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Predatory Vampirism
    #21803650 - 06/13/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There are a lot of LHP systems out there who practice this. Aside from the shenanigans of the typical psychic vampire who uses relatively simple techniques in there practice, is there anyone who've taken this to a more advanced level?


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: aciddrop]
    #21805182 - 06/14/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Rajneesh aka "Osho"
Ama aka "The Hugging Lady"
The founder of TM(tm) whatever his name was

They (along with numerous others) fed/feed on the hope, desire, admiration, attention etc of their followers without ever bestowing an ounce of spiritual development.


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: yeah]
    #21805410 - 06/14/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Amma seems genuine to me :smile:


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: deff]
    #21805826 - 06/14/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've heard she manipulates peoples emotions to get reactions out of them. Someone I know, I think it was his mom, had Amma whisper the name of her dead mother in her ear when she hugged her. Made her nope the hell out of there.


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: yeah]
    #21807307 - 06/14/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Popular fiction depicts vampirism as an occult phenomenon to correspond with psychic abilities like shape shifting and mind control.

The "Underworld" movies star Scott Speedman. Pronounced S'got Speed, Man. It's got speed, man/dude.

one googled website on bloodstream adrenaline.

source 2 - adrenaline in bloodstream

I've encountered studying biology adrenaline exists during stressful situations in the human bloodstream. If legal regionally, a frog licker non vegetarian may be curious about the kinds of animals that produce  a naturally occurring emotionally cold speed.

As a metabolic, adrenaline inhibits nervous system intoxication on alternate drugs. Unless self control manifests after peak achieved.

If psychic abilities do not exist, urban legend vampirism may be rooted in placebo occult fascination and lack of moral concern stemming from that humans began as animals. Morals may have evolved recently.


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: tobaccotaster]
    #21807483 - 06/14/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The Bible on... vampirism?

Genesis 9:4 But you must not eat meat with its life (that is, its blood) in it.

Exodus 4:9 And if they do not believe even these two signs or listen to you, then take some water from the Nile and pour it out on the dry ground. The water you take out of the Nile will become blood on the dry ground.

If the wine is the blood of Christ, the military incited to exist by the Book may be required to "transubstantiate" - to literally transform water into blood, or to gain the adrenaline by route of the nervous system choice.

So as to avoid redundancy, if interested in the fictional side of vampirism, hot links to my two posts on the game Vampire: the Masquerade - the most thorough esoteric horror fiction guide I've encountered on fake vampirism:

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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: tobaccotaster]
    #21807644 - 06/14/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The vampire archetype can be seen as ones' shadow self. With that being said, there are a lot of systems out there who base their foundations on the vampire archetype in their practices. I was more or less asking if anyone has embraced this archetype in their practices and have taken it beyond the simplistic forms of energy draining/manipulation that most people are familiar with.

I've taken this way beyond what most are capable of and I'm simply curious if anyone out there has done the same.


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: aciddrop] * 1
    #21808656 - 06/14/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What are most people capable of and what are you capable of?


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: yeah] * 1
    #21808724 - 06/14/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was just reading these the other day
http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37424

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=24197

interesting kinda, but out-there for a non-occultist type :sip: reads like a bunch of neckbeard no lifers trolling

Some of these guys say they can feed off people with imagined tentacles (yup, think tentacle porn) and it's possible to gain undesirable traits if they're not picky. Seems noob level but I'm no authority...

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What are most people capable of and what are you capable of?






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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: aciddrop] * 1
    #21808826 - 06/14/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm very susceptible to being a victim in a case like this.  A lot of people do it as a natural course of action.  Why do you want to do this?


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: Jufin]
    #21813535 - 06/16/15 06:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

For the most part it is a bunch of idiots trolling. The online occult community sucks imo but there are some decent books out there that cover this subject on a deeper level.


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: aciddrop]
    #21815788 - 06/16/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What do you class as vampirism? Blood drinkers or those "psychic" vamps? I think psychic vampirism isn't anytging new and is easy to do, if you know how to absorb in a sense people's energy weather the negative or the positive. Blood drinkers to me are more just fetishist with a thing for blood.

Psychic vampirism to me also is just knowing how to mentally drain people and have then left in a fatigued state, I thing this wouldnt even be classed as vampirism though just more a way of domineering over pther who aren't as well versed in psychic protection. I for one have took people energy from them by over burdening them with more information then they can handle, making them unable to clearly think and be severely fatigued. Non of this bs absorbing energy through touch, just taking in there wisdom only to overflow them with more wisdom to Which they find hard to comprehend.

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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: newageshaman]
    #21815815 - 06/16/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I also hate Michelle Belanger the self proclaimed psy vamp, she acts as though her way of draining is something special only few can do. Not the case IMO, leeching energy from people is easy and at times rewarding if you don't like the person, but also IMO drains you of your own psychic energy reserves, sort of like a amphetamines addiction where after prolonged use your natural dopamine production is weekend and can stay like that for awhile.

