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Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here)
    #21794438 - 06/11/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

hello guys. I'm  a newer grower with a decent budget to grow. This is what I purchased already

x2 Rye Berry bags (2 pounds each)
x2 B+ Cubensis Spores

This is what I want to buy for my terrarium...

12w LED Grow Light (Red/Blue Spectrum) x2


Humidifier



Still unsure what im going to do for a bulk substrate something that retains moisture better definitely.  Open to any suggestions trying to avoid manure do to odor control.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21794443 - 06/11/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Coco coir


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: oontribe]
    #21794461 - 06/11/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Can i mix the coco coir with vermiculite ? like say 50/50?


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21794472 - 06/11/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

2 quarts of verm to 350g of coco.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: oontribe]
    #21794513 - 06/11/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Why the crazy LED light?  Why not just get a cheap ass 6500k CFL and call it a day?


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Inocuole]
    #21794674 - 06/11/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You're right I could have and it would do fine. I like the colors of the LED and although it looks crazy its only 12 bucks.

I was looking at clear Rubbermaid totes if they would work well for the terrarium enclosure.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Inocuole]
    #21794691 - 06/11/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yea, :whathesaid: just buy a florescent light in 6500k range, long bulb or CFL doesnt matter.

Id lose the humidifyer too unless you are going to build a greenhouse type set up.



Look into these. A "monotub" or a mini monotub. Its a plastic tote, thats it..a couple holes stuffed with polyfill. you mix your substrate in the bottom in a liner.. like you would in a tray. It serves as its own fruiting chamber, no external misting no fanning.

Typically one of my tubs puts up 5-7 ounces on first flush. I say yoi have enough for a tub there, spawn to coir/verm/gypsum is a great starter substrate.

Hpoo doesnt smell the way you wpuld think tho.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: mushpunx]
    #21794704 - 06/11/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey mushpunx thanks for checking out my thread buddy. I'll ditch the humidifier if it's a investment that will just put me back.

I could actually go ahead and get another bag or two. Would I need more syringes? I was initially planning on using half  a syringe per 2 pound bag.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: mushpunx]
    #21794722 - 06/11/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You gotta like, stop thinking about the WEIGHT man and focus on the JOURNEY.

:mindblown:

Chances are with your first grow you're not going to hit a half pound.

2 syringes is enough to inoulate 20 jars. You're good on those.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #21794738 - 06/11/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:lol:

Yea just a couple drops from one of those syringes is plenty to inoculate a bag.

I usually go by quarts not by pounds, does anyone know roughly how many quarts 2lbs translates to?

I would think that 2 of those bags would be enough to spawn a standard tub right?


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: mushpunx]
    #21794760 - 06/11/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

2lbs = 1 quart sir (:

and I'm a novice but logistically thinking i agree. And so many people downing others, i'm gonna try for it as long as I take advice from the masters I can succeed with their handholding no problem. I've already done it with growing cannabis, had lots of great help from other to get me going and was very successful in the start.

Goal stands at half pound. Part Pat needs plenty for his party.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: mushpunx]
    #21794776 - 06/11/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, 2 of those bags should be just right for a standard tub and about 10 lbs of substrate.  I just did exact same ratio with rye berries and it worked out great.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #21794783 - 06/11/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe start with making master jars then you can stretch how much colonized sub you can play with.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21794804 - 06/11/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

First you should read read and read some more.  Then pick a tek and follow it to the letter.  And then buy supplies.

Here's one tek but there are hundreds here:

Bulk Psilocybe Cubensis growing for noobs - Very easy TEK

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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: blazedup]
    #21794805 - 06/11/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure after a few flushes you'll have a half pound with a tub. It's pretty hard not to get that much after a few flushes :smile:


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: ShroominMe]
    #21794842 - 06/11/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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First you should read read and read some more.  Then pick a tek and follow it to the letter.  And then buy supplies.

