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Zorroro
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: LeopardMan]
#21827987 - 06/19/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol
I'm usually very patient but lately jasld;faksdjfal, know what I mean?
I'm out of weed, dammit.
lol
Anyways, I removed a lot of the poly-fil, I think I had it stuffed in there too tight. Now it's light and fluffy.
There's a nice carbon filter and ceiling fan running in the room.
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: Zorroro]
#21828015 - 06/19/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zorroro said: I'm out of weed, dammit.
Let's cry together man. It's tough, I know.
Good job on the polyfil, but keep an eye on the fan. Usually you don't want a fan in the same room with your tub, but since you want to dry up the substrate a little bit it should be fine for a a day or two. Don't go overboard though.
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: LeopardMan]
#21828035 - 06/19/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Really? I thought some gentle air circulation was preferred to entirely still air?
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LeopardMan
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: Zorroro]
#21828220 - 06/19/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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For a few days it's not a problem, but it could definitely be an issue for a longer period of time, especially if you live in a dry area.
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Zorroro
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: LeopardMan]
#21828426 - 06/19/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Temp is 70 F and RH is currently 58% in the room (with ceiling fan on medium speed)
Anyways I'll post another pic in a few days.
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: Zorroro]
#21828602 - 06/19/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zorroro said:
Now, as I'm making this new monotub I'm examining my new jars (which I created with a grain to grain transfer) and I'm noticing a metric shitton of moisture. I knew they were a bit moist when they were fully colonized, but they've been colonized for about a week now and there's a whole lotta more moisture in there, also some yellowing. I'm not sure what to do.
http://imgur.com/GvdtVI5
Yellowing in the spawn before full colonization is a sure sign of contaminates. Spawning those jars to pasteurized substrate will most likely contaminate before the first flush. Now if metabolites appear only after the substrate has fully colonized and is in FC conditions then it could be from heat stress...or contaminates as well.
Sometimes my colonizing quart jars develop excess moisture in 1/4 of empty space above the colonizing rye, but the colonizing mycelium itself should not look that wet. It will lead to bacteria contamination.
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: shroomyaxn]
#21828668 - 06/19/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not sure what I can do to reduce moisture in my rye jars.
I'm following the "Let's Grow Mushrooms 5 steps to perfect grain spawn" very closely (minus the gypsum) and I'm actually spreading the grain out on aluminum foil to dry for a few hours before putting it in the jar.
I have no idea what is causing the excess moisture, or how to reduce it.
The jars seem to be colonizing quickly anyways. I did a grain to grain transfer with those jars and in a week they're already half colonized. I checked the new monotub yesterday and it looks like it's well on it's way to successfully colonizing.
Any ideas?
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: Zorroro]
#21830352 - 06/19/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zorroro said: I'm actually spreading the grain out on aluminum foil to dry for a few hours before putting it in the jar.
I have no idea what is causing the excess moisture, or how to reduce it.
Any ideas?
To reduce the moisture in your rye you need to bring the grains to a boil for at least 5 minutes right before dumping them into a wire strainer. Then immediately shake dry the rye until the steam no longer evaporates from the grains. This is the key.
When the steam is done evaporating off the rye, turn the rye over in the stainer every so often so the surface of the grains continue to dry.
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: shroomyaxn]
#21830421 - 06/19/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I go through that entire process and afterwards I lay them out in a thin layer to dry for an additional 1-2 hours. This also allows them to reach room temperature so that no condensation occurs inside the jars.
That tends to be the plan, anyways.
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: Zorroro]
#21842812 - 06/22/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://imgur.com/a/CwQRT
Looks like Christmas came early this year!
I have 2 tubs stacked one on top of the other. On the bottom tub, it looks like most of the growth is around the outside. Soooooo I'm assuming it's because the tub on top is blocking the light from getting to the center?
The other tub, (the closeup) has pins/shrooms more numerous but smaller, more evenly spread throughout the tub.
Anyways, I'm looking forward to harvesting these.
I'll try to take a better picture before I harvest the first flush.
I guess my only question is, after the first flush, what do I do before the second flush? Just keep waiting for more? With PF tek I would dunk the cakes for an additional 12-24 hours...how do additional flushes work with monotubs?
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: Zorroro]
#21844961 - 06/23/15 07:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I told you man 
You can dunk tubs, but if you don't know what you are doing you are better off heavy misting them for a few days 
Also give that bottom tub more light please.
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: LeopardMan]
#21847611 - 06/23/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think for my next monotub I will try a scheduled 12/12 fluoro instead of the dim light from the window.
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: Zorroro]
#21847775 - 06/23/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Those are some healthy looking pins man!! I wonder how much your final yield will be given with the 2 qts of spawn. i had 2 jars knocked up and 1 made it through. Hopefully 1 at can do the trick.
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: LeopardMan]
#21849045 - 06/24/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: Zorroro]
#21849051 - 06/24/15 05:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why does it look like they're fruiting off of tyvek
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Zorroro
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: Buck513]
#21849059 - 06/24/15 05:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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bad photography?
it's just a white trash bag
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: Zorroro]
#21849078 - 06/24/15 06:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zorroro said: http://i.imgur.com/KjXyQ6G.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JM98Dmf.jpg
They need more FAE. Elongated and fuzzy stems. You gotta work on your polyfil or fan a few times a day. Other than that, it's all god
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: LeopardMan]
#21849094 - 06/24/15 06:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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awesome, thanks for all the help dude.
i will post a pic after the harvest
wet, and dry
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Zorroro
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: LeopardMan]
#21850218 - 06/24/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, I picked one of the shrooms, the veil was starting to break.
15 grams wet....should amount to about 1.5g dry
Anyways, the base of the stem is pretty gelatinous...totally saturated. A bit translucent.
Is this part still okay to eat or would I be better off cutting that part off?
http://i.imgur.com/8K80qei.jpg
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Re: monotub colonization - 13 days...too wet? (pics) [Re: Zorroro]
#21850224 - 06/24/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dude, just put it in the dehydrator.
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