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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: How familiar are you with DMT?
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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Re: dreams impact on reality [Re: Sun King]
#21877442 - 06/30/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm on a tablet, it will not connect me to whatever video you posted, however if you could post the actual url or tell me the title of the video so I could go to youtube on find it independently, it would be very much appreciated.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHwE71WVhQg
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Re: dreams impact on reality [Re: Sun King]
#21881709 - 07/01/15 05:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you, sorry for any invconvience, damned traveling lifestyle limits me to mobile devices...
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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I was asking how personally familiar this particular person was, not the entire thread.
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It had to do with matters regarding spiritual veiws and how DMT can alter them radically, had this person tried DMT and failed, it would be no use for me to go into detail about its potential, had this person never tried DMT, I could have explained everything its capable of doing for the inner space explorer.
Had this lucid dreamer not tried DMT, I couldn't ask my follow up question...which involvolves lucid dreaming about smoking DMT
.. And one of the things that I learned about DMT, was that, if you ever had it, even just once, then you can have a dream. And in this dream somebody will pull out a little glass pipe, and then it will happen. It will happen just like the real thing. Because theres a button somewhere inside each and every one of us that gives you a look into the other side. And that's the button that resets the compass that tells you where you want to sail. Good luck!
I have had DMT dreams, but have never been able to lucid dream, I wanted to know if lucid dreamers who had smoked DMT can replicate the experiance during a lucid dream....endogenous DMT means scientifically this IS possible (though even in the DMT community the idea recieves criticism)
-E. Borodin
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....I though it would have been obvious that I was asking lessismore specifically.
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lessismore
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Does it matter if I know DMT, or ever tried DMT?
Shouldn't I be able to understand my dreams without ever taking DMT?
You can lucid dream all your life without ever taking dmt, have out of body experiences every night and then come back into your body in the morning
Without lucid dreams I might be a much different person, not sure to what difference though, but I've always been disturbed my whole life in my dreams by various creatures / many nightmares / and many out of body experiences - flying around on the roof tops of where I lived in all places I lived
It's pleasant 50% of the time, and 50% of the time you wake up in sweat gasping for air almost , very unpleasant
Luckily you can learn to accept your fear fully, if you chose to learn from your dreams, then you get better both at dreaming and a bit better in this reality too
Dreams often show your conscious state in this reality
If you are very conscious here, you are very conscious in your dreams usually (then you got LDs every night or so)
Lots of fear here, lots of fear in your dreams
They're often linked it seems, dreams are often the psyche's way to heal itself it looks like, make you look at your fear in new ways
The mind can do it all natural, so taking a chemical to get there I would prefer not to do too often, and DMT is so short lasting, 5mins I would rather have a lucid dream that lasts i.e. 3 hours but feels like a full day
Your dreams say a lot about your awareness to some extent it seems , at least with people I know, many got lucid dreams/very vivid dreams/even see dead people in their dreams etc.
You seem a bit focused on DMT like it is the best thing in the world and all, it's a bit too much for me, I don't really want to prove anything I just want to have interesting dreams, and that is possible without DMT, many ways to get there
- shamanic journeying with drums - lucid dreams - out of body experiences (even more aware in lucid dreams)
There are no limits in ones dreams, you can teleport, fly, go visit anyone you know or people who have passed away too, you can create stuff in front of you with your mind, it feels more real than this reality
That's why I like it, but as with anything there's gotta be a balance, we cannot seek into our dream space like that before we feel fully content in this reality
Else it can actually damage us, damaging self introspection, you view a portion of your psyche you were not ready for, and now that damages your mind permanently - can be severe
I try to take big precautions there since I once had a very bad sleep paralysis, I know how bad it can be if you don't get fully back from your inner space, you don't even know People around you may know, you don't know it yourself, you just lose your soul
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Re: dreams impact on reality [Re: lessismore]
#21882226 - 07/01/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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www.ld4all.nl www.dreamviews.com
I've been using these sites/found them again once in a while the past 10-15 years, my bro is also into lucid dreaming
Why smoke DMT when lucid dreaming is better than sex and more rewarding too?
