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Re: Lots of anxiety after a bad trip, how can I trip again without worry? [Re: thehoff117]
    #21802688 - 06/13/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I use psychedelics mainly for healing and exploration (and of course having fun is part of that. If you think you have to not have fun to be spiritual, youve got it backwards) but I don't find it necessary to engage in some sort of elaborate rituals when I trip. I pray to the plant spirit before each trip and make the sign of the cross. The rest of the time I do whatever feels right to me in the moment. Sometimes that could be meditation or prayer, but often its simply not necessary because the drug already opens the doors of perception, so rituals and practices designed to open those doors become redundant.


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Re: Lots of anxiety after a bad trip, how can I trip again without worry? [Re: Deviate]
    #21802711 - 06/13/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Methamphetamine occurs in nature , Scopolamine occurs in nature ,Coke occurs in nature tons of toxic drugs occurs in nature . It's not because it's natural that it's better or safer or more spiritual :shrug:


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Re: Lots of anxiety after a bad trip, how can I trip again without worry? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21802717 - 06/13/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I disagree. Just because there are some toxic things in nature, doesn't mean that by and large, natural drugs arent far safer and more beneficial than synthetic ones.

and show me this so called methamphetime plant or cocaine. Yes i know cocaine is made from coca but coca in its natural form is actually pretty safe. the man manipulated forms like crack are when it becomes unbalanced and dangerous.


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Re: Lots of anxiety after a bad trip, how can I trip again without worry? [Re: Deviate]
    #21802739 - 06/13/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

somes acacia contains meth and other amp look it up

I've also had some of the most profound experience on some 4-aco-subs and N2O combined


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Re: Lots of anxiety after a bad trip, how can I trip again without worry? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21803001 - 06/13/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

well N2o is a natural gas but I am not saying you cant have profound experiences on synthetics. ONLY that generally speaking, natural drugs are much safer and better. just look at the pharmaceutical industry. now compare the effects of those drugs to natural substances like kava, mushrooms, cacti, etc. Which guy do you think is gonna be more mentally healthy? The guy who uses kava for anxiety and cactus for mental health or the guy who takes xanax, SSRIs and seroquil?

Not saying all synthetics are useless. I think LSD is a good chemical, but none the less mushrooms and cactus are much more special.


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Re: Lots of anxiety after a bad trip, how can I trip again without worry? [Re: Deviate]
    #21803714 - 06/13/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, but datura is a natural drug that is terrible all around.


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Re: Lots of anxiety after a bad trip, how can I trip again without worry? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #21803731 - 06/13/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have read great things about datura, haven't taken it myself but suspect it is misunderstood like aminita muscaria.


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