007
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In my opinion, best time to introduce fruiting conditions, is once you see the mycelium poking through the top surface of the casing layer. If you have more casing, you can patch up the mycelium spots right before introducing light and FAE to ensure even pinset. You should do it immediately.
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Myconin
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Quote:
Shamanic Scientist said: Myconin,
I did things this way for two reasons. First, I have this fabric readily available to me for cheap. Since it's both hydrophobic and breathable, I figured it would be great. Second, having large windows makes my monotub modular in the sense that I can cover it up full or partially from the outside; if I want FAE to occur with the outside over a smaller surface area, I can simply cover up a portion of one or both windows.
Makes sense to me I was just curious.
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Re: My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome [Re: misiu007]
#21810140 - 06/15/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was not able to add any more casing, so I moved to fruiting conditions last night. The monotub is at ~25 degrees celsius, I have an air filter in the closet on low all day, and a 6000K LED on a 12/12 hour light/dark cycle. I can add a couple pictures of my set up within 2-3 days for people to critique.
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your going to be fine bro. just let it do its thing. don't want to keep messing with it just gives the bacteria in the air to get a chance at that beautiful mycelium. looks like your on the right track. cant wait to see pics of this bad boy once fruited
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Re: My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome [Re: Shroom Kitty]
#21810194 - 06/15/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, I'm just anxious. I was a little concerned this morning since the humidity in my monotub was 73%, measured on the upper portion inside the tub. I lightly misted with ~1% H2O2 in water. I should just let it sit now. My understanding is that the fruiting process will take a few days, yes?
A couple points of confusion for me looking ahead are:
- What is the actual technique for harvesting mature fruits? Do people generally pull them out of the substrate, or cut them at the base, or what? - What is the process for getting multiple flushes? Do you just let it sit under fruiting conditions after each harvest? Is it necessary to mix up the substrate at all after first harvest?
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Quote:
Shamanic Scientist said: Myconin,
I did things this way for two reasons. First, I have this fabric readily available to me for cheap. Since it's both hydrophobic and breathable, I figured it would be great. Second, having large windows makes my monotub modular in the sense that I can cover it up full or partially from the outside; if I want FAE to occur with the outside over a smaller surface area, I can simply cover up a portion of one or both windows.
When providing FAE you want the whole sub to get FAE, not just part of it.
Like others have stated, it's hard to give advice on an untested, unknown design.
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Re: My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
#21810565 - 06/15/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It seems that many growers like to cut the shroomies at the sub level with a knife or scissors. For me, I still lightly twist a shroomie and gently pull, which tends to do very little to no damage to the mycelium surface. Clusters are little harder to harvest, I cut those as low as I can.
As far as flushed go, I wait until most shroomies are ready to harvest, so if one or two grow prematurely, I pick those off, fan dry them and wait for the flush to grow. At that point, I harvest all mushrooms, and do a decent spray down of the substrate, keeping it all in fruiting conditions. This allows me to run the dehydrator for a couple of days, and then shut it off until next harvest. You don't want to mix sub after each flush.
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Re: My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome [Re: misiu007]
#21810608 - 06/15/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Great, thanks misiu! In terms of misting, is this normally done with pure water, or is it advisable to use a dilute H2O2 solution for misting mycelium? My understanding is that at my current stage contamination is pretty unlikely, but it's something I'm always paranoid about.
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Mdahmer
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you said you used a casing but im not sure if your using the word right. did you mix coir and verm with your spawn then wait until it was 100% colonized then add a casing layer on top and what we see now has grown through?
or is what you showed in the picture the extent of how colonized it is? if so I would give it a little more time before giving it fruiting conditions
and just mist with regular tap water you don't have to use anything special for that part
Edited by Mdahmer (06/15/15 12:38 PM)
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Re: My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome [Re: Mdahmer]
#21810670 - 06/15/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I mixed my spawn with coir/verm and then added a thin layer of coir/verm on top of that when I started. The picture is where that was at after one week.
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Mdahmer
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oh alright. some people call that a pseudo casing I think or some such but actually casing is when you wait for it to fully colonize then add a layer and let that layer colonize to about 30% or so and fruit. your adding a layer on top to help provide a close, humid micro climate for pins to form.
but when you add the layer right after mixing your spawn I don't know that it really does the same thing it just kinda gets colonized with everything else. I would wait until the whole thing is colonized solid before fruiting.
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Re: My first monotub - close fruiting - input welcome [Re: Mdahmer]
#21811336 - 06/15/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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