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I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT
    #21791668 - 06/11/15 03:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You are the universe ecperienmcing itself. You are all things and all things are in you.  Everything contains all things and is on that journey, is a guise of you.

You are Eternal.

The Snake bites its Tail.

All Lives are yours forever. You will become the God of all Universes and then the smallest part again.

Om Alaipzi! Om Alaipzi!

When you hear these two words sang to you you know you are on the right path.

Om = God = Love

Alaipzi = Come With Me.



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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: Asante]
    #21791930 - 06/11/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Everything is connected its almost like the universe is a big consciousness really I've been reading a lot of your things and I feel the same way about the universe


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: Asante]
    #21792889 - 06/11/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You are the universe ecperienmcing itself.

Right. :yesnod: But we are all constantly caught in the delusion that we are only the existential form and fail to see ourselves as the ontologically formless also. In other words, we perceive 'Samsara' but miss 'Nirvana,' when we should be seeing them together. One is all change (Shakti), and the other is changeless (Shiva). Both Buddhist and Hindu expressions of this truth, psychological and mythological, respectively, seek to express this. The Nyingma School of Tibetan Buddhism illustrates Ultimate Reality as the Adi-Buddha, Samantabhadra and Samantabhadri, Compassion and Wisdom, conjoined in Yab-Yum sexual embrace. The same image is found with Shiva-Shakti images in Hinduism, but the 'energies' are described differently based on different religious formulations. Other Hindu myths account for the unreality sensed by some, the dreamlike (and frequently nightmarish) aspect of "waking life." Vishnu dreams the universe and experiences it through the eyes of every sentient creature, the cilia of every Paramecium, the molecular changes of every bacterium, etc.

Humans, from a Terracentric position, are "The Crown of Creation." We should be behaving as gods, not devils and demons. Each one of us is an incarnation of God, and THAT is the true meaning of the Christ-myth. He is not a unique specie to be placed on a pedestal except as the paradigmatic truth about how it really is for every one of us. At bottom, we are all the Eternal "I AM." (Gnostics were accused of blasphemy for this revelation, but it is the Truth of the myth of the Incarnation IMO).

I like to consider the metaphor of waves, which, like each of us, arises from the Ocean of Existence, peaks, and diminishes on 'the other shore.' Most of us go through life identifying only with our temporary 'wave-ness,' and fail to identify with the Ocean with which we are made and from which we are never separate (Cosmic Consciousness!). I think Eckhart Tolle does a great job of illustrating this same Realization when he instructs us to leave time and live in timeless Being. Increasing awareness of our identity with Being, with Formlessness, diminishes the fear-of-death wrought by our one-sided identification with Form.


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #21792927 - 06/11/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

One is bound, until one is free.  And then one is free.

Perception of infinite peace and life, if only once, relieves one from concern of death forever.


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: MarkostheGnostic] * 1
    #21793697 - 06/11/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You are the universe ecperienmcing itself.

Right. :yesnod: But we are all constantly caught in the delusion that we are only the existential form and fail to see ourselves as the ontologically formless also.




So even if you 'get it' you'll still get drug back from pure being into the human drama of suffering again, and again, and again...  Until you shout from roof top HOLY MACARONI once more....  Twas ever thus the S&M forum :wink:


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21794565 - 06/11/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

okay i'll come out and say it then;

i said something different without contradiction markos, much as i respect him, i prefer not to counter what people say,


but this statement, 'we're all constantly caught'

is a specific, statement referring to limited beings.


in truth, we're not limited beings, not at all.  and there are many, many states of non-regression. . and i'm still a novice - the novice mind is a good mind to cultivate; and it's possible to do so.


i'm not a novice or a master, i'm just me, but one thing i'm absolutely sure of is that there are pretty much unlimited levels of life, within the universe and world, within the source, there are unlimited levels of existence in peace. . . and then there is the unlimited material world.


there are basically these two worlds, could also be called samsara or nirvana,

they're the tree of life from the vedas, bhagavat-gita, and kabbalah;

and so forth -

anyway, unlimited illusion, and then unlimited light;


statements about where i, you, or we or anyone is at on on the system is of less value than a a

clear, considered, and calm discussion of the places in reality, and how to get from one to another.

it does no one really any good to say 'i am in ___ [a great place] or  [a bad place] ,  because we see pretty quickly that those two qualifications are based on our particular understanding of the world.


to say things like 'we're all constantly caught in. . . ' is not useful, insightful, or beneficial.

never the less, i usually try to refrain from nit-picking of people i mostly respect ( and mostly respect is high and love enough, i mostly respect everyone, or at least try to; even people id on't like, i notice that if i am respectful and kind to them, which takes some practice and i'm not mastered at it, but pretty darn good, can really be good )



and i'm rambling at this point, so i'll wrap it up.


i have no wish to persuade either, because that's pretty much always inimical to spiritual life.


cheers and peace, just chattin', just pointin' out it's simply a random assertion to say something like that.  we're all goin' home. :smile:

you might call that a random assertion too but i'd disagree. it's a carefully examined assertion that has seen to be true time and time again.



