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gilrand
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Peyote pupping (last post)
#21791648 - 06/11/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey,
I haven't posted here in YEARS, but now have a question concerning only surviving part of my once small but varied ethnobotanical garden.
I have a single peyote plant which was on my brothers "care" for a year while I was gone. The result was grown but an elongated cacti possibly due to insufficient lightning. Now I was wondering is it possible to make use of this plants suffering to make two!
I am aware that it is possible to take cuttings from new buttons(with quite small callousing area), but is it possible to cut the plant in two horizontally and let the cutting surfaces to callous before planting the upper part in soil?
Thanks in advance,
gilrand
Edited by gilrand (07/04/21 10:50 AM)
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Re: Cutting peyote in half? [Re: gilrand]
#21791678 - 06/11/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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so you already have roots, on both sides? Intresting, but dangerous IMO. you should cut it precisely in between the vascular ring (tube in this case) for all it's lengt to get 2 vascular halfpipes. Not to menntion that the more flesh exposed the more risk for infections, plus , when callousing skin tends to retract so it would bend probably.
Wait for more experienced people for advice ( Intelligentlife comes to my mind)
really intresting approach, as i never thought this way, but again, really difficult to do probably.
You should post a photo.
Edited. Sorry, i just realized you wanted to take a regular cutting. Lophs can be reroot , like when degrafted. It's possible, and depends on how much bit is the cutting you want to take, the bigger the better, as it would survive til it devlops roots.
I would still ask other people what they think about the insane think i wrote in the previous part of this post.
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Edited by Lemnaminor (06/11/15 03:57 AM)
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Re: Cutting peyote in half? [Re: Lemnaminor]
#21791685 - 06/11/15 03:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lemnaminor said: I would still ask other people what they think about the insane think i wrote in the previous part of this post.
Cutting a loph vertically might be useful for grafting, like with TBM.
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kosmokratorshaman
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Id cut as low as you can on the plant leaving a few areoles for pupping
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Do you have a pic?
I'm still not certain what you are intending to do.
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gilrand
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Hey,
I meant cutting the plant in two horizontally approximately from the red line and then keeping the lower part in soil as is and letting upper part to callous and then planting it to soil.

I hope the picture clears it up a bit 
/gilrand
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Re: Cutting peyote in half? [Re: gilrand]
#21793015 - 06/11/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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gilrand said: Hey,
I meant cutting the plant in two horizontally approximately from the red line and then keeping the lower part in soil as is and letting upper part to callous and then planting it to soil.

I hope the picture clears it up a bit 
/gilrand
Poorbaby. But yeah that should work.
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kosmokratorshaman
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that is the weirdest etiolated loph ive ever seen.
Ok, hear me out.
It kind of looks like a snowman. Big ball at the bottom, middle ball, and head.
I would cut the head off below the 2nd side areole. Let the top callous
I would cut the middle off below the 4th side areole. Let the top callous.
I would leave the base to pup on its own roots.
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Re: Cutting peyote in half? [Re: gilrand]
#21793562 - 06/11/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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gilrand said: Hey,
I meant cutting the plant in two horizontally approximately from the red line and then keeping the lower part in soil as is and letting upper part to callous and then planting it to soil.

I hope the picture clears it up a bit 
/gilrand
That is exactly what I would do,and it will work,because I've done it numerous times.
I recently did my only one like that,and the top is now rooted,and the bottom is pushing out a new pup.
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kosmokratorshaman
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I've rooted cuttings smaller than a dime. They can take a year or more to root. I recently had one that is shriveled and purple throw its root after nearly 18 months. Now I have to see how long until it starts greening and growing out of its scab.
So be prepared for the smaller cuttings to take a long time. Keep it in a safe warm, dry spot out of direct light. Mine stayed on dry soil in those little plastic mouthwash cups.
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kosmokratorshaman said: I've rooted cuttings smaller than a dime. They can take a year or more to root. I recently had one that is shriveled and purple throw its root after nearly 18 months. Now I have to see how long until it starts greening and growing out of its scab.
So be prepared for the smaller cuttings to take a long time. Keep it in a safe warm, dry spot out of direct light. Mine stayed on dry soil in those little plastic mouthwash cups.
I have a tiny loph pup that was attached to my main plant that is half the size of a dime,and it rooted fairly quickly.
I almost gave up on it too because it shriveled so much!
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yea, I left my shriveled ones to the side. Took forever.
The larger ones the size of a quarter or so, rooted in a few months.
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Well,I just went outside,and the birds totally went off with mine,I give up
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kosmokratorshaman
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kactus.brand.g said: Well,I just went outside,and the birds totally went off with mine,I give up
Don't give up man. Sorry to hear that it happened. You will come back from this. Also, check around the area, it might have been dropped in the yard nearby.
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kosmokratorshaman said:
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kactus.brand.g said: Well,I just went outside,and the birds totally went off with mine,I give up
Don't give up man. Sorry to hear that it happened. You will come back from this. Also, check around the area, it might have been dropped in the yard nearby.
Thanks man,and I looked all over to no avail
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gilrand
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Thanks for the comments guys!
Do you know any good guide for the cutting and rooting procedures? Like should I water it properly before cutting or let it dry etc.
/gilrand
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Re: Cutting peyote in half? [Re: gilrand]
#21796122 - 06/12/15 05:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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let it dry for a few days. Cut it, let it callous for a few weeks. Plant in dry soil, and don't disturb for a few weeks
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gilrand
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Re: Cutting peyote in half? [Re: gilrand] 1
#27373714 - 07/04/21 08:37 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello guys!
Seems like its been around 6 years from the last post, wow time flies. This is the same guy than in the pics before! It is now around 11 - 12 years old and the main bulb is 6cm wide and 8cm high.
I ended up not cutting it up and just letting it grow. Looks a bit funky still but its still alive and growing. It also flowers all thru the summer, only from the main button tho.
In the last month it has made 4 new pups and I was wondering if its an indication of something? I feel tempted to just let them grow and not cut anyting. One of the pups will be chafing against one of the twin bulbs in no time and thats probably not good and will have to be removed (and rerooted or grafted).
Thanks guys!
//gilrand


Edited by gilrand (07/04/21 10:52 AM)
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Re: Cutting peyote in half? [Re: gilrand]
#27392002 - 07/17/21 11:17 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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good amount of fertilizer? or use superthrive? its a good thing
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