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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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OfflineHayoxp
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Sometimes we are tools..
    #21798089 - 06/12/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)





tools of lsd or lsd of us, it truly is the body that makes the magic.. no heart beat and your mouth can dissolve  all the drugs in the world, wont do shit.


So here comes the question.. is it the body or the mind that unlocks us?


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Re: Sometimes we are tools.. [Re: Hayoxp]
    #21798389 - 06/12/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

mind.


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Re: Sometimes we are tools.. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21798405 - 06/12/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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SirShroomsAlott said:
mind.




I mean that's only if our minds transcend to an actual spiritual level.. or it could be the increased heart pulse+ chemical difference resulting in us being high thinking it's spiritual.


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Re: Sometimes we are tools.. [Re: Hayoxp]
    #21798435 - 06/12/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Depends what we're talking about "I mean that's only if our minds transcend to an actual spiritual level"-if you mean this as something like a soul, then it still depends on what you define as your soul, is it your personality and who you are as a person? If so then it would be our body, I don't believe if there is a soul or something akin to it that it in any way reflects who we are, since we know for a fact we can go into peoples brains and fuck with sections that can alter them dramatically as a person or what they're even capable of. Which would mean it's just chemical difference making us think it's spiritual.

If a soul has no ego and isn't disconnected from everything else the way we are, then I would say the mind. But really we'll never know in our lifetimes or possibly anyone's lifetime, so it's really all just speculation.

I would go with mind though just because of my own personal beliefs.

It would also have to be proven for us to know whether there is a spiritual realm or something like it in order to answer definitively. It's basically dependent on whether there really is something more then this reality IMO anyway.


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Re: Sometimes we are tools.. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21798526 - 06/12/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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SirShroomsAlott said:
Depends what we're talking about "I mean that's only if our minds transcend to an actual spiritual level"-if you mean this as something like a soul, then it still depends on what you define as your soul, is it your personality and who you are as a person? If so then it would be our body, I don't believe if there is a soul or something akin to it that it in any way reflects who we are, since we know for a fact we can go into peoples brains and fuck with sections that can alter them dramatically as a person or what they're even capable of. Which would mean it's just chemical difference making us think it's spiritual.

If a soul has no ego and isn't disconnected from everything else the way we are, then I would say the mind. But really we'll never know in our lifetimes or possibly anyone's lifetime, so it's really all just speculation.

I would go with mind though just because of my own personal beliefs.

It would also have to be proven for us to know whether there is a spiritual realm or something like it in order to answer definitively. It's basically dependent on whether there really is something more then this reality IMO anyway.




Hmm, sounds  infinite. I think personality is your soul, so when you are unlocked and are experiencing it run through you then your soulsays "hi".

The thing is, if we die what if our next life will be with us knowing that we lived our past life.. so you know who you used to be but you're born so mentally handicapped that you're not able to open minds of millions. No one would simply believe you, unless Stephen hawking is just smart enough to not reveal his knowledge of his past lives.. I mean he had to pay with something in this life. Now he wants to have a normal life the next life.. so he's acting like a genius hoping to be born as a healthy child,,,


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Re: Sometimes we are tools.. [Re: Hayoxp]
    #21798657 - 06/12/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Shutup Andy.


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Re: Sometimes we are tools.. [Re: Hayoxp]
    #21798666 - 06/12/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Hayoxp said:
Quote:

SirShroomsAlott said:
Depends what we're talking about "I mean that's only if our minds transcend to an actual spiritual level"-if you mean this as something like a soul, then it still depends on what you define as your soul, is it your personality and who you are as a person? If so then it would be our body, I don't believe if there is a soul or something akin to it that it in any way reflects who we are, since we know for a fact we can go into peoples brains and fuck with sections that can alter them dramatically as a person or what they're even capable of. Which would mean it's just chemical difference making us think it's spiritual.

If a soul has no ego and isn't disconnected from everything else the way we are, then I would say the mind. But really we'll never know in our lifetimes or possibly anyone's lifetime, so it's really all just speculation.

I would go with mind though just because of my own personal beliefs.

It would also have to be proven for us to know whether there is a spiritual realm or something like it in order to answer definitively. It's basically dependent on whether there really is something more then this reality IMO anyway.




Hmm, sounds  infinite. I think personality is your soul, so when you are unlocked and are experiencing it run through you then your soulsays "hi".

The thing is, if we die what if our next life will be with us knowing that we lived our past life.. so you know who you used to be but you're born so mentally handicapped that you're not able to open minds of millions. No one would simply believe you, unless Stephen hawking is just smart enough to not reveal his knowledge of his past lives.. I mean he had to pay with something in this life. Now he wants to have a normal life the next life.. so he's acting like a genius hoping to be born as a healthy child,,,




When would the cycle of remembering your past life start? Wouldn't that make your soul eternal, and if so how come we have no memories before birth of even existing.


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