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    #21796822 - 06/12/15 10:36 AM (9 years, 20 days ago)

Is a wash always necessary?  This is the result after a freeze. It would be a shame to ruin such pretty snowflakes.  There is also less savory stuff stuck to the bottom of the jars where a few drops of crap got in. Like pinpoint size.  First timer. 

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Re: DMT Question [Re: Leondegrance]
    #21797157 - 06/12/15 11:58 AM (9 years, 20 days ago)

A wash is always needed. Your snowflakes will not be ruined, they will be cleaned.


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Re: DMT Question [Re: Supachopped719] * 1
    #21797173 - 06/12/15 12:03 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

Dude, a wash is not "always needed". Those crystals look just fine and they are bright white. I'm sure they will vaporize very well and have a desired effect.

I have intentionally precipitated yellow crystal and brown goo, both work very well and were never washed. Only wash the crystals if you want to clean up the product, but the crystal will still work just fine without the wash.

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Re: DMT Question [Re: daytripper05]
    #21797578 - 06/12/15 01:30 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

What daytripper said, your good to go with them


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Re: DMT Question [Re: sbc1]
    #21797593 - 06/12/15 01:36 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

Nicely done!  :thumbup:


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Re: DMT Question [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21797639 - 06/12/15 01:46 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

Ok, thank you for the response everyone.  Cheers!

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Re: DMT Question [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21797651 - 06/12/15 01:49 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

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A wash is always needed. Your snowflakes will not be ruined, they will be cleaned.




A wash is only needed if your crystals are dirty (aka not pure white).

OP, those crystals are VERY smokable and im coming over your house right now to test them out... :lol:

Just playin, vaporize those beauties!


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Re: DMT Question [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21797808 - 06/12/15 02:26 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

OP, if you have a dab rig try a low temp dab with the crystal. Dab rig is the only way I roll when it comes to consuming freebase DMT crystal.

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Re: DMT Question [Re: daytripper05]
    #21798091 - 06/12/15 03:33 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

I do not yet.  I'll have to order online.  The local shop is horribly overpriced on everything.  I mean $10 for a 4 inch oiler.  I was waiting until I was actually successful.  It is indeed on my to do list.  :cool:

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Re: DMT Question [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21798347 - 06/12/15 04:27 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

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A wash is always needed. Your snowflakes will not be ruined, they will be cleaned.




:thumbup:


Some bad info in this thread. Sure a wash isn't "needed" but microscopic bits of the solutions come thru even with the brightest snowflakes, thats a fact. If you're okay with smoking potentially harmful compounds then light it up but cmon man you probably used drain cleaner and paint thinner for your extraction. Hyperspace will still be there in the time it takes to wash/re-x

People who re-x all their product realize how much really gets cleaned up, i don't think many do. Pretty snowflakes turn into prettier xtals


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Re: DMT Question [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21798408 - 06/12/15 04:37 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

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A wash is always needed. Your snowflakes will not be ruined, they will be cleaned.




:thumbup:


Some bad info in this thread. Sure a wash isn't "needed" but microscopic bits of the solutions come thru even with the brightest snowflakes, thats a fact. If you're okay with smoking potentially harmful compounds then light it up but cmon man you probably used drain cleaner and paint thinner for your extraction. Hyperspace will still be there in the time it takes to wash/re-x

People who re-x all their product realize how much really gets cleaned up, i don't think many do. Pretty snowflakes turn into prettier xtals




THANK YOU!!! Finally someone responsible comes through. This is all about harm reduction, if a newbie asks if you should clean, then you tell him 'HELL YEA!'

If you guys are sharing your dirty crystals with people than you are very very irresponsible, unless you tell your friends.

'Hey bro, I just made some drugs! But I didn't follow the recipe, I left out the last part where I was supposed to clean my product to make sure there was nothing harmful in it. Still wanna smoke it?'

A wash takes less than a day, you guys don't have an extra day until you absolutely have to blastoff?


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Re: DMT Question [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21799233 - 06/12/15 07:38 PM (9 years, 19 days ago)

Where are you getting your facts? Can you give any link to support your claim that microscopic particles of the alkaline solution always precipitate with the crystals unless they are washed?

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Re: DMT Question [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21799385 - 06/12/15 08:02 PM (9 years, 19 days ago)

i have to admit that those crystals are beautiful.

As for if washing is absolutely necessary. I would say the psychedelic jury is still out on that one.