I don't really leech of people pay energy anymore, it ends up leaving you hollow IMO and you become less liked by persons for it even if they don't know what you are doing. But in saying that we all take and give psy energy on a daily basis and it's all about learning to control giving as much energy as what you take, no one wants to be solely dependent on another's energy reserves to get through the day


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: newageshaman] * 1
    #21815831 - 06/16/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also energy doesn't solely have to be absorbed from people, food and drink aswell as plants can suffice a psychic energy reserve and sustain us. Simply put draining people of there psy is fun but hurtful to them, so doing more to absorb energy from non-human forces is preferred IMO. I'd rather be sustained through plants and drink then humans/other living beings.


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: newageshaman]
    #21816240 - 06/16/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Simply put draining people of there psy is fun but hurtful to them, so doing more to absorb energy from non-human forces is preferred IMO. I'd rather be sustained through plants and drink then humans.




Congrats on stepping back from the precipice of sociopathy.  Your new age path seems to be doing wonders for your psy, but not your spelling.
Do some of you seriously do this for "fun"  or "practice"? What the fuck?  Excuse my close minded ignorance, but go eat a bag of bananas.


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: aciddrop]
    #21816940 - 06/16/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You clearly have no originality or power of your own so you want to take it from others.  No sympathy from me, you only exist to make me try harder.


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: dee_N_ae]
    #21817130 - 06/16/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Simply put draining people of there psy is fun but hurtful to them, so doing more to absorb energy from non-human forces is preferred IMO. I'd rather be sustained through plants and drink then humans.




Congrats on stepping back from the precipice of sociopathy.  Your new age path seems to be doing wonders for your psy, but not your spelling.
Do some of you seriously do this for "fun"  or "practice"? What the fuck?  Excuse my close minded ignorance, but go eat a bag of bananas.



Like I said I was on my phone and autocorrect is a bastard, though I hardly think it's sociopathic to drain people mentally (eg psychically). I mean seriously have you never had a friend who just seemed to take more out of you then others leaving you fatigued, most of the time they don't do it knowingly and it's just something that seems to happen around them. I messed around with it more so when I was following various ego driven LHP systems like laveyan satanism and M. Fords luciferianism, an yeah it was fun to play around like a pseudo-antichrist.

Nowadays I am more compassionate after realising just how uncompassionate the human race is becoming, now as far as psychic leeching as I prefer to call it goes I tend more towards eating healthier as well as living healthier and not intentionally draining others. Though as I said in an earlier post we all give and take psychic energy on a daily basis, it more about for me atleast giving as much energy as what you take when it comes to living beings. A bad aura surrounds those who just continually take without any give and I know myself atleast have been trying to put more of a neutral stance as it's better to be in the middle IMO then to take one or another side (white light paths and left hand paths). After all we are both good and bad, righteous and benevolent it's just about choosing the right attitude for the right circumstance.


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: newageshaman]
    #21838393 - 06/21/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Left Hand Path could take the ego complex as the source of strength even if heart used as the source of control. Meaning Ego Approach stabilizes the ego complex rather than transcending it,
as fascinated by intellectual and artistic diversity and skepticism.

My read is that Right Hand Path transcends pride, Left Hand Path takes strength in ego.

Then, in lack of trauma / negative conditioning, and glitches like a tendency to intellectually project familiar = sure because of unconditional security.

As to energy vampirism, situational relevancy may require any skill in accord with one's own loyalties. Neutral? Agreed.

Burden of proof on trust? If new to any society, unimportant unless interested in general loyalty. How well or poorly integrated the kinds of Left Hand Path networks mentioned are with long term political selfish MO to network with may be as unique as the kinds of websites that recruit... Or just a bunch of secret handshakes rehashed to instill confidence.


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: tobaccotaster]
    #21904551 - 07/06/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to *yeah...

What are most people capable of? If psychic abilities in no way exist, heightened adrenaline would falsify the impression of supernatural strength or speed.


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Re: Predatory Vampirism [Re: aciddrop]
    #21907242 - 07/06/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm going to take back my previous posts here and say given the opportunity, most people will take power in a situation.  It's the way humans are and the reason why we are successful as a species.  I certainly will.
 
I believe this sort of information is encoded into us as humans, and by wanting a certain outcome in a situation, the necessary actions will be enacted.  I need to get more consistent with manipulating others when I deem the cause to be beneficial for me. 

For example, there is someone who can control me in a situation, and this situation I am far more capable and skilled.  Sometimes I take the initiative and do what is best, because I know that this is my strength.  However, sometimes I am lazy and let the control slip, and where we end up is a shitty place due to their low ability level.  So my goal is to consistently control this situation because I know what is best.


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