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solipsism

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14g dried shrooms - Slight effects
#21793358 - 06/11/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well last night I tried eating 14g of shrooms after three other failed attempts to actually trip. I started with 1/8 3 weeks ago and have been bumping up the dose every week by another 1/8. The first two attempts I got slight wall breathing and nothing else. Third attempt I used the lemon tek with 10.5g. I finally got something well sorta. I noticed a slight increase in euphoria and awe and wonder. I also fell into a bad mind loop for hours but not enough to be a bad trip.
Now yesterday, at 3pm I ate 7g and took about 60mg of mxe then another 7g at 5pm. I only experienced increased euphoria and also a very clear headspace, yet still no visuals or anything I really expected to experience from a psychedelic.
Could it be possible I just need a lot more then normal? I have two dried ounces in my closet. What if I made myself some tea using an entire ounce or even two ounces?
EDIT: I take no medication aside from a daily allergy relief. Is it possible a Cetirizine Hydrochloride 10mg/Antihistamine could affect my trips?
Edited by solipsism (06/11/15 02:47 PM)
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21793394 - 06/11/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe you have some weak mushrooms. Did anyone else try them.
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solipsism

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Yup I've been giving them away to friends. First two said it was amazing after taking 1/8 each. I have a few others who have tried but none said anything about a weak potency.
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Are they cubensis? I have read that the psilocybe cubensis strain is on the weaker side when compared to mushrooms such as panaeolus cyanescens. I have yet to try any other species of mushrooms besides cubensis but even your starting dose, 1/8 or 3.5 grams, should most definitely give you a good, solid 4-5 hour trip with the peak being fairly intense. Now... If you lemon tek'd 10.5 grams & you weren't full throttle balls to the walls tripping then sorry but you have some EXTREMELY weak mushrooms dude.
I'm going to rule out a tolerance issue because a lot of people trip weekly with good results. My only other guesses would be that maybe you're mushrooms aren't fully dried yet OR you have some other species of psychedelic mushrooms that have a very low psilocybin content.
Sorry man!
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21793428 - 06/11/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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They are psilocybe cubensis. Ideally I hope you are right to say my current grow was just weak. However based on others who have tried it I would say I might be me either mentally or chemically. I think I'll ask around with my friends to get more detail on there trips I think.
Also something I forgot to mention also with dmt I can't seem to breakthrough either. With 500mg I only managed to get sub breakthrough twice using the machine. I started out using about 70mg per session but got the sub breakthroughs using around 100-150mg Every other attempt was completely futile. I plan on extracting some this summer to try again though.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21793473 - 06/11/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you use cannabis at all/ during these trips?
Have you spent anytime in the dark with your eyelids closed?
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: wolf fish]
#21793489 - 06/11/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yup I've tripped day time and night time. Music no music. Showers, mirrors, weed, mxe, Outside, and inside.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21793492 - 06/11/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Did you use a MS (multispore syringe) for innoculating your jars? If so then perhaps your syringe just had bad genetics. But then you say that others have sampled these exact same mushrooms at 3.5 grams with good results, which is a far cry away from 10.5 grams. So who knows... beats me.
There are too many variables to consider when trying to figure out why you didn't trip off of 10 grams of mushrooms VS your friends tripping off of an 1/8. Honestly though, if I was to bet on it I would say most likely you just have terribly weak mushrooms because 10.5 grams of psilocybe cubensis (lemon tek'd or not) would rock anyone's world, even experienced psychonauts.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21793505 - 06/11/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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your tolerance and drug combination wouldnt of helped with getting the desired affects you was after... If you really want to get that deep, I suggest taking a month off of shrooms and then dosing a heroic dose to get you shuttled off into hyperspace.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: Blazer420]
#21793543 - 06/11/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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@Blazer420, I am not saying your full of it by any means but do you think that his tolerance was really that high for him not to not feel the effects of 10.5 grams of mushrooms lemon tek'd? OP even said that he waited a week in between each time he dosed. Plus he is upping the dose by 3.5 grams each time. People up the dose like that to still get effects when tripping back to back/day to day. Not week to week.
