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oontribe

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potency issue
#21793474 - 06/11/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Harvested some mexi-cub from brf cakes...before dring them in the oven i stored them for couple of days in the fridge because the cakes were giving me uneven pin sits and didnt want to dry one mushroom at a time. so after storing them in the fridge i placed them in the oven crack dried them and in the middle of the process they heavily bruised blue. could it be genetics? Or storing them in the fridge? Or what? my friend ate 4g dry and he didnt feel ANYTHING.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: potency issue [Re: oontribe]
#21793494 - 06/11/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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most likely luck of the genes. but degridation occurs while fruits are still wet oxidation reactions (not oxygen exposure) happen while the cells break down and die if they're dry they're dead but they don't go through the natural cell death shit.
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oontribe

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I think i should start doing agar...thx man
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Re: potency issue [Re: oontribe]
#21793630 - 06/11/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If too much heat is used they can appear cracker dry when they're not. That would make them seem less potent from the remaining water weight. You should be able to crumble the entire mushroom into powder if it's completely dried, good way of checking them.
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Re: potency issue [Re: oontribe]
#21793895 - 06/11/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is your friend on any medication?
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GombaTaltos
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Re: potency issue [Re: oontribe]
#21794224 - 06/11/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Plz explain how you dried them in the oven. Heat might have destroyed the actives.
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twistedty
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Quote:
frostmage said: Plz explain how you dried them in the oven. Heat might have destroyed the actives.
nope.
only way it was destroyed if the fruits werent properly dried in the oven. then stored semi dry.
to properly maintain potency dry them AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
as in have your dehydrator on as youre harvesting and throw em on the trays
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Mandarinfish

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Re: potency issue [Re: oontribe]
#21794272 - 06/11/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Edited by Mandarinfish (07/15/20 10:42 PM)
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oontribe

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Nope my friend is not on any medications. i think its genetics, i have stored mushrooms before in the fridge for a couple of days before oven dry them and they worked fine! if you dont have dehydrator you just cant dry one mushroom after the other in the oven unattended. i put them on the top rack on a tray heat on 150c...worked before!
Edited by oontribe (06/11/15 06:39 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: potency issue [Re: oontribe]
#21794298 - 06/11/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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the mushrooms would burn up if the actives were burning up.
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mycomaniac1402
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Yes , Azure has a good point. Years ago certain meds made it were I needed 5 to 8 grams to have a good trip and never any visuals. It felt more like a marijuana feel.
Now I only need around 2 g of cubes or .50 of Pans. To be blasted to another dimension lol. Thankfully Ive never had potency issues with multispore but I can see why it would being so un predictable.
Edited by mycomaniac1402 (06/11/15 06:30 PM)
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elasticaltiger
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I don't know if this is true or not but I've heard that seriously blue'd shrooms are way less potent than their golden coutnerparts.
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oontribe

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Yea they were totally blued...epically after removing them from the fridge and placing them inside the oven to dry.
I have noticed too that whenever i just dry directly id get less bruising and more dry weight but when i dry frozen mushroom they bruise dry faster and give me less weight!
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Re: potency issue [Re: oontribe]
#21794715 - 06/11/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Highly oxidized.
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Re: potency issue [Re: oontribe]
#21794767 - 06/11/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I had potency issues until I started letting the myc consolidate for long periods of time.
never had issues since.
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azur
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I've never had potency issues
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