I believe those that have lucid dreams are ment to, their awareness is ready for it from a past life or such
But you can certainly improve it, get better at it, I went from 0-5 a year to 5 a month when practicing WILD+dreamjournal+binaural beats
I bet lucid dreamers would have a few things in common, just like trippers often have a few things in common - they have opened their mind from a past life it seems, and something else I can't just quite put words to
It's no coincidence that people lucid dream, and some don't. It is certain people who chose to lucid dream usually it seems, at least those I've met, often people interested in their mind
Then the good question is also, why do people trip?, I bet many have tripped because they felt something lacking in themselves, searching for something unconsciously
To those that seek, the tool to open their mind is there
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Re: dreams impact on reality [Re: lessismore]
#21884126 - 07/01/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now about this lucid dreaming stuff... I haven't really experienced it, but I know the dreams I do have are often random nonsense which I can not depict a meaning behind or even try to due to lack of memory or point.
For those who lucid dream and claim its potential, do you ever remember your dreams that aren't lucid and am able to find meaning in them? Or that higher level of conciseness?
I guess my point it some of you seem to down view some of the potential effects entheogens can have because of big numbers of improper use. They can cause delusions and other nonsense BUT as my friend Coincidentiaoppositorum points out and I am sure many others on this site would back up the HUGE potential for positive effects if done PROPERLY. Coincidentiaoppositorum seems to advocate them so strongly because he uses them properly to reach there full potential. JUST as some of you guys have done with dreaming!
I feel that maybe dreams have a lot in common with improper entheogen use (aimless, random, distorted, etc.). Just as maybe lucid dreaming can have a lot in common with proper shamanic entheogen use (Powerful spiritual growth, refined meaning to life, etc.)
But hey, I haven't lucid dreamed before so this is just my interpretation from yalls posts.
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Re: dreams impact on reality [Re: enjoi-more]
#21884197 - 07/01/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not everyone is a shaman, not everyone is born responsible (you speak about shamanic/sacred space use)
It takes a lot of responsibility to use a drug wisely. It takes a lot of responsibility to spiritually recommend drugs to people (you must be a teacher of truth and be grounded to do that)
Not everyone is a teacher
How can we know who is a teacher online? - can we trust random advice from strangers on which drugs are good/bad for us, when they don't even know us personally?
I got both normal dreams and lucid dreams, but mostly lucid dreams The only times I get normal dreams really is when I lower my frequency it seems, stress,pills,drugs,alcohol
Any pill will give me weird random dreams
Lucid dreams are not random, I wake up where I went to bed - or think I'm awake Then strange stuff happens, people break into my house while I'm awake, and I run into my garden and fly away over high tree tops Or I face the intruders rarely (my fear)
My fear can take any form, black shadow beings coming down on me, demons chasing me in the air, black insects coming down through portals in the ceiling, black ravens, dogs with sharp teeth, ufos, people who want to shoot me (cops breaking into my house and shooting me)
Anything may happen, I've gotten shot at least a dozen times in my dreams I think, it actually hurts a lot
And then you wake up when you die - or realize you're dreaming, then you're free to fly
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Re: dreams impact on reality [Re: lessismore]
#21884253 - 07/01/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can much rather recommend: crystals meditation in nature cycling long prayer service to others
Crystals can raise our frequency too, if you believe in it
You are your actions, so with your actions you decide your frequency. Good actions towards others leads to a high frequency. No service to others and you got a low frequency.
You could say he/she who does nothing for others has forgotten his/hers god
The way is in the heart, you cannot magically take a chemical to gain truth
Truth comes only to those that are ready, and it is usually a lifelong journey for learning truth, you learn a bit at a time, always striving to improve yourself
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Re: dreams impact on reality [Re: lessismore]
#21888614 - 07/02/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It does not matter if you have used DMT, I was simply curious because of mckennas statements, which I argree with, I have had dreams in which a DMT experianced occored, just like in real life, and it was not recollections of past experiances it was a genuine new DMT experiance.
Now, I was curious if a lucid dreamer could lucid dream up a DMT filled pipe, take a large toke, and blast off. This is why I asked if you were familiar with DMT.
With other drugs in my dreams they don't work, sometimes mescaline works in my dreams, but its nothing like a DMT dream, I Aldo suffer from sleep paralysis, and generally when I'm paralyzed if I cant pull out of it I have to.experiance something identicle to DMT. When I die in my dreams I experiance a DMT flash ad well.
Before my first DMT experiance these things did not happen to me in dreams, or if it ever did I could never remember it. I think endogenous DMT plays a role.