I was under the impression that OP just did the mushrooms. He combined it with MXE?
@solipsism, are you still tripping just not getting exactly where you'd like to be? Because mushrooms are pretty unpredictable. Mushrooms aren't on your time, YOU'RE on the mushroom's time. Haha. Get what I mean?
Edited by Bigfeely123 (06/11/15 03:40 PM)
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21793588 - 06/11/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I get what your saying about being on the shrooms time sorta. Maybe I'm just not mentally ready for a spiritual journey or anything else along the lines of that. I might try 1/8 again in a different setting otherwise I might just need to take an ounce then call it quits for a while. I read someone say mxe helped there acid trip before but for me the mxe just felt stronger then the shrooms.
As far as am I tripping or not. I am but just a mild trip. I usually notice walls breathing within a hour or so but only with my 10.g lemon tek and 14g trips did I get anything more.
Edited by solipsism (06/11/15 03:52 PM)
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21793673 - 06/11/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here is what I would do if I was in your shoes to get the bottom of this mystery.
Wait another week or two before you eat mushrooms again. (longer would be better) In that waiting period do not take LSD because they have a cross tolerance. You want to make sure that your tolerance is diminished. Then on the day that you take the mushrooms make sure you don't eat anything for 6-8 hours prior to consuming the mushrooms. You want to eat them on an empty stomach. Take your desired dose. Do not combine any other drugs with the mushrooms-even pot. Remember, the whole point of this is to determine wether you're actually feeling the mushrooms or not. If you still didn't trip then I'd say with 99% certainty that your mushrooms have a very low psilocybin content. Therefore you got a MS with bad genetics so get your MS's elsewhere.
Did you take the MXE with the 3.5 or 10.5 dose? If you took MXE with your 3.5 dose then you may have been feeling the MXE more than the mushrooms, especially if you did a good amount of MXE. Although I wouldn't exactly say that the MXE would've "cancelled out" the effects of the mushrooms.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21793736 - 06/11/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alright I'll give what you suggested a go. What dosage would you suggest I go with? Perhaps I'll give 1/8 another go then if that fails I'll make some tea with an ounce and hope for the best.
Also the mxe was with the 14g dose.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21793811 - 06/11/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could you take a picture of these?
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21793841 - 06/11/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The shrooms? Sure, I have none growing atm but I have a good bit drying.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21793892 - 06/11/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Op, What is your drying method?
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21793952 - 06/11/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not that I don't believe you but I'm curious what they look like. Post a picture when you get a chance.
Try whatever dose you are comfortable with. An ounce is a huge jump from 14 grams. Lol. I hope you don't wind up going crazy running around butt naked.
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I put the shrooms in a colander with a heated fan a few feet back.

Edited by solipsism (06/11/15 05:57 PM)
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21794148 - 06/11/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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How long are they taking to dry? Do you just have a pile of fruits on top of each other in the colander?
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U on meds, SSRIs?
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: teenagehippie]
#21794160 - 06/11/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP said allergy medicine only.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: teenagehippie]
#21794169 - 06/11/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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No meds
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: teenagehippie]
#21794191 - 06/11/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I take no medication aside from a daily allergy relief.
Also yes I have the shrooms piled up in the colander but I've always been able to get them cracker dry easily.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21794225 - 06/11/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21794305 - 06/11/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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there was a quartar ingested with similar affects to these reports for last trip.
maybe it is missing something in the recipe...
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21794315 - 06/11/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Drugs.com list mxe as an SSRI, how often do you use MXE? Not sure if this is this case but I know that my SSRI decreases the trips A LOT. It's not a health
risk it to take them both (I don't think so at least) but as far as I know the SSRI blocks the psilocybin a little. I don't man, I doubt it is your shrooms.
Maybe you are just expecting too much bro!
