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thehoff117
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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: Starless]
#21800319 - 06/13/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I will admit that i am a bit ignorant on string theory haha. But i do understand the concept and have the capacity to understand it through research. Which i will now be conducting.
I understand what you just said, but what i don't understand is how this connects to what i saw.
Are you saying that i possibly saw one of these higher dimensional objects through lsd?
Could you please put this in laymens terms? I understand the terminology, i just dont't fully understand the theory.
I don't expect you to explain string theory, just how this all connects, so when i come across this in research, i will make the connection myself
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Starless
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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: thehoff117] 1
#21800383 - 06/13/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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thehoff117 said: I will admit that i am a bit ignorant on string theory haha. But i do understand the concept and have the capacity to understand it through research. Which i will now be conducting.
I understand what you just said, but what i don't understand is how this connects to what i saw.
Are you saying that i possibly saw one of these higher dimensional objects through lsd?
Could you please put this in laymens terms? I understand the terminology, i just dont't fully understand the theory.
I don't expect you to explain string theory, just how this all connects, so when i come across this in research, i will make the connection myself
I'm not trying to imply that what you saw was real, just that your brain generated visuals with a more complex dimensional framework than it uses to generate everyday reality. These concepts are so foreign to what our brains are used to processing that even if we can conceptualize them, a deeper and more practical understanding can be elusive. That is where I believe substances such as LSD may be very useful if used properly.
-------------------- Think, it ain't illegal yet. - George Clinton Substances I have allegedly taken: Cannabis (bud, edibles, and concentrates), Mushrooms (P. Cubensis), LSD, ETH-LAD, ALD-52, DMT, MDMA, Mescaline (Peruvian Torch), 25I-NBOMe, Salvia Divinorum (10x), Syrian Rue, Amanita Muscaria (10x), Cocaine, Nightshade (Henbane). All posts are hypothetical or entirely fictional.
Edited by Starless (06/13/15 01:10 AM)
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thehoff117
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Re: Strange LSD visual [Re: Starless]
#21800430 - 06/13/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not trying to imply that it was real either haha. But that depends how you define "real".
My eyeys were closed, meaning no light is visible (the room was completely dark) anything "real" can only be seen by human eyes if light is cast upon it.
So by this logic, it couldn't possibly be real by normal concepts.
This doesn't mean it doesn't EXIST though.
There are many things that we can't see that are perfectly real, air, atoms, etc.
But what if i wasn't percieving with my eyes? What if my eyes were just used as a tool to percieve an idea.
I really appreciate the fact that you brought multi-dimensional concepts into my frame of thought. This is exactly what i had hoped for from this thread.
The fact that this has stuck with me in such a way, (this happened at least a month before i posted this) leads me to believe that it has some form of relevance. At least in my life.
Most things that i see or experience on lsd are quickly forgoten, other than a hazy memory. But this persists. To the point that i could draw it quite clearly. I couldn't do that with other acid visuals if i tried.
I think about this nearly every day.
-------------------- "You can't double acid and only expect to trip twice as hard" "Tripping is simply a deception of your perception" "Real Really Relates Relatively"
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paperbackwriter
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I've seen a yellow 'brain' CEV before. I'm not sure what the meaning was but it proceeded a rebirthing experience. I've also seen yellow show up as false pride or codependence in other visions.
Chakra colors vary based on the tradition. The third eye is usually presented using indigo and the navel chakra using yellow. The navel chakra tends to govern "personal power, fear, anxiety, opinion-formation, introversion, and transition from simple or base emotions to complex."
Seems about right to me.
Anyway trust your intuition. There's a number of traditions and approaches and it's up to you to figure out what resonates. When you find something that does take what you like but don't take it to the point of dogma.
I also like to write my visions down. Sorta like keeping a dream journal. Some things take a long time to integrate and only make sense after something else has been resolved. Putting it on paper frees up mental space for other things in the meantime.