Everything I said is heavily criticized in the DMT community, but I cant deny my experiances. (It seems that only 45% of DMT smokers experiance DMT dreams, so many are quick to dismiss the phenomena because it has never happened to them. Though there is no evidence that endogenous DMT plays a role in dreaming, I think DMT users can somehow access endogenous DMT while in REM sleep, so when you take the hit of DMT in your dreams you simultaneously obtain a flush of endogenous DMT.(I'm awarevthis is all speculation, this is definantly what feels like is happening, the DMT trip is new, not a composite of past experiances, its identicle to smoked DMT in real life...
If you have not tried DMT, I recomend that if the oppertunity should arise, take it! I'm not saying go out of your way looking for it, but if it ever comes around and you are offered, think twice before you pass it up. I feel this compound is the ultimate in inner space exploration, the most astonishing, beautiful, transformitive, transcendent, experiance that ive ever had, though at the same time it was disorienting, and ive never felt fear like I felt in the depths of a DMT experiance, true terror, but its necessary, this stuff is REAL, which means its not a cartoon daydream, your confronted with some very serious issues, your confronted with your own death, its called "vine of the dead" because it allows you to pass through the door which the dead pass daily....some interpret it as other dimentions, or other planets, but I'm convinced its death, and if one applies occams razor to the situation death is logically where you go during a peak DMT experiance....
Ive always wanted to meet a lucid dreamer, and ask them to pteform this conjuring up of the loaded DMT pipe in their lucid dream, but the lucid dreamer would have had to have had a DMT breakthrough at least once prior....
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I wish I could lucid dream....
How can you make yourself aware that your dreaming? Even when I'm flying or breathing under water I still don't realize I'm in a dream....sometimes I even sit there and tell people "look I can do the impossible" as I Hoover above them before I take off flying I to the sky, same with breathing under water, I just think that ive somehow gained this ability, I'm never aware that I'm dreaming.
I have had lucid dreams, but they are rare, and I cant induce them at will...
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I think you can take DMT and gain truth, keep in mind that DMT is an endogenous neurotransmitter, its naturally produced in every human body, and its reasonable to assume that everytime you have a natural spiritual or mystical experiance that its a fault of endogenous dimethyltryptamine, so I think the fact that I obtain my DMT from a plant and not from my body's inner reserves should not make a difference. DMT and psilocin produce genuine mystical experiances, the "good Friday experiment" confirms this.
DMT should not be seen as a drug or just some chemical, its the link between the spiritual world and this world, and it exists in all of us.
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Practicing religion or being spiritual without entheogens is faith based.
Humans have Bern using entheogens to access the spiritual dimention for the majority of human history, as a result of the seperstion of entheogens and religion, all religions have become a faith based exegesis of the DMT experiance. (The shittah tree that the ark of the convenant was made fromwas a DMT containing acacia and peganum harmala was sacred to the Hebrews, early Hebrew art work on ancient church walls depicts the tree of knowledge as a mushroom as well.
Soma was obviously psiolycybe fungi, there's a line a the gita where Vishnu gives Arjuna "divine eyes" and Arjuna has a peak psilocin (or DMT) experiance....now what are divine eyes? psilocin dislated eyes.... Whatever you wish to see can be seen all at once in this body. This universal form can show you all that you now desire, as well as whatever you may desire in the future. Everything is here completely. Chapter 11, Verse 8
But you cannot see Me with your present eyes. Therefore I give to you divine eyes by which you can behold My mystic opulence. Chapter 11, Verse 9
Sa�jaya said: O King, speaking thus, the Supreme, the Lord of all mystic power, the Personality of Godhead, displayed His universal form to Arjuna. Chapter 11, Verse 10-11
Arjuna saw in that universal form unlimited mouths and unlimited eyes. It was all wondrous. The form was decorated with divine, dazzling ornaments and arrayed in many garbs. He was garlanded gloriously, and there were many scents smeared over His body. All was magnificent, all-expanding, unlimited. This was seen by Arjuna. Chapter 11, Verse 12
If hundreds of thousands of suns rose up at once into the sky, they might resemble the effulgence of the Supreme Person in that universal form. Chapter 11, Verse 13
At that time Arjuna could see in the universal form of the Lord the unlimited expansions of the universe situated in one place although divided into many, many thousands. Chapter 11, Verse 14
Then, bewildered and astonished, his hair standing on end, Arjuna began to pray with folded hands, offering obeisances to the Supreme Lord. Chapter 11, Verse 15
