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Lawnboy1185
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Fruiting during colonozation
#21794182 - 06/11/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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First grow, 3rd attempt.

I have contaminations in all of the jars so this batch is done, but after 5 weeks in they started to fruit during colonization. I have narrowed my mistakes down to and/or; packing the jars too tight (Is it ok that after PC the jars settle leaving a half inch of open space? What is the most amount of open space allowed)?, or I only flamed every 3rd jar (although they all became contaminated so I doubt thats the reason).
The temperature has stayed between 72-83 in an open closet on the top self.
The jars all all wet with condensation.
I am going to post more pictures with some more questions below.......
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#21794190 - 06/11/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why are they beginning to fruit early? And can these be dried and eaten?
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#21794194 - 06/11/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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These are 1/4 pint jars that have been sitting for 5 weeks. There are contaminations that can be seen. Are these ready for fruiting?
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#21794198 - 06/11/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Where is the contam?
The dry verm barrier isn't supposed to be colonized. It looks fully colonized except for the verm barrier.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#21794199 - 06/11/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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fruit them if they are pinning dunk and roll!
if the pins fall off while rolling eat em
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: twistedty]
#21794211 - 06/11/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The black shit on on all of the jars. I started a 4th batch, which I will post below that are 3 or 4 weeks in. Same problem is starting.
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#21794217 - 06/11/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lawnboy1185 said:

These are 1/4 pint jars that have been sitting for 5 weeks. There are contaminations that can be seen. Are these ready for fruiting?
the pics look fine to me 
slide em out and take a pic, you should get an overwhelming earthy/mushroom smell
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#21794218 - 06/11/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the 4th attempt...about 4 weeks in, still first grow.

Contamination is beginning on the bottom of the jars and condensation appears to be building up.
Why is this so hard?!?!?!....I am building a book of fails!
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: twistedty]
#21794228 - 06/11/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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These are 1/4 pint jars that have been sitting for 5 weeks. There are contaminations that can be seen. Are these ready for fruiting?
the pics look fine to me 
slide em out and take a pic, you should get an overwhelming earthy/mushroom smell
They have not started pinning but I havent seen action in a week or so. It looks like there is a very big dry layer of verm but I dont remember making it that big>?>
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#21794232 - 06/11/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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use the right sized jars.
those tall ones tend to compact and stall out at the bottom. especially if you handle them alot.
fruit those short 1/2 pints and the ones fruiting.
i find grains were easier than brf.
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#21794242 - 06/11/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lawnboy1185 said:
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twistedty said:
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Lawnboy1185 said:

These are 1/4 pint jars that have been sitting for 5 weeks. There are contaminations that can be seen. Are these ready for fruiting?
the pics look fine to me 
slide em out and take a pic, you should get an overwhelming earthy/mushroom smell
They have not started pinning but I havent seen action in a week or so. It looks like there is a very big dry layer of verm but I dont remember making it that big>?>
guess you could give em another week if youd like. they look good to me though. wait for other opinions.
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: twistedty]
#21794299 - 06/11/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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How are you sterilizing the jars?
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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There is also the possibility that you have a contaminated syringe? Did you get them from a reliable vendor? Do you see the same contamination in every jar or does it vary?
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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elasticaltiger said: There is also the possibility that you have a contaminated syringe? Did you get them from a reliable vendor? Do you see the same contamination in every jar or does it vary?
It is the source of a flying bird of prey and the part of the body it sees with and I flamed sterilized every 3rd jar. They all have the same contamination forming and have condensation built up around the jars.
PC for 5 hours and then let sit over night, done with a glove box and then foil was left off and placed on a top shelf in an open closet.
I did pack the jars a little bit. (in a previous fail the jars all settled and left almost an in of open space.
I am going to switch to the short 1/2 pint jars before I give it another go.
>>>Whats the definition of insanity DOING THE SAME THING AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS!!!<<<<<<<
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Re: Fruiting during colonozation [Re: Lawnboy1185]
#21794430 - 06/11/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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When you PC does your weight rock back and forth a lot?
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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No I dont think so. I place 4 jars on the bottom and then a pan with holes on top and then put the knocked up jars on top of those.
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