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Strange LSD visual
    #21791290 - 06/11/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So i was having a really terrible trip one time and i closed my eyes and was just praying for it to end, i looked upwards to the point that my eyes could go no further and saw something amazing, that still confuses me to this day.

It was some odd yellow shape, almost like tubes wrapped together and i could see them pulsing.



Now i only saw this for a second but i blew my mind. I felt like i was actually looking at my 3rd eye. For once it was a physical object and i could reach out and grab it if i wanted to.

Anyone else ever see this?

What is your take on this?

Was i just tripping?


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21791962 - 06/11/15 06:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I imagine a mixture of visuals (unfiltered information picked up through your eyes) in combination with eye-muscle strain/interference etc?

Almost like how if you press your eyes down with your palms you'll start to see CEVs...

If you do that tripping it exponentiates -similar thing?


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21791968 - 06/11/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Third eye for sure. Keep focusing and go along with it. Shrooms are better for closed eye imagination visuals iMO. But ueah, don't run away from something so pretty. Keep watching, breathe and relax, let the psychs show you what it wants to show you. It may just be your unconscious brain or "third eye" trying to tell you something special :wink:


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: Heisencybin] * 1
    #21792041 - 06/11/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You should try drawing it


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: twelvelookslikeu]
    #21792376 - 06/11/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have looked for it time and time again on similar doses and cannot find it. But if i were to draw a line from where i was looking to where i saw this, it would be directly in the middle of my forehead.

I have work in a bit here, but i will try to draw it when i get home. I have been meaning to anyway.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117] * 1
    #21795942 - 06/12/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)



So thats basically what i saw.

Maybe a with fewer veins. But it looks very similar to this, and after drawing it, i can picture it quite clearly now. Before, it was just a hazy image.

I like to think i saw my 3rd eye, or exactly what my 3rd eye was seeing at that exact moment. It was only a flash though. 2 seconds tops, then it was gone entirely other than in my memories.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21796000 - 06/12/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Foremost I'd like to say that most visuals on psychedelics are quite weird at times, however; what you saw wasn't more then a symptom of the drug you induced. So yes, you were just tripping. With that said I won't deny that it might have a meaning, this meaning is whichever you give it or take from it. Whether it has a meaning for other people? Most likely not, but that doesn't matter. It was your experience and to you it was entirely real. Nothing will change that.

At least that's my personal view on it.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21796068 - 06/12/15 05:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yup trippy visuals

If you do wanna make more of it you can always find meaning endlessley


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: Elff] * 1
    #21796159 - 06/12/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You are seeing your imagination come to life.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: Heisencybin]
    #21797560 - 06/12/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you guys are more than likely right, but as a man of science, i believe if something can't be proven wrong, then it can't be said to be.

Do any of you guys know what a chakra is supposed to look like?

Or is it one of those things that varies from person to person?

And yes i know what the pineal gland is and looks like. But i believe the chakra is inside this. As opposed to the pineal BEING the chakra.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21797752 - 06/12/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

As a man of science you should rather believe that if something can't be proven true it shouldn't be considered as such. And I would like to think that the possibility of your psychology being subjected to fuckedness by a strong psychedelic drug actually is more scientific than using chakra as an explanation.

But right, who knows.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: Fattiglapp]
    #21798247 - 06/12/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Third eye definitely :smile:

Did you see other colors beside yellow?


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: Fattiglapp]
    #21799908 - 06/12/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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As a man of science you should rather believe that if something can't be proven true it shouldn't be considered as such. And I would like to think that the possibility of your psychology being subjected to fuckedness by a strong psychedelic drug actually is more scientific than using chakra as an explanation.

But right, who knows.




I figured by saying what i did about proving things wrong, covered proving things right as well. I mean who says the glass is half empty and half full? You'd say one or the other and mean both.

I figured the fact that i could have  just been tripping was obvious, and i actually said this, or something similar.

I made this thread to brainstorm other possibilities. My personal theory is chakra, but i also like to  think i may have seen a part of my brain with xray acid vision. Mostly a "just for shits and giggles" thread. But i am really curious.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #21799927 - 06/12/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Third eye definitely :smile:

Did you see other colors beside yellow?




What makes you so sure?

And no, the only color i remember are various shades of yellow, glowing and pulsing surrounded entirely by pitch blackness.

I'm actually probably gonna get a tattoo of this. Whether it means anyhing or not, idk. It looks cool though. And it would serve as a constant reminder that beauty can be found in even the worst moments of our lives.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21799951 - 06/12/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It should also be noted that i have never had CEVs that detailed and profound. I could actually see it there. It wasnt like other things ive seen where i can tell its a hallucination.