Arjuna said: My dear Lord Ka, I see assembled together in Your body all the demigods and various other living entities. I see Brahmā sitting on the lotus flower as well as Lord Śiva and many sages and divine serpents. Chapter 11, Verse 16
O Lord of the universe, I see in Your universal body many, many forms-bellies, mouths, eyes-expanded without limit. There is no end, there is no beginning, and there is no middle to all this. Chapter 11, Verse 17
Your form, adorned with various crowns, clubs and discs, is difficult to see because of its glaring effulgence, which is fiery and immeasurable like the sun. Chapter 11, Verse 18
You are the supreme primal objective; You are the best in all the universes; You are inexhaustible, and You are the oldest; You are the maintainer of religion, the eternal Personality of Godhead. Chapter 11, Verse 19
You are the origin without beginning, middle or end. You have numberless arms, and the sun and moon are among Your great unlimited eyes. By Your own radiance You are heating this entire universe. Chapter 11, Verse 20
Although You are one, You are spread throughout the sky and the planets and all space between. O great one, as I behold this terrible form, I see that all the planetary systems are perplexed. Chapter 11, Verse 21
All the demigods are surrendering and entering into You. They are very much afraid, and with folded hands they are singing the Vedic hymns. Chapter 11, Verse 22
The different manifestations of Lord Śiva, the Ādityas, the Vasus, the Sādhyas, the Viśvadevas, the two Aśvins, the Māruts, the forefathers and the Gandharvas,the Yakas, Asuras, and all perfected demigods are beholding You in wonder. Chapter 11, Verse 23
O mighty-armed one, all the planets with their demigods are disturbed at seeing Your many faces, eyes, arms, bellies and legs and Your terrible teeth, and as they are disturbed, so am I. Chapter 11, Verse 24
O all-pervading Viu, I can no longer maintain my equilibrium. Seeing Your radiant colors fill the skies and beholding Your eyes and mouths, I am afraid. Chapter 11, Verse 25
O Lord of lords, O refuge of the worlds, please be gracious to me. I cannot keep my balance seeing thus Your blazing deathlike faces and awful teeth. In all directions I am bewildered.
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Every religion seems to be the exegesis of the psychedelic experiance.
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: I wish I could lucid dream....
How can you make yourself aware that your dreaming? Even when I'm flying or breathing under water I still don't realize I'm in a dream....sometimes I even sit there and tell people "look I can do the impossible" as I Hoover above them before I take off flying I to the sky, same with breathing under water, I just think that ive somehow gained this ability, I'm never aware that I'm dreaming.
I have had lucid dreams, but they are rare, and I cant induce them at will...
-E. Borodin
Drugs hinder our attempts to lucid dream, I've been lucid dreaming all my life, as soon as I started with weed/psychedelics my lucid dreams became much more rare.
When I don't put anything into my body I lucid dream much better, recall dreams much easier
Here's my list: fast for 1-5 days in a row, makes you closer to spirit - really recommend it together with eating healthy up to , vegetables,nuts,oatmeal etc. exercise regularly , I like cycling 20km just before bed, makes body relaxed = more dream recall WILD / WB2B methods practiced weekly let all thoughts go when you fall to sleep , you cannot WANT to lucid dream
Most important: practice weekly then you will see improvements quickly remember dream journal every morning, gives 10x clearer dreams and makes you more likely to LD
avoid stress,pills,drugs
Worst stuff for lucid dreaming: daily weed use, kills all dreams - no dreams eating unhealthy, gives intense dreams , unpleasant dreams overeating pills of any kind
When you can lucid dream most nights with practice , then psychedelics/DMT become pretty useless because they have side effects usually. Then they are usually viewed as a drug with a price to pay. You can read more about WILD/WB2B at www.ld4all.nl and www.dreamviews.com, both work great for me, success 60% of the time or so, or next day.
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Mmmmmmm-e-la-to-nin  For me it induces vivid, surreal dreams where I am aware of all that is happening and am able to remember my dreams clearly.
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Re: dreams impact on reality [Re: sudly]
#21889451 - 07/02/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I get the same effect as Melatonin is supposed to do, without taking the drug.
I go to bed in day hours to dream, preferably near a sunny window. Sleep in daytime
That's where the real vivid dreams come, it seems sun can have an effect on your dreaming. The more you are out in the sun in the day, the more relaxed, the better your lucid dreaming.
Sleeping in the daytime , in daylight can help you awake in the dream it seems
Worked several times for me, my most memorable OBEs have been this way
(this is also the whole principle of WB2B, a change in Melatonin without taking Melatonin!. Go to sleep in the day / sunny hours at random times during the day)
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