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Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD?
    #21802724 - 06/13/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've been on acid just three times and tripped properly just once during these experiences,i.e, my first time.I could not describe anything and make any deductions or conclusions to the first one as I remember only part of it.For the 2nd and 3rd times, I took 250-280 micro-grams much more than the previous time and didn't trip properly.I just saw patterns everywhere in my room and some colors;that's all and its been a very boring night.These blotters were good as everybody else who took it passed a wonderful time except for me and now I don't know what my problem is.Moreover,I have an intense teeth grinding and some physical pains during the 6-9 hours after taking the acid.I sincerely hope that someone could help me deal with that problem.


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: dd147ify1]
    #21802747 - 06/13/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Are you on anti depressants or serraquil?


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: DigitalTorture]
    #21802748 - 06/13/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No,nothing of that sort.


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: dd147ify1]
    #21802783 - 06/13/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Teeth grinding is common.  Magnesium helps.  You may also have some TMJ or Bruxism you're not aware of that's being aggravated by the acid.

It may also not be acid.  nBOMEs give great visuals and very little else.  Without a test kit it's hard to be sure.

Aside from that, what are you expecting?  What do you think a proper trip is like?  It sounds like on your first trip your pre-frontal cortex let go a bit.  Is this what you mean by a proper trip?  Losing yourself and not thinking so much?  If so set and setting play a very large role in that.  If you're not feeling safe it's generally hard to relax.


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #21802827 - 06/13/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm 100% sure that this is acid as a friend of mine got it tested....And concerning what I'm expecting, its an out of body experience.No I'm not thinking of losing myself as I want to understand what I'm seeing.I think a proper trip is another state of consciousness, but on acid it just doesn't work on me.


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #21802833 - 06/13/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And thanks for making me aware of the magnesium,I've been looking for a solution to this problem for a while.


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: dd147ify1]
    #21802842 - 06/13/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

did the blotter have a taste?

not saying ur dum or nuthin cuz ur friend said he got it tested but maybe he was lyin idk

i can't imagine having strong visuals and zero head trip from L


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21802850 - 06/13/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No the blotter was completely tasteless


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: dd147ify1]
    #21802860 - 06/13/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thats weird idk what 2 say,

sux

i'd be sad if acid stopped doing its magic


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21802866 - 06/13/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know what's happening to me but I'm just tired of it now and decided to look for solutions in order to solve this problem.


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21802874 - 06/13/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
i can't imagine having strong visuals and zero head trip from L




Me too.

Maybe OP's expectations restricts & ruins the trip?


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: jodidonino]
    #21802887 - 06/13/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21802919 - 06/13/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:lmafo:


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: dd147ify1] * 2
    #21802960 - 06/13/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have taken upwards of 400 mcg and 100 mcg, and had stronger trips on less.  It took me a long time to figure acid out.  It still surprises me sometimes, but I have found that any kind of stupid hippie spiritual stuff is, in fact, quite useful.  I'm not talking about listening to the grateful dead. 

Set and setting is fucking HUGE with LSD, much moreso than other substances as far as "getting there."  I think set and setting is always important with psychedelics, but in the case of say, mushrooms, it's more about avoiding a bad experience.  With acid, it's very easy to have underwhelming experiences if you  just sit there waiting for something to happen. 

I had a pretty wild trip recently after acquiring a copy of BE HERE NOW. 
http://www.amazon.com/Be-Here-Now-Ram-Dass/dp/0517543052
Written, incidentally, by Tim Leary's partner in crime back in the acid heydays.  Pretty easy to read while you're tripping, since it's more of a graphic-based "zine."  Flipping through the pages tripping is like reading an oracle.  I'm fairly certain he produced it for this specific effect.  Good pictures, good ideas, but if you have a problem with spiritual talk then it might be objectionable.  At the very least, it can open your mind up to a lot of eastern ideas about spirituality, which center more around consciousness.  It's like 8 fucking dollars on amazon right now, total steal and everyone is always impressed by it if it's out on your coffee table. 