My CEVs usually consist of swirling lines and geometric paterns. Never anything that actually looks like a 3D object.

Also, i can barely remember most of my visuals when i open my eyes, but this one is seared into my mind.

I was on 4 tabs, which is relative, i know, but decent cid, id say anywhere from 200-350 ug total.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21799979 - 06/12/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe you saw some energy cluster? Some form of energy?


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21800037 - 06/12/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hadn't thought of that. Could be possible. I need to look into this more


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21800106 - 06/12/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

One of the properties of LSD that I find most fascinating is it's ability to enhance one's perception of dimensions, mapping around objects with greater detail. This can even cause visuals to manifest three-dimensionally, becoming more like objects than flat shapes. I suspect what you saw may be your brain rendering visuals in higher dimensions, in the form of a Calabi-Yau manifold, essentially a hyper-dimensional Mobius strip. I personally have never gotten visuals like this, but I've always suspected that they were possible. If so, LSD may be a useful tool in understanding string theory more clearly.

Here's a picture of a cross sectioned Calabi-Yau manifold for comparison:



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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: Starless]
    #21800195 - 06/12/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, very similar. Only difference being that what i saw was yellow, and looked like veins of flesh. Picture a part of the human brain. And it looked kinda like that. Just thicker veins.

Could you please explain how this connects with string theory? Or link me something that explains it?.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21800261 - 06/13/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Wow, very similar. Only difference being that what i saw was yellow, and looked like veins of flesh. Picture a part of the human brain. And it looked kinda like that. Just thicker veins.

Could you please explain how this connects with string theory? Or link me something that explains it?.




The picture I posted is simply for illustrative purposes, It's shape and color are arbitrary.

M theory, the leading form of string theory, posits 11 dimensions: 3 macroscopic spacial dimensions (X,Y, and Z coordinates), 1 temporal dimension (time), and 7 extra spacial dimensions that are folded up so tightly in spacetime that they are only perceivable on the smallest of scales.

Higher dimensional objects manifest in the four dimensional membrane of our universe in the same way that a one dimensional line, when seen from it's end, looks like a zero dimensional point. Another analogy would be a three dimensional cube looking like a two dimensional square when seen from any side.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: Starless]
    #21800319 - 06/13/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I will admit that i am a bit ignorant on string theory haha. But i do understand the concept and have the capacity to understand it through research. Which i will now be conducting.

I understand what you just said, but what i don't understand is how this connects to what i saw.

Are you saying that i possibly saw one of these higher dimensional objects through lsd?

Could you please put this in laymens terms? I understand the terminology, i just dont't fully understand the theory.

I don't expect you to explain string theory, just how this all connects, so when i come across this in research, i will make the connection myself


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117] * 1
    #21800383 - 06/13/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I will admit that i am a bit ignorant on string theory haha. But i do understand the concept and have the capacity to understand it through research. Which i will now be conducting.

I understand what you just said, but what i don't understand is how this connects to what i saw.

Are you saying that i possibly saw one of these higher dimensional objects through lsd?

Could you please put this in laymens terms? I understand the terminology, i just dont't fully understand the theory.

I don't expect you to explain string theory, just how this all connects, so when i come across this in research, i will make the connection myself




I'm not trying to imply that what you saw was real, just that your brain generated visuals with a more complex dimensional framework than it uses to generate everyday reality. These concepts are so foreign to what our brains are used to processing that even if we can conceptualize them, a deeper and more practical understanding can be elusive. That is where I believe substances such as LSD may be very useful if used properly.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: Starless]
    #21800430 - 06/13/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not trying to imply that it was real either haha. But that depends how you define "real".

My eyeys were closed, meaning no light is visible (the room was completely dark) anything "real" can only be seen by human eyes if light is cast upon it.

So by this logic, it couldn't possibly be real by normal concepts.

This doesn't mean it doesn't EXIST though.

There are many things that we can't see that are perfectly real, air, atoms, etc.

But what if i wasn't percieving with my eyes? What if my eyes were just used as a tool to percieve an idea.

I really appreciate the fact that you brought multi-dimensional concepts into my frame of thought. This is exactly what i had hoped for from this thread.

The fact that this has stuck with me in such a way, (this happened at least a month before i posted this) leads me to believe that it has some form of relevance. At least in my life.

Most things that i see or experience on lsd are quickly forgoten, other than a hazy memory. But this persists. To the point that i could draw it quite clearly. I couldn't do that with other acid visuals if i tried.

