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stareatclouds
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: fearnoevil]
#21803399 - 06/13/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feel like the terminology isn't as confusing as you're making it out to be. The layering/frosting/patching is really the only issue with semantics/terminology that I've come across.
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spacechildo
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some simple solutions here, simply mix or layer your bulk sub and find out what you like the best (oh and remember that "no older than" box when you UTSE), dont try to make sense out of newbies comments on what's what on the shroomery and never trust anyone with half their posts in OTD
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I notice novices all the time have wrong terminology. Something such as sanitize and sterilize are confused often. I think everyone should really start this hobby by reading The Mushroom Cultivator.
I remember 10 years ago unfortunately my first reading on the subject was the magic mushroom growers guide.
 I wish I could go back and slap and direct myself to the nearest used book store.
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: RyeJar]
#21804455 - 06/14/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lol, yep know what you mean.
SAC, not trying to make it more confusing, in fact just looking for a little clarity. But maybe you've already forgotten what it was like when you were a noob, but I still remember. I read so much my head was spinning and I couldn't keep techs straight, kept mixing 2 or more together, lol, and it often was the vocabulary, kept misunderstanding the advice peeps were giving me. Yeah, good times... ;?D
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: fearnoevil]
#21805120 - 06/14/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe stare used the on-site glossary or did research into every term he heard.
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fearnoevil
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: Inocuole]
#21807717 - 06/14/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, like the glossary is that easy to find. If you didn't realize it existed, which I didn't, you wouldn't know it, which btw makes no sense. As useful as it is, why isn't there a link at the top of the site or at least on the Getting Started and Cultivation forums so that peeps, especially newbs, can find it? As it is there are less useful links, IMO, such as Arcade, Random, and a Calendar full of birthdays. Not that any need to be replaces, there is plenty of room for a Glossary link
If you do a search for "glossary", no link comes up just a bunch of posts asking if there is a glossary, which in and of itself is proof that it's not readily apparent that there is one. As it is it's sort of buried, cuz I for one never enter the site (after the first time) via the route that would take you to it, just go straight to the forums. Maybe management would consider changing that.
Edited by fearnoevil (06/14/15 07:28 PM)
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: fearnoevil]
#21807762 - 06/14/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh look at that it still is right at the top, right under FAQ, where you would go, if you had a question, that was frequently asked.
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spacechildo
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: fearnoevil]
#21807783 - 06/14/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?terms=shroomery+glossary
not that hard to find 
also if you find the TEks and words confusing you maybe its better to ask for advice rather than giving it?
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: spacechildo]
#21807925 - 06/14/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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fearnoevil
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: fearnoevil]
#21807966 - 06/14/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ahh, that would explain it, cuz I never go to the FAQ's anymore, lol. Well then I guess a newb could find it after all, my mistake 
Btw, I don't need the glossary, just trying to help the newbies - if you actually read my post I never said that I find any of this confusing, except back when I started. But I guess it pays to do a better job UTFSE, ;?D
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spacechildo
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: fearnoevil]
#21807998 - 06/14/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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the FAQ? I just typed that stuff in the search bar at the top.. you just seemed a little confused when you tried to explain stuff and then asked if people remember back to when they were new.
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: spacechildo]
#21808014 - 06/14/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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None of this shit matters yo.
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: spacechildo]
#21808015 - 06/14/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've done frosting layered tubs with great success.. I have done mixed tubs with great success. I saw no difference in the tubs so I just went with mixing it up because it is less time consuming. Although my pool of data isn't much to do on, just 4 frosted tubs.
I don't see how the frosting layer spawn will dry out.. It's not like its a living mass of small creatures that can't transfer water to places. If it is covered with a layer of properly hydrated substrate or casing layer, I don't see how they will dry out.. You know you can mist the tubs too right?
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: MikeBearPig] 1
#21808028 - 06/14/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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They might not dry out but they certainly don't hold water as well and having certain parts of the substrate block not hold water as well as others just seems pointless. Plus like you said it's extra work.
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: Inocuole]
#21808166 - 06/14/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said: None of this shit matters yo.

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fearnoevil
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: Inocuole]
#21808193 - 06/14/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe it won't dry out necessarily, but spawn usually has less H2o than the substrate we add, and since shrooms are 85-90% water, any additional water available should help, especially as it's the top layer. But that's just my line of thinking, and maybe a sufficiently moist casing will do the job, idk.
HEY Eatyualive, great to see you're still around, I've read most of your posts on certain other forums, and learned a lot from your work when I was a newb,
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: fearnoevil]
#21808203 - 06/14/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
fearnoevil said: Maybe it won't dry out necessarily, but spawn usually has less H2o than the substrate we add, and since shrooms are 85-90% water, any additional water available should help, especially as it's the top layer. But that's just my line of thinking, and maybe a sufficiently moist casing will do the job, idk.
HEY Eatyualive, great to see you're still around, I've read most of your posts on certain other forums, and learned a lot from your work when I was a newb, 
Mist the tub.. Maybe I am just used to growing PE?
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stareatclouds
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Re: Layering vs Mixing Substrate [Re: Inocuole]
#21826174 - 06/18/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Maybe stare used the on-site glossary or did research into every term he heard. 
Yep. I referenced the glossary and abbreviations nonstop. I remember CVG gave me trouble, but the others came pretty quick. Sterilization and pasteurization are confused due to external "learning" and not the site, e.g., most people don't know the difference and they're common terms.
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