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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Asante]
    #21809639 - 06/15/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So show your math. I acknowledge my math skills are quite rusty.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21809642 - 06/15/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Using Wikipedia's numbers for 2014:

Police killings = 623

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_2014

US population  = 318,000,000

Percentage of population killed = 0.0000001959





Thats the US population killed in ONE YEAR not lifetime.

You said however:

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In 2008 the population of the US was 304,000,000.

Percent killed by police?

0.000000007565





Notice a slight discreprancy in the number of zeroes behind the dot?

Don't try to slip a quicky past me. I can read back and read your words closely because I take you seriously.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Asante]
    #21809649 - 06/15/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Asante said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
Using Wikipedia's numbers for 2014:

Police killings = 623

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_2014

US population  = 318,000,000

Percentage of population killed = 0.0000001959





Thats the US population killed in ONE YEAR not lifetime.

You said however:

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
In 2008 the population of the US was 304,000,000.

Percent killed by police?

0.000000007565





Notice a slight discreprancy in the number of zeroes behind the dot?

Don't try to slip a quicky past me. I can read back and read your words closely because I take you seriously.





Like I said, my math skills are quite rusty. So lets accept your numbers, shall we?

23 out of 308,000,000 is not a number for great concern by rational people.

As for "slip a quicky", grow up. I already said my math skills are rusty.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21809658 - 06/15/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Of course, I'm still waiting to see your numbers.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21809667 - 06/15/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

While your doing your numbers kindly note that in quoting my posts you've included 2008 and 2014.

Perhaps you give your reading abilities too much credit. Or are you trying to "slip a quicky"?


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21809675 - 06/15/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Umm.. theres hundreds of people killed by the cops each year. I read somewhere it was over 900 in a recent year and is on the increase. You said over 600.

Theres three hundred and umph million people in the US so thats 2-3 people per million, or about 1 in 300,000-500,000 annually.

Lets take your number, six hundred and umph so two in a million.

Thats 0.0002%

See that? No calculator just my head and a number that is mindblowingly larger than either number you came up with.

Your math was wrong, my initial math was wrong too, its even way bigger bullshit than a thousandfold off the mark.

No offense :hug:


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Asante]
    #21809720 - 06/15/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Actually, you got me to re-figure.

308,000,000 population in 2008.
23 killed by police.
308,000,000 - 0.0000075% = 23.1

318,000,000 population in 2014.
623 killed by police.
318,000,000 - 0.000196% = 623.28

Not exact math, but close enough.

Still the numbers are miniscule.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Asante]
    #21809728 - 06/15/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Umm.. theres hundreds of people killed by the cops each year. I read somewhere it was over 900 in a recent year and is on the increase.




Wikipedia says 623. That's nowhere near "over 900"


Quote:

You said over 600.




No, Wikipedia did. The link was provided previously but here it is again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_2014


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21809970 - 06/15/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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Asante said:
You pulled that out of your ass, recalculate that




I pulled it out of a calculator. If there's a math error, kindly demonstrate it.

23 killed of a population of 308,000,000


As for your link... so what? We've had very few terrorist attacks and millions of police interactions. And of those killed by police, most were deemed justifiable.




Where do you get these absurd numbers? There have been nearly 10,000 people killed by police in the past decade. The official number s over 3000 and that only includes killings actually reported to the FBI. A majority of police departments do not report to the FBI.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
    #21809989 - 06/15/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
Where do you get these absurd numbers?.




I posted the links. How is it you are unable to use them?


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21809990 - 06/15/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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2008 police killings = 23




Quote:

Using Wikipedia's numbers for 2014:

Police killings = 623




isn't that an increase of 2708%?


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810914 - 06/15/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Asante said:
Umm.. theres hundreds of people killed by the cops each year. I read somewhere it was over 900 in a recent year and is on the increase.




Wikipedia says 623. That's nowhere near "over 900"


Quote:

You said over 600.




No, Wikipedia did. The link was provided previously but here it is again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_2014





I see 1104 names here just for 2014 Go ahead and count em and check the references.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Asante]
    #21810939 - 06/15/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Asante said:
Umm.. theres hundreds of people killed by the cops each year. I read somewhere it was over 900 in a recent year and is on the increase.




Wikipedia says 623. That's nowhere near "over 900"


Quote:

You said over 600.




No, Wikipedia did. The link was provided previously but here it is again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_2014





I see 1104 names here just for 2014 Go ahead and count em and check the references.




Oh no! Two different sources have two different numbers!

Someone who isn't afraid of them should call the police to report this heinous crime against humanity.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21810967 - 06/15/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Your jokes arent deflecting attention away from the fact that you at first said 23. Thats how many the cops kill in a week.

Saying 23 for a year is a severe disconnect from reality. Not to mention an initial percentage of police kills smaller than the number of people on the planet.

Your math is severely off. Whatever you are in this discussion for, its not for the facts.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Asante]
    #21811008 - 06/15/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What about thousands of the violent assaults, robbery, rapes, and murders in US cities?    That's where the real shit goes down.  Lets just talk about bad cops and ignore the 99.9% of violent acts.

http://lawstreetmedia.com/fbi-uniform-crime-report-2013/


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    #21811093 - 06/15/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The cops are giving the criminals a good run for their money.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: qman]
    #21811140 - 06/15/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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qman said:
What about thousands of the violent assaults, robbery, rapes, and murders in US cities?    That's where the real shit goes down.  Lets just talk about bad cops and ignore the 99.9% of violent acts.

http://lawstreetmedia.com/fbi-uniform-crime-report-2013/




This would be like me trying to justify rape by saying it happens all the time.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Asante]
    #21811155 - 06/15/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
Your jokes arent deflecting attention away from the fact that you at first said 23. Thats how many the cops kill in a week.

Saying 23 for a year is a severe disconnect from reality. Not to mention an initial percentage of police kills smaller than the number of people on the planet.

Your math is severely off. Whatever you are in this discussion for, its not for the facts.




:lmafo:
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The site I linked to said 23. Get over it. I already said my math sucked and provided correct numbers when it was pointed out.

Being disingenuous won't help you in any way.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21811179 - 06/15/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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qman said:
What about thousands of the violent assaults, robbery, rapes, and murders in US cities?    That's where the real shit goes down.  Lets just talk about bad cops and ignore the 99.9% of violent acts.

http://lawstreetmedia.com/fbi-uniform-crime-report-2013/




This would be like me trying to justify rape by saying it happens all the time.




No, it's acknowledging the fact that the vast majority of violent acts are not committed by cops, it's called putting the debate into a proper perspective.  Guess who kills blacks more than any other demographic?  Black males.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: qman]
    #21811184 - 06/15/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Guess whose job it actually is to uphold the law? Cops.


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