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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21800312 - 06/13/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

exactly. if trained killers can be expected to do everything else before shooting a civilian,and fire a warning shot, and try for disabling shots when they do open fire, why shouldn't police be able to do the same?

nice edit.
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you need the cops to stand around with
rifles strapped on and at the ready




wait, what? soldiers arent even supposed to have a round chambered when their just standing around.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21800364 - 06/13/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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well guys, i'm way late to the party, but i wanted to respond to the OP.







this isn't a bad idea.  i mean, if it's good enough for the U.S. armed forces in Iraq, its good enough for the local PD right?




Seriously, they never shot anyone. In a war.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
    #21800369 - 06/13/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

After the girl has came, cops are allowed to shoot. :standingby:


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21800377 - 06/13/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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luvdemboomers said:
Put a "civilian" (not a cop) in the shoes of the police in many of these controversial shootings and they would be getting locked up for murder.





that's bullshit, zimmerman was one of many hundreds if not thousands of cases
each year in which an civilian shoots an unarmed civilian, it's not plastered
all over the news in most instances, the few that make it are the ones in which
the media is pushing the anti gun agenda and when they're trying to push the
race agenda. it's all about creating  the drama that keeps people clicking the
links, that's how they're making money. news papers are all but gone and more
of these media outlets are moving to pay content to increase the cashflow



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My outrage is about the police being held unaccountable for actions that would have me being fed to the birds.





just because you dont want to believe they are being held accountable doesnt
mean you're right, the majority of shootings by cops are justified, sure there
are some that are questionable but you and I dont see what the investigators,
prosecutors, grand juries, juries and judges see, we have to rely on what the
media is telling us, we have to rely on the likes of shroomism and koods to
tell us that the cops are evil pieces of shit that murder everyone with impunity




Bullshit, there are plenty of news reports describing what prosecutors see... They see pressure from the police not to investigate thoroughly, not to question the actions and not to prosecute. When cops don't cooperate, prosecutor's cases fall apart.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
    #21800384 - 06/13/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What it comes down to is there is a better way to do policing. Somebody needs to start making it happen.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
    #21800396 - 06/13/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

luvdemboomers said:
Put a "civilian" (not a cop) in the shoes of the police in many of these controversial shootings and they would be getting locked up for murder.





that's bullshit, zimmerman was one of many hundreds if not thousands of cases
each year in which an civilian shoots an unarmed civilian, it's not plastered
all over the news in most instances, the few that make it are the ones in which
the media is pushing the anti gun agenda and when they're trying to push the
race agenda. it's all about creating  the drama that keeps people clicking the
links, that's how they're making money. news papers are all but gone and more
of these media outlets are moving to pay content to increase the cashflow



Quote:

My outrage is about the police being held unaccountable for actions that would have me being fed to the birds.





just because you dont want to believe they are being held accountable doesnt
mean you're right, the majority of shootings by cops are justified, sure there
are some that are questionable but you and I dont see what the investigators,
prosecutors, grand juries, juries and judges see, we have to rely on what the
media is telling us, we have to rely on the likes of shroomism and koods to
tell us that the cops are evil pieces of shit that murder everyone with impunity




Bullshit, there are plenty of news reports describing what prosecutors see...






do they publish all the evidence in the news paper, maybe you shouldnt try to mislead people


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
    #21800404 - 06/13/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
What it comes down to is there is a better way to do policing. Somebody needs to start making it happen.





you plan on standing around with your thumb up your ass? Sheriff is an elected
position AND you get to call the shots, just think how many lives you could save
by telling cops not to carry guns when they serve warrants. marshmallows and
cotton balls are the only weapons at their disposal. no more drug raids

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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
    #21800485 - 06/13/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
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ballsalsa said:
well guys, i'm way late to the party, but i wanted to respond to the OP.







this isn't a bad idea.  i mean, if it's good enough for the U.S. armed forces in Iraq, its good enough for the local PD right?




Seriously, they never shot anyone. In a war.




he's talking about "local nationals" not "enemy combatants" (civilians, not soldiers)
the real point here is that warning shots work


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21800563 - 06/13/15 02:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ballsalsa said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

ballsalsa said:
well guys, i'm way late to the party, but i wanted to respond to the OP.







this isn't a bad idea.  i mean, if it's good enough for the U.S. armed forces in Iraq, its good enough for the local PD right?