Here's one tek but there are hundreds here:

Bulk Psilocybe Cubensis growing for noobs - Very easy TEK

Good luck!




That tek is all over the place. I would read through these. Franks tek's aren't my favorite but the guy writes with good organization.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897217#17897217

I would also look up Damien's elementary coir tek.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595

If you can keep clean if you follow that tek for your bulk substrate preparation you might almost get half a pound.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21794863 - 06/11/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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2lbs = 1 quart sir (:

and I'm a novice but logistically thinking i agree. And so many people downing others, i'm gonna try for it as long as I take advice from the masters I can succeed with their handholding no problem. I've already done it with growing cannabis, had lots of great help from other to get me going and was very successful in the start.

Goal stands at half pound. Part Pat needs plenty for his party.




Well, not really enough for a full tub, but certainly enough for mini monos

Prolly not gunna get a half lb from 2 qts of spawn. Maybe a 1/4 lb.

You can start by innoculating what you have with spore, but you are going to need to learn to prep your own grain/ prepare your own jars and bags, and agar work.
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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: mushpunx]
    #21797714 - 06/12/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I really want a large yield from the start. I ordered another 2 bags to get me closer to achieving my end goal.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21797738 - 06/12/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just keep ordering those bags.  Someone's gonna get rich. 

Might not be you, but hey that's business.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Inocuole]
    #21797764 - 06/12/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you can prepare 10 quarts of healthy spawn it should get you a half pound easy if you spawn it to a bulk sub properly.  Your biggest enemy in doing so is lack of experience and lack of proper knowledge and technique.  Read read read and practice practice practice.  Oh and remember.. .practice DOES NOT make perfect.  PERFECT practice makes perfect.  If you start doing crazy experiments on your work before you understand it intimately you are going to fail.  Follow a tried and true tek to the t.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: oontribe]
    #21797784 - 06/12/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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2 quarts of verm to 350g of coco.



How did no one pick up on this?
Especially you inoc. Them cataracts finally taking their toll?:lol:
You're supposed to have 650g brick of coir.

Op strikes me as a "I want pounds of mushies to sell and I don't want to take time learning about them" kind of guy.
A good clone could get 2oz+ per quart of spawn, a noob with ms id be surprised if you got more than .5-.75oz per quart.

I've noticed a 20lb bag of wbs can get me about 30 quarts of grain about 2/3 full.

Someone with the mindset "I want a large yield from the start" is not likely to pursue this hobby.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Buck513]
    #21797810 - 06/12/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I had that same attitude when I started growing weed and people said the same thing and I had a very successful first harvest thanks.

I know that things take practice but just because you have a lot of experiences at something doesn't mean that  a novice can't pull it off in their first try.

"Shoot for the moon and if you dont make it their you will land somewhere upon  the stars"

in other words

try for a pound and if that doesnt happen get  a half pound. You always gotta raise your standards.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21797830 - 06/12/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ohhh. You're just a bad motherfucker ain't you?

Words are only that, just words. I can say I routinely get 10 wall to wall flushes from 5qt spawn, but that doesn't make it true does it?

Any dipshit can grow weed, but only skilled growers can grow really dank bud with a large harvest.
Just like any dipshit can grow cubes, but only skilled cultivators can push out 8oz+ flushes.

If you think you can get 8oz flushes, then hey, go for it:cookiemonster:


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21797844 - 06/12/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The goal of mushroom growing should be to build an intimate relationship with another species. Who cares how much you grow?

Anyways, good luck. After almost a decade of off and on pf tek and brf casings, I'll be starting my first mini bulk grow utilizing agar and grains.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21797853 - 06/12/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if you don't make it to the moon there is certainly no stars near you to land upon one.  don't follow quotes that make no logistical sense to begin with.

weed and mushrooms are two different universes.  We grow up with a connectedness to plants from a young age.  Everyone has basic understanding of how to raise a plant (especially one so easy to take care of as weed)

Almost no one really knows much about mushroom propagation until they all of a sudden want to do it.  Its quite the adventure.  Go in with no expectations and cherish the possible few fruits you may receive from your first time.  At this time you will decide whether this hobby is for you and take it upon yourself to learn from your mistakes and always push your boundaries.  It's an amazing hobby.  Well worth the years of work to achieve mediocrity!