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Re: DMT Question [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21800414 - 06/13/15 01:12 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

Don't listen to these who are saying you have to clean your crystals,  have you heard of jimjam, goo, wax, yellow dmt, there just various types of dmt and lots of people prefer them types to clean crystals because they give you a slightly different experience and all it is are the different alkoloids and various fats and oils that are still left, stop spreading miss info, if you want proper answers go over to the nexus and look up the wiki and you'll find out everything you need to no


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Re: DMT Question [Re: sbc1]
    #21800415 - 06/13/15 01:12 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)



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Re: DMT Question [Re: sbc1]
    #21800823 - 06/13/15 05:13 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

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have you heard of jimjam, goo, wax, yellow dmt, there just various types of dmt and lots of people prefer them types to clean crystals




People that 'prefer' any of this over pure re-x'd xtal either never went the extra step in the process or they've never been able to acquire anything of that purity on the street. You obviously don't re-x you're own product b/c anyone who does realizes the safety of trying to have as clean of a product as possible when most people are doing A/B with drainer cleaner and paint thinner. Ever thought of the possibility of side reactions due to impurities in non-lab grade solvents?

This extraction process ideally should be done in a lab, under a fume hood, following lab protocol. Pulling it out of the lab into a kitchen is the first corner we cut. How many corners are you willing to cut? Some seem to have a lot of edges

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Re: DMT Question [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21800873 - 06/13/15 05:54 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

First of all I would never buy it in the street and I suggest no one should, if you want dmt you extract it yourself especially as it's so easy to do with the information what's out there, you don't need to re-ex when you can do a mini a/b, but you don't need to do either if your careful,  if you want pure dmt then that's up to you but wheather it's jimjam, goo, yellow or orange it dosent matter it'll still be the same experience only with added alkaloids, fats, oils

It's the same with every drug wheather it be cocaine, cannabis ect your always gonna get unwanted alkaloids fats and oils but people are not bothered and it's never done any harm to them,  I suppose you've never drunk alcohol or smoked tobacco or drank tea or coffee or eat junk food


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Re: DMT Question [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21801241 - 06/13/15 09:05 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

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People that 'prefer' any of this over pure re-x'd xtal either never went the extra step in the process or they've never been able to acquire anything of that purity on the street. You obviously don't re-x you're own product b/c anyone who does realizes the safety of trying to have as clean of a product as possible when most people are doing A/B with drainer cleaner and paint thinner. Ever thought of the possibility of side reactions due to impurities in non-lab grade solvents?




This doesn't make any sense at all. I have washed my crystal to yield over 2% of bright white crystals. I smoked it side by side with brown goo, yellow goo, and yellow oily crystal. I tried them all. At times, I prefer the oily stuff to the pure white crystal for the same reason some people choose Indica buds over Sativa (or vice versa). Each extraction has a different spectrum of alkaloids. The only real downside to the oil and "dirty" spice is the taste is more like plastic/rubber.

But lets say I were to wash my already clean crystal... I would be using the same naptha as I did for the initial pulls. So any impurities as a result of using non-lab grade solvents would still persists in the wash as they do in the pulls...because you know, I used the same naptha. I could use hexane to do a wash, but that changes the spectrum of the extraction. It's even more selective to DMT and would wash out some of the other alkaloids, but again by the same logic, impurities from the solvent would still remain no matter what.

And the drain cleaner is irrelevant because NaOH is a polar solvent and will not be soluble in non-polar solvents.

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Re: DMT Question [Re: daytripper05]
    #21801290 - 06/13/15 09:19 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

And the drain cleaner is irrelevant because NaOH is a polar solvent and will not be soluble in non-polar solvents.




Exactly, as me and daytripper have said each to there own but you don't have to wash your already white dmt it's not necessary unless you pull some base as your pulling your solvent


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Re: DMT Question [Re: sbc1]
    #21801310 - 06/13/15 09:24 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

One technique I use to ensure there is no sediment in the bottom of my naptha is after I pull my naptha 5 times into a collection beaker, I use my glass baster and pipettes to suck the liquid back out of this beaker and back into a clean beaker. I never pour. This ensures any sediment sinks to the bottom or sticks to the sides of the glass of the first beaker. Only takes 5 minutes or less and ensures there is no residual lye or plant material in my naptha. At this point my naptha looks like cloudy yellow piss. The current batch of bark I have is high in alkaloids but it's also really high in fat and oils too. All of which is cleaned out during the mini a/b.

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