Seriously, they never shot anyone. In a war.




he's talking about "local nationals" not "enemy combatants" (civilians, not soldiers)
the real point here is that warning shots work





how well did that work for micheal brown?


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21801479 - 06/13/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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how well did that work for micheal brown?




warning shots aren't aimed at the suspect...
i'm having trouble finding an account of officer wilson firing a warning shot of any kind, so maybe you could help me out with a source on that?


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21801702 - 06/13/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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ballsalsa said:
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how well did that work for micheal brown?




warning shots aren't aimed at the suspect...
i'm having trouble finding an account of officer wilson firing a warning shot of any kind, so maybe you could help me out with a source on that?





a shot to the hand is a pretty serious warning, sent him packing until he changed his mind and started charging at the cop


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21801994 - 06/13/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Pris: I never said they weren't justified


If some nog assaulted me and then ran away and i dumped a magazine in his back from 30 feet away I'd be doing multiple life sentences for a hate crime

Or a more common circumstance for police shootings where a car is heading towards a cop (at a relatively low speed) and the cop dumps a mag into the driver instead of getting out of the way


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21802129 - 06/13/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Pris: I never said they weren't justified


If some nog assaulted me and then ran away and i dumped a magazine in his back from 30 feet away I'd be doing multiple life sentences for a hate crime

Or a more common circumstance for police shootings where a car is heading towards a cop (at a relatively low speed) and the cop dumps a mag into the driver instead of getting out of the way




That's not a "common circumstance" for police shootings.  If someone is trying to inflict bodily harm with their vehicle, what do you think should be done?  I'm not saying firing a gun is the right response, but in some circumstances it would be justified.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: qman]
    #21802147 - 06/13/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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qman said:
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luvdemboomers said:
Pris: I never said they weren't justified


If some nog assaulted me and then ran away and i dumped a magazine in his back from 30 feet away I'd be doing multiple life sentences for a hate crime

Or a more common circumstance for police shootings where a car is heading towards a cop (at a relatively low speed) and the cop dumps a mag into the driver instead of getting out of the way




That's not a "common circumstance" for police shootings.  If someone is trying to inflict bodily harm with their vehicle, what do you think should be done?  I'm not saying firing a gun is the right response, but in some circumstances it would be justified.



I am not disagreeing with that. I am just saying that police get a away with a lot of stuff that would not be considered justifyable force for a regular person.
I think those types of shootings are relatively common. Definitely morose than getting shot in the back.

It's also not uncommon for unarmed people to get shot... good luck explaining that to a jury unless the guy was giving you a serious beating.

Police get away with shit I'd be facing a manslaughter or murder charge for all the fucking time.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21802403 - 06/13/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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because british police have no guns, they have to wait for armed officers to
arrive while the death toll rises,




:fatfear:


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #21804964 - 06/14/15 04:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
because british police have no guns, they have to wait for armed officers to
arrive while the death toll rises,




:fatfear:




Yeah, yet somehow here in the US the death toll rises twice as fast.


I just read that NYC has paid out over a billion dollars for police misconduct lawsuits in the past five years. How anyone can sit back and not believe this is a crisis?


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
    #21805720 - 06/14/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-arrests-decline-20150613-story.html?track=rss#page=1

What other employees would be allowed to get away with not doing their jobs because their feelings got hurt. Cops act like entitled children.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21806437 - 06/14/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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luvdemboomers said:
Pris: I never said they weren't justified


If some nog assaulted me and then ran away and i dumped a magazine in his back from 30 feet away I'd be doing multiple life sentences for a hate crime




who was shot in the back from 30 feet away?


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
    #21806438 - 06/14/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Mad_Larkin said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
because british police have no guns, they have to wait for armed officers to
arrive while the death toll rises,




:fatfear:




Yeah, yet somehow here in the US the death toll rises twice as fast.


I just read that NYC has paid out over a billion dollars for police misconduct lawsuits in the past five years. How anyone can sit back and not believe this is a crisis?





is it because the US reports every homicide as a homicide while the brits dont
list justifiable killings as homicide... number juggling, FTW


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    #21806446 - 06/14/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-arrests-decline-20150613-story.html?track=rss#page=1

What other employees would be allowed to get away with not doing their jobs because their feelings got hurt. Cops act like entitled children.






MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MINDS, DO YOU WANT LESS POLICE INTERVENTIONS INTO
EVERYDAY LIFE OR MORE, YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.


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