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First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures)
    #21793677 - 06/11/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey guys I spawned 2 mini mono's of APE to coir and verm using the bucket tek on May 26th, 16 days ago.

I fruited them on Sunday June 7th.. 4 days ago.

When I originally fruited them they looked like this:





Then I cased them immediately with a mix of coir, verm, hydrated lime, and gypsum. They looked like this:






Heres some pictures that I took yesterday..:

















So the previous pics were going to be the start of a grow log for this operation.. but today after getting off work just a few minutes ago I found some stuff that I don't exactly like. (or understand) :


tub 1

tub 1

tub 1

tub 1

tub 1




tub 2


Sooooooooo......... first of all there is a collection of yellowish goldish liquid on the middle of tub 1. Also in tub 1, there is some yellowish blob near one of the polyfill holes. WTF is this!? I'm gonna lose my mind if it just got contaminated because i chose to put the casing layer on!!!

Secondly.. all the skinny strands of mycelium.. is that "aerial mycelium"? Is that caused by not enough FAE?

-I have a fan running in the room. All 4 long sided walls are stuffed tight, and the two short ends are stuffed real loosely.

-I have been misting and fanning them twice per day because I cant seem to get a for sure answer on the subject. Some say to mist and fan/ some say a mono is set it and forget it..

I guess just tell me guys what you think of these tubs and please let me know what the yellow/gold liquid and spot is.... also if the strands of mycelium are a sign of low FAE and how exactly I should fix them (if i dont have to toss them that is :'( )


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21793705 - 06/11/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The yellow liquid is just metabolites.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: mushmagic]
    #21793767 - 06/11/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

looking good man! You made the right decision casing it PE benefits from a casing layer immensely.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: fan5]
    #21794624 - 06/11/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You don't want it pooling water on the casing but you don't want it dry either. Keep it damp. I'm not sure if it's pooling or dried out but yellow can come from both.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21794940 - 06/11/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm going to stop misting regularly and only mist if it looks dry


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21802718 - 06/13/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



Updated picture as of today.

Are the blue ones aborts? Not sure if they should be picked or kept growing.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21802737 - 06/13/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ape turns blue as it matures. Not aborts.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21812089 - 06/15/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)






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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21812285 - 06/15/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Those are some fatties :crazy2:


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: jbaby007]
    #21812517 - 06/15/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:dawerp: nice job mang


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21813103 - 06/16/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Are the blue ones aborts? Not sure if they should be picked or kept growing.



Blue is a usually a sign of bruising or water droplets.  I'd let them grow and just keep an eye on them.  Maybe lower the rh a bit.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: ShroominMe]
    #21813108 - 06/16/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

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Are the blue ones aborts? Not sure if they should be picked or kept growing.



Blue is a usually a sign of bruising or water droplets.  I'd let them grow and just keep an eye on them.  Maybe lower the rh a bit.




Read four posts above your post by Mad Season.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: mushmagic]
    #21813111 - 06/16/15 12:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thats a beautiful pic you have:mushroom2


also how do i make a topic ?


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: Cujllickduo]
    #21813501 - 06/16/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So the blue ones will be ready to pick soon since they are matured?

There's a ton more pins today!!


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21813571 - 06/16/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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So the blue ones will be ready to pick soon since they are matured?

There's a ton more pins today!!




They will get very blue before they are ready. Navy almost. Like these.



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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21815968 - 06/16/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)




Thanks for all the help Pasty. You've probably been the most helpful resource in my growing endeavors.

Now after I pick these obvious shrooms.. are the already formed pins still going to be considered the first flush?

I mean do I harvest these large ones when they are ready ( I know some are)  and then wait to harvest some more in a few days or do I dunk/rehydrate the sub immediately after picking the large ones. I'm referring to the hundreds of little balls :laugh:


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21816029 - 06/16/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Give the little ones some time, take the ones that are ready. I like twist n pull for APE balls :awesomenod:


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21816056 - 06/16/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just wasn't sure because I've read some stuff like twisting and pulling will tear up the sub and lower the yield of future flushes/increase chance of contams.

Is there any truth to that?


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21816075 - 06/16/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

To be honest I used to mess with cutting and slicing, yet the stumps left behind seem to be a greater contam vector than any divots made by twist and pull.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21817020 - 06/16/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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To be honest I used to mess with cutting and slicing, yet the stumps left behind seem to be a greater contam vector than any divots made by twist and pull.



:awesomenod:

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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: eatyualive]
    #21817059 - 06/16/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks!! They're not really getting as tall as I thought they would but I'm not complaining :crazy2:


Are these really going to be more potent than something like golden teacher s? I grew those for my first grow in January and an 8th of those completely blew my mind lol.


I'm very curious as to what's going to happen to these tubs. The sub is covered in little tiny pins. I guess I don't even know if those are all technically pins yet but I know they are the start lol. I know most will abort but there's so many :dawerp:

I'm assuming since there's so much growth now that I can/should start misting more often? Atleast once, maybe twice a day?


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21817065 - 06/16/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ape are notorious for making bulbs and golf balls.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: eatyualive]
    #21817076 - 06/16/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Of course potency is subject to many variables but, I recommend not eating an eighth off the bat.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21817092 - 06/16/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ha i recommend 4 grams dry your first ride. might as well "conquer the world".:rofl:

or at least that is what people in these parts tried the first go.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: eatyualive]
    #21817154 - 06/16/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm thinking 2.5 is a good dose. I like to share with my friends so hopefully I get a decent yield.

I have some chitwan spawn colonizing right now and can't wait to see what that can do in a monotub. Screw cakes lol.


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21828616 - 06/19/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)





Updated pictures!!!

Harvested these in the last couple days


Just harvested these little guys after taking the above two pictures



Am I supposed to pick all of the aborted/ dark grayish pins? I'm afraid to mess with them because I just know by trying to get them out of there I'm going to damage some nice looking white ones.


Edited by and.i.crawl (06/19/15 04:33 PM)


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21852847 - 06/24/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Update:

Just weighed my dry weight and I got 55 grams. Me and 4 friends had 7.65 between us on Saturday so I guess the total rough dry weight from first flush was 62-63 grams.

They were very good!


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21934624 - 07/12/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Got about 160 dry grams right now after the 3rd flush and probably went through 20-30 grams atleast. So that's almost 200 dry grams off 2 mini monos. So very impressed with my first mono tub grow and I wanted to say thanks to all of you for helping me.

Sadly I think I'm going to toss them tonight. They're not showing signs of contams and I know I could get atleast one more flush from them but I have a new chitwan tub ready to fruit and I don't have the room/lights/light timers for 3 at once. Plus I'm completely fine with the harvest so far!


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: and.i.crawl] * 1
    #21934716 - 07/12/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

200 dry grams will go a long way :vibin:


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Re: First Monotub/APE Grow. Need help! (lots of pictures) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21935598 - 07/12/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I had to stash a tub after 3 flushes when I went out of country for 10 days.  In a closet, wrapped in a blanket.  Found a lot of fruits when I returned.

No need to throw away :smile:


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