I think about this nearly every day.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21802760 - 06/13/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've seen a yellow 'brain' CEV before.  I'm not sure what the meaning was but it proceeded a rebirthing experience.  I've also seen yellow show up as false pride or codependence in other visions.

Chakra colors vary based on the tradition.  The third eye is usually presented using indigo and the navel chakra using yellow.  The navel chakra tends to govern "personal power, fear, anxiety, opinion-formation, introversion, and transition from simple or base emotions to complex."

Seems about right to me.

Anyway trust your intuition.  There's a number of traditions and approaches and it's up to you to figure out what resonates.  When you find something that does take what you like but don't take it to the point of dogma.

I also like to write my visions down.  Sorta like keeping a dream journal.  Some things take a long time to integrate and only make sense after something else has been resolved.  Putting it on paper frees up mental space for other things in the meantime.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #21804322 - 06/13/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've seen a yellow 'brain' CEV before.  I'm not sure what the meaning was but it proceeded a rebirthing experience.  I've also seen yellow show up as false pride or codependence in other visions.

Chakra colors vary based on the tradition.  The third eye is usually presented using indigo and the navel chakra using yellow.  The navel chakra tends to govern "personal power, fear, anxiety, opinion-formation, introversion, and transition from simple or base emotions to complex."

Seems about right to me.

Anyway trust your intuition.  There's a number of traditions and approaches and it's up to you to figure out what resonates.  When you find something that does take what you like but don't take it to the point of dogma.

I also like to write my visions down.  Sorta like keeping a dream journal.  Some things take a long time to integrate and only make sense after something else has been resolved.  Putting it on paper frees up mental space for other things in the meantime.




Interesting, i happen to be extremely introverted, not sure if that has anything to do with my vision, but it takes me quite a bit of time to feel comfortable around people.

what is the difference between the 2 chakras you named?


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21804873 - 06/14/15 03:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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This doesn't mean it doesn't EXIST though.

There are many things that we can't see that are perfectly real, air, atoms, etc.

But what if i wasn't percieving with my eyes? What if my eyes were just used as a tool to percieve an idea.

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But it sure does, it's the same as dreaming really.


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21805462 - 06/14/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Interesting, i happen to be extremely introverted, not sure if that has anything to do with my vision, but it takes me quite a bit of time to feel comfortable around people.

what is the difference between the 2 chakras you named?




This is stuff copied from wikipedia.  As I mentioned in my previous post this can vary a lot depending on tradition and I suggest using your own intuition as a guide.

The third eye chakra, Ajna, which translates into command, tends to represent harmony within duality (similar concept to yin/yang), clarity, and intuition.  It also deals with mental consciousness such as dream states.

The solar plexus chakra, Manipura, which translates into jewel city, is considered the center of dynamism, energy, will power and achievement, which radiates prana throughout the entire human body. It is associated with the power of fire and digestion, as well as with the sense of sight and the action of movement. Manipura is "the center of etheric-psychic intuition: a vague or non-specific, sensual sense of knowing; a vague sense of size, shape, and intent of being."


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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #21807022 - 06/14/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A lot of my thoughts and visions are dream like on acid. So i can see where you draw that conclusion.

But what i meant was that just because it may not be a physical object in the way i saw it, this doesnt mean its not real.

"Real" is a very complex thing, i feel a lot of people don't realize this. If something scares me, the fear is very real, but if you see me scared you don't see the fear, and may think that i am faking it, or over reacting. So the fear wouldn't be real to you. Real really relates relatively.

A deception of your perception if you will.

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Interesting, i happen to be extremely introverted, not sure if that has anything to do with my vision, but it takes me quite a bit of time to feel comfortable around people.

what is the difference between the 2 chakras you named?




This is stuff copied from wikipedia.  As I mentioned in my previous post this can vary a lot depending on tradition and I suggest using your own intuition as a guide.

The third eye chakra, Ajna, which translates into command, tends to represent harmony within duality (similar concept to yin/yang), clarity, and intuition.  It also deals with mental consciousness such as dream states.

The solar plexus chakra, Manipura, which translates into jewel city, is considered the center of dynamism, energy, will power and achievement, which radiates prana throughout the entire human body. It is associated with the power of fire and digestion, as well as with the sense of sight and the action of movement. Manipura is "the center of etheric-psychic intuition: a vague or non-specific, sensual sense of knowing; a vague sense of size, shape, and intent of being."




Thanks for the info man. Obviously if you found this on wiki, you know i haven't looked into it.

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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117]
    #21809854 - 06/15/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No problem.  I'm really interested in this stuff myself so I didn't mind digging a bit :smile:


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It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley


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