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tryptkaloids
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self sustaining nutrient system
#21798850 - 06/12/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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do you guys think you could spawn mycelium onto cannabis leftovers (I.E. leaf and stem) then once you fruit it and once you exhaust the mycelium then use it as a soil additive to compliment your next grow?
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Re: self sustaining nutrient system [Re: tryptkaloids]
#21799380 - 06/12/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't see why not. Oysters will grow on it for sure. And mushroom compost is some good stuff.
But if you're thinking that the shrooms will soak up some THC...not gonna happen.
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no that's not what i was hoping for. i was just looking to use every part of the buffalo. thanks!
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Re: self sustaining nutrient system [Re: tryptkaloids]
#21821171 - 06/17/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You would want to compost your spent mushroom substrates, toss them in with old rootballs and kitchen scraps and give em a few months to break down. You will still need to add nutrients back to the soil such as chicken or cow manure to bump up the nitrogen as both plants use it. If you're not familiar with composting there are tons of resources.
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Re: self sustaining nutrient system [Re: Gr0wer]
#21823032 - 06/18/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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DANKE!
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Re: self sustaining nutrient system [Re: tryptkaloids]
#21880824 - 06/30/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm totally about to try this with lions mane, colonize some wbs and try spawning to parts of a grow that were going to be thrown out (stem, fan leaf) should I pasteurize or add anything to the leaf?
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Re: self sustaining nutrient system [Re: tryptkaloids]
#21913004 - 07/08/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pasteurize and if i was you i would add gypsum to help supplement Ca and S. They are secondary nutrients in flora but fungi prefer more
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Re: self sustaining nutrient system [Re: Toadstool5]
#21914217 - 07/08/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you are my new best friend. I inoculated my first ever jars yesterday morning i used pf tek done right with 1/4 pint jars, I saw he got almost twice the yield and the first thing I bought was gypsum but it wasn't until now that I knew why so thanks for that. I'm going to wait until I start fruiting them b/c I just left them in my sealed glove box. but once I get it back I am going to take some blasted trim and replace it with the vermiculite in the pf tek put it in some 1/2 pints and nok those bitches up. hopefully my lion's mane culture is still good. It'll work with cubes too! http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15626982
How long before I see growth do you think? I have no clue how much I put in each jar because the numbers were covered with the label so I may have over indulged or vice versa. I only used 2 of the 4 holes on my 1/4 pints.
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Re: self sustaining nutrient system [Re: tryptkaloids]
#21916924 - 07/08/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just being a shroomerite 
I always learn awesome stuff from the veterans so i return the favor. To be honest i got the idea of adding gypsum to pf-cakes from RR.
If you used a culture probably 1 to 5 days before you see radial growth, spores 3 to 21 days. Sometimes hericium can be hard to spot so a magniflying glass helps a lot.
If it works with hericium it should work with cubensis, those guys are not picky about substrate at all.
Cannabis isnt a hard-wood so without lignin it wouldnt work with wood loving species but you can simply substitute sawdust for the verm and allow at least 2 to 4 weeks for consolidation instead of 1 week.
Hericium will still work really well with the trimmings. Its almost like a mini-straw grow
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Re: self sustaining nutrient system [Re: Toadstool5]
#21918132 - 07/09/15 05:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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first off.
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Just being a shroomerite 
I always learn awesome stuff from the veterans so i return the favor. To be honest i got the idea of adding gypsum to pf-cakes from RR.
much love. second
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If you used a culture probably 1 to 5 days before you see radial growth, spores 3 to 21 days
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Sometimes hericium can be hard to spot so a magniflying glass helps a lot.
I made one tall half pint hericium from regular brf/verm and a lc 72ish hours ago but i'm veiwing it through a translucent bin (my sealed glovebox) havn't taken extra close look at it.
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If it works with hericium it should work with cubensis, those guys are not picky about substrate at all.
Idk yet if it works with hericium. I know it works for cubes! I love that emoticon!
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Cannabis isnt a hard-wood so without lignin it wouldnt work with wood loving species but you can simply substitute sawdust for the verm and allow at least 2 to 4 weeks for consolidation instead of 1 week.
Hericium will still work really well with the trimmings. Its almost like a mini-straw grow 
i'm confused. I thought hericium was a woodlover... it is a primary decomposer as cubes are secondary? correct?
have a good day!
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Re: self sustaining nutrient system [Re: tryptkaloids]
#21919099 - 07/09/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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https://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Fungiculture#Niche
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Primary Decomposers
Niche Primary decomposing fungi under cultivation include both wood-decay fungi, such as shitake (Lentinula edodes), oyster mushroom (Pleurotus spp.), and maitake (Grifola frondosa), and litter-decomposing fungi, such as winecap (Stropharia rugosoannulata). The wood-decay fungi are divided, in turn, into two groups: brown-rot, which degrade cellulose and hemicellulose, and white-rot, which degrade lignin, as well as cellulose and hemicellulose. The white-rot fungi, in particular, play a crucial role in the global carbon cycle, by virtue of their ability to decompose large, complex lignin molecules, which constitute the most recalcitrant form of carbon found in plant material. Biodegradation of lignin is not thoroughly understood, but some of the more well-researched metabolic pathways involve the lignolytic enzymes manganese peroxidase, lignin peroxidase, and cellobiose dehydrogenase (Hattaka 1994). It is the activity of these fungi that releases the nutrients and energy stored in the structural elements of plants, which get their strength and rigidity from an abundance of lignin, into a form usable by other organisms. Most of the wood-decaying fungi under cultivation are white-rot fungi, including the above-mentioned L. edodes, Pleurotus spp, and G. frondosa. Mushroom growers exploit the ability of fungi to digest substances that many organisms cannot, by pairing mushroom crops with semi-selective substrates that are nutritionally inaccessible to potential competitors (Stamets 2000). Physical environment Substrates for the production of these mushrooms generally consist of dried, shredded, plant material, with very low nitrogen content. The C:N ratio in the wastes preferred by L. edodes and P. ostreatus range from 350:1 to 500:1, though the N content of these substrates is frequently supplemented with mineral fertilizer or high-N materials, such as rice bran (Chang & Miles, 2004). The most common material used for the production of wood-decaying fungi is sawdust, but techniques for growing nominally wood-decaying fungi on grasses are well-established for some mushroom crops. The shredding or pulverizing of the substrate material facilitates the ramification of the fungal mycelium throughout the substrate. This is significant for mushroom producers for several reasons. The speed of colonization, together with other factors, controls the time necessary to produce a crop, and the amount of substrate accessed by the mycelium controls the yield per unit. A fine, granular substrate structure, which permits faster and easier ramification, consolidation, and breakdown, by fungal mycelia, will produce higher yields, sooner, than bulkier substrates.
Its a primary brown-rotting species. Loves oak bark and wood that is less dense. It will work great but remember its a very CO2 intolerant species.
Be patient it can take some time for it to start
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