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: foodsgoodtoo]
#21794323 - 06/11/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP, do you have OCD?
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: GoldenEye]
#21794351 - 06/11/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lemontek with 10gs should've sent you to pluto
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: GoldenEye]
#21794740 - 06/11/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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No I'm not OCD atleast not medically stated as. Tests online say otherwise but how accurate can they be?
EDIT: Would it matter if I was?
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21794810 - 06/11/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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People with OCD were found to need up to six times the dose of LSD in the psychotherapeutic sessions of Stanislav Grof in his research in the 60's/70's. OCD is a way to create an illusion of control. People that suffer from it highly value control and are therefor typically very resistant to the effects of psychedelics.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: GoldenEye]
#21794881 - 06/11/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Interesting I should read up some on that. Sometimes I feel that it could just be my mind refusing to let go.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21794904 - 06/11/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here is a bit of it from his book titled LSD Psychotherapy:
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21794953 - 06/11/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It is not possible that it takes 14g of average strength shrooms (dry) to feel much. A third of that dose should have you tripping hard. There is no way an antihistamine could have caused 14g to have very little effect. There is something wrong with the shrooms, not something off with your body. The shrooms you are getting must have very low potency for whatever reason.
Its really weird though that your friends said they were really good after taking a 1/8 but you take 14g and not much. They could just be being nice and saying they were great- or the ones you gave them were of higher potency than the ones you took for whatever reason.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21795011 - 06/11/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: @Blazer420, I am not saying your full of it by any means but do you think that his tolerance was really that high for him not to not feel the effects of 10.5 grams of mushrooms lemon tek'd? OP even said that he waited a week in between each time he dosed. Plus he is upping the dose by 3.5 grams each time. People up the dose like that to still get effects when tripping back to back/day to day. Not week to week.
I was under the impression that OP just did the mushrooms. He combined it with MXE?
@solipsism, are you still tripping just not getting exactly where you'd like to be? Because mushrooms are pretty unpredictable. Mushrooms aren't on your time, YOU'RE on the mushroom's time. Haha. Get what I mean? 
I have myself had up to 14 grams just to get onto a level 5, where as 5-7g would of got me there without any tolerance.. I was on a mushroom binge for a couple months.. So yeah I think tolerance has a big part of not being able to get the desired affects.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: Blazer420]
#21795026 - 06/11/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I trip once a week and have recently decided to take a time out lol because of tolerance. The trips are still intense but the duration has been very short, only about 2-3 hrs rather than the normal 6 hr trips. Imo 14 grams should should still have a big effect if there is no potency issue with them. I personally would try a different drying method and compare the 2 methods for potency
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Alright with my next harvest I'll use a non heated fan perhaps and I should spread them out more if I can.
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It is possible your friends might of slightly had a placebo effect going into it expecting nothing. It sounds like you are trying really hard to have some
good visuals and you might have to face the fact that obtaining that may be not in your reach. I don't hallucinate much at all, no matter how much or what
substance. I don't know why but I hate it. BUT I do get very good body loads and some aight CEV's. You might want to lower your standards a little bit.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: TrippieHunter]
#21795120 - 06/11/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well said. Whenever I try to trip i'm expecting colorful visuals and growing plants. Perhaps I need to just lay down and close my eyes.
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21795141 - 06/11/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's the single best decision I have ever made in my tripping carreer. Lying down with a blindfold on. It's beautiful
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Re: 14g dried shrooms - Slight effects [Re: solipsism]
#21795243 - 06/11/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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solipsism said: Alright with my next harvest I'll use a non heated fan perhaps and I should spread them out more if I can.
I'd keep the heated fan but don't pile a bunch on top of each other. Try spreading them out and get em dry as quick as possible. By piling them up the way your drying, the outside fruits are drying first and then absorbing the moisture from the inner ones. I think your potency issues are drying related tbo.
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I hope your right PinPorn. That would surely make my day. If it was that simple of a mistake.
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