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Offlinebluegill
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Bringing back bad memories?
    #21798717 - 06/12/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have some bad childhood memories. They haven't come up during any of my trips, even the 'bad' ones. My GF wants to try shrooms. Her only concern is that it will trigger a flashback. She had some pretty horrible things happen to her, as in sexual abuse. I have seen her have a flashback and she has a hard time breathing when it happens. On the other hand, she has been pretty much open with me about this, except disclosing details obviously. Anybody that can relate to this, please share your experience and knowledge. I think it's all about set and setting. She will probably do them anyway, I just need to be prepared in case she goes to a dark place.

She does smoke pot and she can get a little paranoid with that, according to her. She also (I think she was BSing) said she took a high dose of benadryl before. I think she is BSing because that is extremely intense and that would have triggered more negative emotions than shrooms ever could. I know she used to be addicted to oxycontin or something, but that's a little different.


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Re: Bringing back bad memories? [Re: bluegill]
    #21798807 - 06/12/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can never predict what mushies do to the brain. Scientists say that the psylocybin binds with the atp in your body and makes your brain do funky things. I've never had bad flashbacks during a trip and neither have any of my buddies, not even on the bad trips. We are all usually concentrated on how hard we are tripping and don't even think about memories. It wouldnt hurt to try once, she should probably do a lower dose for her first time.

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I've had bad memories come back on LSD but never on mush. I'm usually too damn happy for life on mushrooms.


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Re: Bringing back bad memories? [Re: Charleskun]
    #21799025 - 06/12/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's a possibility that she will have to deal with her past during a mushroom trip

Whether that is good or bad possibly is up to her mental state (set)

Having someone there is a good idea... Perhaps her first trip, you can stay sober and be there if she needs help...

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Re: Bringing back bad memories? [Re: HarryL]
    #21799134 - 06/12/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would recommend a sitter, ore you stay sober and guide her threw her trip
My wife and I always fight off bad emotions of past trama everytime we shroom


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Re: Bringing back bad memories? [Re: HarryL]
    #21799138 - 06/12/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I trip with a few physically & sexually abused people. As a grower/guide I always start with a low dose.

Be open, receptive and as graceful as possible in receiving any sharing. Don't try to steer the conversation or examine. often people say things on low doses just for themselves to hear like something is speaking through them.

try a walk. stop to smell the flowers. lay in the grass. it's the little things. 'you know how it's supposed to be'


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Re: Bringing back bad memories? [Re: filthyknees]
    #21800639 - 06/13/15 03:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The effects of psychedelics aren't necessarily unpredictable, so much as peoples' reactions to the effects are unpredictable. There really is an interesting consistency to the effects.

What this really boils down to is her expectations, however. If she expects for her memories of these events to be at the forefront, then they absolutely will be. I don't know her or her experiences, but it is definitely true that if you are able to confront your issues without losing yourself to anxiety and fear while you're under the influence of psychedelics, it can be an extremely beneficial experience, even if it isn't necessarily fun or pleasant.


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Re: Bringing back bad memories? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #21801162 - 06/13/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bad memories are like math equations in your mind that want to be worked out. With regard to tripping, that might be good or bad depending on what you want. Here's my advice for not getting bogged down in bad memories.

I recently dealt with the death of my father. It wasn't the end of the world, but it definitely fucked with my head. Now, the next time I trip I don't want to spend half of it grieving over my dad and digging up stuff that's perfectly good where it is ...left the past.

Part of getting through grief is to really think things through. Think about them again. Think about it so much that there are no new stones to be overturned. No new revelations. You think, and overthink it so much that your mind puts a thick coating of insulation around the bad memory and it stays out of the way.

I plan to do this in the hours leading up to my next trip. I'll concentrate on my dad's memory, I'll think it all through as best I can. Then, when I'm tripping and I think of my dad, it won't be a big equation waiting to be solved. Instead it will all be freshly sorted out and my mind will say - nothing new to see here, move on. My resolved thoughts will be in control, not the memories that got me there.

I think the biggest danger of all for people tripping (and not tripping) is old memories that are suppressed and not sorted out. When you're down they can flood back in and take control. My approache is like the saying "know thy enemy" or "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't".


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Re: Bringing back bad memories? [Re: Universe]
    #21801191 - 06/13/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

great advice there I think ^^^


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If you're in a hurry, might have to find out slow
That it's one thing to try and another to fly
You get there quicker just a step at a time
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Re: Bringing back bad memories? [Re: filthyknees]
    #21807164 - 06/14/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I spent several trips reviewing/contemplating pretty much my entire past. It was not fun, but things need to be resolved before one can move forward, and this was a preparation for experiences far beyond what most people ever experience in a lifetime... and that is only the beginning.


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