Playing around with any kind of spiritual techniques or meditation can REALLY set your trip off, regardless of whether it's "real" or not, your tripping-mind will believe it.  I had some crazy experiences after watching this SUPER CHEESY "journey through the chakras" thing, which I could never bear to watch sober, but every time I watch it coming up my trips are fucking wild. 

Natural environments are great too.  I've found that moving a lot (like hiking) tends to bring it down a little bit, but once you find a spot to camp out for the afternoon, it's pretty great.  Sunset is a good time to be peaking/plateau, because the colors are fucking gorgeous. 

Teeth grinding and physical pain (otherwise known as body load) could be a good indicator that something is blocked in your body-mind-spirit equation.  Try doing some light and easy yoga poses.  You can have a lot of emotional content and other stuff stored in your muscles, I get it in my jaw and in my hips.  Yoga tends to open release a lot of that stuff and the "energy" of LSD can be expressed in my consciousness more easily, as opposed to being expressed as BODILY TENSION.  Pay attention to that shit.  Seriously, you can ignore the rest of the spiritual stuff if you want, but this is a physiological thing.  Your mind takes things and puts them in weird places. 

Look up sun salutation, otherwise known as "Surya namaskar A."  Youtube video or just print out a sheet and follow it.  It's a short routine and probably the most basic classical yoga.  You usually repeat it a few times but it's so common that there are probably thousands of youtube videos or audio files that can guide you through it.  If you have specific pain in certain areas and you already know where that manifests, look up some "yin yoga" poses that may be able to address those problem areas.  Those are longer-held poses that stretch fascia connective tissue and do some pretty serious opening. 

But yeah, basically you gotta work on opening yourself up.  Don't drink the night before, don't get stoned that day, clear your mind a little, set good intentions, and definitely the yoga or any kind of stretching, maybe even tai chi.  I find LSD to be a really energetically based thing, and if you tap into that it's where the substance really takes off.  Shrooms, by contrast, are more sedative and dreamy, and they'll take you on a ride regardless.  I would also say NOT to expect any particular state, because you're not gonna fucking know what it is until you're there.  LSD does not really *reliably* produce out of body experiences.  Even ego-death is hard for me to get to on doses of less than 400mcg.


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21802969 - 06/13/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Because you mentioned teeth grinding, I initially thought you must have been resisting the effects to prevent the surfacing of traumatic unconcious material. But, people who resist usually only get a strong uncomfortable body load and little visuals. So your observations of patterns contradicts this... I'm not sure what the problem is. I am also a bit puzzled as to why you expect an out of body experience? Acid doesn't do that. It's not a dissociative...


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21802981 - 06/13/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hah, good post Quartzy, you said everything I wanted to say and a lot more :thumbup:


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: Quartzy]
    #21802993 - 06/13/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks Quartzy and I'm definitely gonna buy that book and practice some yoga.

I think I got the answer to my problem.


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21803002 - 06/13/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I initially thought you must have been resisting the effects to prevent the surfacing of traumatic unconcious material. But, people who resist usually only get a strong uncomfortable body load and little visuals.




That sounds like pretty much what OP is experiencing.  I don't think seeing some patterns runs counter to this theory.  If OP is not having much mental cerebral "trippy" stuff, it's because something is not being allowed to surface.  Nobody has such a clear mind that no material is going to surface. As I said above, a somatic (body) approach is a good way to bypass the conscious mind and release some of that tension.

I've only had mind blowing visuals a few times on LSD, the best example being a marathon sex session when I was very newly in love on very strong blotter.

Also @ OP -- sometimes blotters aren't as strong as they are claimed to be.  I wouldn't double your dose, but if it's the very same blotters you took last time, try 400mcg. and yoga.


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: dd147ify1]
    #21803007 - 06/13/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Everybody is different. Every brain is different. Your reaction to LSD could be unique to you.


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Re: Why do I have difficulties to trip properly with LSD? [Re: Quartzy]
    #21803016 - 06/13/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes for sure, and a friend already has the book, I'm gonna start practicing 2morrow itself.


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