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Buck513]
    #21797909 - 06/12/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Ohhh. You're just a bad motherfucker ain't you?

Words are only that, just words. I can say I routinely get 10 wall to wall flushes from 5qt spawn, but that doesn't make it true does it?

Any dipshit can grow weed, but only skilled growers can grow really dank bud with a large harvest.
Just like any dipshit can grow cubes, but only skilled cultivators can push out 8oz+ flushes.

If you think you can get 8oz flushes, then hey, go for it:cookiemonster:


Don't forget the pics




Here you go again skeeting all over this noob dreams.

OP I know this is not what you want to hear. Large yields take practice with good ratios, technique and reading your substrate. If you don't care about wasting money buy a fern kits and Pf your heart out. Then by the time they finish up you'll see how much yield you could have gotten with grains.

That is if you don't mess up with a noob mistake like not flaming the needle, too much humidity (humidifier) and so on.

My advice is start with the basics and keep it simple to start and invest in knowledge, a PC and a SAB.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: 2shoes]
    #21797976 - 06/12/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you have a decent budget go ahead and invest in a PC, flow hood, micro butane torch, jars and grains, filter discs, SHIPs that's about $2200ish unless you build your hood.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: 2shoes]
    #21797983 - 06/12/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nah man, just keep buying bags of grain.
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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Inocuole]
    #21798036 - 06/12/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Im not trying to come off as cocky guys and I know I have much to learn im just excited and have ambition.

This is a phycadelic community like wheres the love, so much putting down. If i were a enthusiast and expert mushroom cultivator id be thrilled to have a noob with ambition in this community.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21798093 - 06/12/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ambition is great but mycology is an art. I see so many noob come out of the gate hot and a few weeks later are like WTF is this HELP!!!

My first grow was PF which I mixed up, PCed, inoculated and fruited yields weren't great but the knowledge and experience was worth way more than my yield.

Now I'm on to grains and can't be happier.

Keep your head up and plan for road bumps.

We just see threads like this all the time, don't take it to heart.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21798581 - 06/12/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you're being put down, I think, because a lot of people who have spent more than a month reading mush cult know, without a doubt, everything is laid out in extremely easy to understand step by step instructions.

Now I started like a year & a half ago and get the 'I don't know so I made a thread' attitude but what is sort of lacking from your thread is you trying to figure it out and grow(yourself) - it appears instead you're having to have things spoon fed to you.


Imagine you're babysitting a ten year old. They demand to be spoon fed. You know they can do it themselves very easily likely even if they are severely handicap. You, the babysitter, might try to coax the kid into eating normally but when he refuses and demands to be spoon fed you may find the phrase "this is a huge waste of my time, fuck him" running through your mind. I hope this metaphor lets you see another perspective. Cool you grew weed I love that shit. But saying you grew weed doesn't mean anything here. Like bringing a bowling trophy to a cooking class.

You will find this community are full of very kind people but with a low tolerance for bullshit.

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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21798607 - 06/12/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I had that same attitude when I started growing weed and people said the same thing and I had a very successful first harvest thanks.

I know that things take practice but just because you have a lot of experiences at something doesn't mean that  a novice can't pull it off in their first try.

"Shoot for the moon and if you dont make it their you will land somewhere upon  the stars"

in other words

try for a pound and if that doesnt happen get  a half pound. You always gotta raise your standards.




Mushrooms aren't weed. Did you look at those links I gave you?


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #21798831 - 06/12/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It would have been easier to just look it all up instead of getting different answers and people putting you down. Bet you would have all the answers by now too if you looked up stuff this whole time.