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thehoff117
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paperbackwriter said: I've seen a yellow 'brain' CEV before. I'm not sure what the meaning was but it proceeded a rebirthing experience. I've also seen yellow show up as false pride or codependence in other visions.
Chakra colors vary based on the tradition. The third eye is usually presented using indigo and the navel chakra using yellow. The navel chakra tends to govern "personal power, fear, anxiety, opinion-formation, introversion, and transition from simple or base emotions to complex."
Seems about right to me.
Anyway trust your intuition. There's a number of traditions and approaches and it's up to you to figure out what resonates. When you find something that does take what you like but don't take it to the point of dogma.
I also like to write my visions down. Sorta like keeping a dream journal. Some things take a long time to integrate and only make sense after something else has been resolved. Putting it on paper frees up mental space for other things in the meantime.
Interesting, i happen to be extremely introverted, not sure if that has anything to do with my vision, but it takes me quite a bit of time to feel comfortable around people.
what is the difference between the 2 chakras you named?
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thehoff117 said: This doesn't mean it doesn't EXIST though.
There are many things that we can't see that are perfectly real, air, atoms, etc.
But what if i wasn't percieving with my eyes? What if my eyes were just used as a tool to percieve an idea.
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But it sure does, it's the same as dreaming really.
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paperbackwriter
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thehoff117 said: Interesting, i happen to be extremely introverted, not sure if that has anything to do with my vision, but it takes me quite a bit of time to feel comfortable around people.
what is the difference between the 2 chakras you named?
This is stuff copied from wikipedia. As I mentioned in my previous post this can vary a lot depending on tradition and I suggest using your own intuition as a guide.
The third eye chakra, Ajna, which translates into command, tends to represent harmony within duality (similar concept to yin/yang), clarity, and intuition. It also deals with mental consciousness such as dream states.
The solar plexus chakra, Manipura, which translates into jewel city, is considered the center of dynamism, energy, will power and achievement, which radiates prana throughout the entire human body. It is associated with the power of fire and digestion, as well as with the sense of sight and the action of movement. Manipura is "the center of etheric-psychic intuition: a vague or non-specific, sensual sense of knowing; a vague sense of size, shape, and intent of being."
-------------------- Why should we strive with cynic frown To knock their fairy castles down? ~ Eliza Cook It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley
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thehoff117
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A lot of my thoughts and visions are dream like on acid. So i can see where you draw that conclusion.
But what i meant was that just because it may not be a physical object in the way i saw it, this doesnt mean its not real.
"Real" is a very complex thing, i feel a lot of people don't realize this. If something scares me, the fear is very real, but if you see me scared you don't see the fear, and may think that i am faking it, or over reacting. So the fear wouldn't be real to you. Real really relates relatively.
A deception of your perception if you will.
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thehoff117 said: Interesting, i happen to be extremely introverted, not sure if that has anything to do with my vision, but it takes me quite a bit of time to feel comfortable around people.
what is the difference between the 2 chakras you named?
This is stuff copied from wikipedia. As I mentioned in my previous post this can vary a lot depending on tradition and I suggest using your own intuition as a guide.
The third eye chakra, Ajna, which translates into command, tends to represent harmony within duality (similar concept to yin/yang), clarity, and intuition. It also deals with mental consciousness such as dream states.
The solar plexus chakra, Manipura, which translates into jewel city, is considered the center of dynamism, energy, will power and achievement, which radiates prana throughout the entire human body. It is associated with the power of fire and digestion, as well as with the sense of sight and the action of movement. Manipura is "the center of etheric-psychic intuition: a vague or non-specific, sensual sense of knowing; a vague sense of size, shape, and intent of being."
Thanks for the info man. Obviously if you found this on wiki, you know i haven't looked into it.
Been working 8 days straight.
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paperbackwriter
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No problem. I'm really interested in this stuff myself so I didn't mind digging a bit
-------------------- Why should we strive with cynic frown To knock their fairy castles down? ~ Eliza Cook It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley
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