and. .. i know, i know there is a bit of silliness in saying - i' don't like to argue or contend with people over anything - and yet do; and i hope you will forgive me in that, and understand this is all meant in friendship, because sometimes ( many times, oftentimes, always? heh. never i'd hope. :smile: )

sometimes despite the deepest intentions to keep a discussion based in friendship, when it's disputing various facts of philosophy or perspective, simply because it's a dispute or debate, occasionally it can inexplicably arise contention, and i don't wish that to be the case.

sincerely :smile:

[ 3-4 typos i left slide because i didn't feel like they interfered with the flow too much ;p ]


by mostly respect i mean everyone has divine potential, and should be pretty much treated equally with respect and kindness - regardless of occasionally personal feelings arising one way or anotehr;

because to say that everyone has divine potential, or that they are divine by nature in their essential form, is also to say they are equally valid in terms of deserving respect and kindness - even those beings that don't seem like they're doing right. . . any human being on the road, i believe an enlightened master would not feel upset to see, but would maintain compassionate awareness, and positive intention towards them, and very likely if not certainly, that loving-kindness and patient, empathic (the correct spelling, positively) demeanor, would avert any hostility and most likely turn the encounter into a mutual beneficial event.


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21794820 - 06/11/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
You are the universe ecperienmcing itself.

Right. :yesnod: But we are all constantly caught in the delusion that we are only the existential form and fail to see ourselves as the ontologically formless also.




So even if you 'get it' you'll still get drug back from pure being into the human drama of suffering again, and again, and again...  Until you shout from roof top HOLY MACARONI once more....  Twas ever thus the S&M forum :wink:




Keep on hollering from the rooftop then. That's sort of what the Hare Krishnas are doing with their tambourines is it not? :shrug: As BE HERE NOW says, 'It'a all the ecstatic moment.' But we can't remain at the peak of Mount Everest for long. It's pristine, ethereal, but rarified and sterile. To remain long is to perish. Moses needs to descend from Mount Sinai, but there it's the moment-to-moment remembrance of The Law that's intended to keep one mindful of God's Presence. The intensity of the peak (symbolized by the syllable OM) must diminish to the plateau of the HUMan heart (HUM), but as Lama Govinda wrote, 'HUM is greater than OM.' 'OM is the Infinite, but HUM is the Infinite IN the finite.' We must endeavor to be aware of Being and existence simultaneously. We are naturally attached to existence, then we have breakthroughs and suddenly it's all an illusion. But eventually we have to 'come down' (from the peak experience) and still live an enlightened existence - bring the Light down from brain to heart. We 'lighten-up,' in the sense of being 'bright' (joyful and intelligent) and in the sense of not being a 'heavy,' (a downer, or a villain). Then we are "in the world but not of the world."

First there is a mountain.
Then there is no mountain.
Then there is. - Donovan


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21799674 - 06/12/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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CosmicJoke said:
Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
You are the universe ecperienmcing itself.

Right. :yesnod: But we are all constantly caught in the delusion that we are only the existential form and fail to see ourselves as the ontologically formless also.




So even if you 'get it' you'll still get drug back from pure being into the human drama of suffering again, and again, and again...  Until you shout from roof top HOLY MACARONI once more....  Twas ever thus the S&M forum :wink:



Haha, yeah that sounds familiar to me.


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: Asante]
    #21799847 - 06/12/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:

You are Eternal.




No, I am not. Thank God. My uplink lasts forever, yes.



Edited by CosmicJoke (06/14/15 03:42 AM)


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: Asante]
    #21800582 - 06/13/15 02:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just saw the thread title in my threads, and now I feel like macaroni n cheese. mmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: Jufin]
    #21801165 - 06/13/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

To me it hurts when anyone says something like that.  (not what you said [nor, of course, was R.M. said])


Oh well.

:laugh: SUN :sunny: :sun:



as a dear dear dear dear dear old drunk hippie shares lovingly - you're on the upward spiral brother!


that is what spirituality is about - sharing the encouraging, the bold, the wonderful truths of our existence, while leaving the rest behind.


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21801190 - 06/13/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

so those who say "you'll get dragged down"

knowing not what they speak of,

are just being random. playful.


probably.


hopefully.


it's not really true - if you learn how to dance and swim, that is, in the whole dance of life and the waters of life - if you truly learn how to - then you'll be lifted up.


It's usually unnecessary to complicate things.

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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: Middleman]
    #21804881 - 06/14/15 03:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Rev. Morton said:
Quote:

Asante said:

You are Eternal.




No, I am not. Thank God. My uplink lasts forever, yes.







Whatever you do, don't trade in your unlimited plan.  They'll try to trick you with their pizazz.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21807165 - 06/14/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I see you hit edit instead of reply, I do that all the time. I'm glad someone around here has a sense of humor. :bobdobbs: It's the only way to go all the way.


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Re: I GET IT. HOLY MACARONI I GET IT [Re: Middleman]
    #21808209 - 06/14/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Holy Macaroni, you Pastafarian, yer right.  I usually can't moderate the S&M forum, is just those off hours when none of you S&M mod mofos are signed in when I can and I mistake edit for reply.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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