I didn't ask for advice when I started and i started with monotubs. If I did it, I know you can. I didn't even know coir existed back then and did manure, and still succeeded. If you grew weed, and didn't get spoon fed, this should be a cinch.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: 2shoes]
    #21799012 - 06/12/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"I know that things take practice but just because you have a lot of experiences at something doesn't mean that  a novice can't pull it off in their first try."

You can pull it off in your first try. A grow that is, maybe not a half pound. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say that I read this site non stop for like three months before I even posted or bought cultivation supplies. This is nothing like plants. Novice usually means it's not your first try.

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Before you purchase more stuff from a vendor. Watch the "Let's Grow Mushroom" videos. That will show you what to prepare for.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Grey]
    #21799046 - 06/12/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Logistical?

Before you purchase more stuff from a vendor. Watch the "Let's Grow Mushroom" videos. That will show you what to prepare for.




Completely forgot about this.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #21799419 - 06/12/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It does sound really easy at first... inoculate spawn bag with syringe, mix with substrate.

And yea, if everything goes as planned it is. 
My first few bulk grows were spores to grain and I had a better sucess rate then I do now :lol:

Sometimes you get lucky like that. You might for a while too. But then things start going wrong and suddenly its not so easy any more.

So yea, I can see why it seems wicked easy at first. But growimg cubes really isnt all *that* easy, they take a lot of love.
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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: mushpunx]
    #21799441 - 06/12/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm barely above 1/2 pound a mono, I run 9-10 tubs and get about 6lbs a month. I'm still learning and have been growing going on 3 years lol


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21799461 - 06/12/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Do whatever you want and see what works for you. Only way to find out is try. Just keep things sterile and follow the steps of whatever tek your following the right way. Everyone is going to have their opinion but the best part of this is finding out what works and mastering it. I call it an addiction because once you start you never want to stop. People on here are awesome and will help you through the process. Shroom on!!!


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: blazedup]
    #21800869 - 06/13/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Am I the only one that thinks distributing a half pound at a party sounds like a recipe for disaster?


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Inocuole]
    #21800901 - 06/13/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's his party, he can cry if he wants to.  :thumbup:


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: grainbrain]
    #21800903 - 06/13/15 06:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh there will be crying. :lol:


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Inocuole]
    #21800947 - 06/13/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

honestly i dont know if one brick of coir is 350 or 650...thanks for clearing this...anyway 2 quarts of verm to one brick of coir...or 1 quart verm 1 quart coffee but id go for verm only!
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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: oontribe]
    #21800951 - 06/13/15 06:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A whole QUART of coffee?  For a first grow?  Do you want this guy to fail or wha- oh, wait, yeah, I mean, definitely! Add a quart of coffee, it makes the mushrooms super potent.

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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: PartyPat]
    #21800958 - 06/13/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I did this TEK and did 3 monos and got just shy of a dry pound for my first grow.  I never bought presterilized jars and spent less than 250 bucks for everything, but I could have spent less if I was pinching pennies.


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19792837


If you want a half pound then just bang out 3+ monos and get it done with.  If you read and do your homework then you should get more than a half pound out of three.  You probably could get it out of two.  You maybe could get it out of one if God came down from heaven and touched your tub with his golden dick.

Oh and if you keep flushing out your tubs they'll keep growing they just usually are pointless after the second flush.  I generally get a little over a half pound off of a mono if I do two flushes.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Inocuole]
    #21800959 - 06/13/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

well i read that coffee can easily contaminate :smile:


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: oontribe]
    #21800965 - 06/13/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I see mush cult hasn't changed.


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Buck513]
    #21800969 - 06/13/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Then be the change you wish to see in the world :wook:


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Re: Help Me Achieve A Half Pound (Novice Here) [Re: Big Bear]
    #21800971 - 06/13/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Stop bitching.
Start a revolution.


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