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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
#21795690 - 06/12/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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They cited problems caused by the decriminalization of marijuana in states like Colorado
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Beanhead]
#21795706 - 06/12/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Beanhead said: When they're being shot at.
It absolutely sickens me when people on the shroomery think police should only fire their weapons if they are already being shot at or being attacked. If I were a cop going into crazy situations every day I would not hesitate to pull the trigger the moment I felt my life was in danger. Whether that be someone not obeying my commands or someone reaching in their pockets to grab something.
If you are not retarded and encounter the police you should be safe pretty much every single time. There are a few off cases here and there and that is the same for every country because police are not perfect either, however I give them major props for putting their lives in danger every day and dying on the job and receiving all this back lash from people typing on their keyboards who have never lived the life of a police officer.
A lot of people here are frankly major pussies who would never consider risking their lives for other people. Guess what, cops do that every day and are not willing to be passive and get shot at multiple times before attacking.
I get it, you hate the drug laws but the police do not make those laws they enforce them. The cop hating here is so fucking toxic and if you guys really are enlightened and open minded you would realize they are doing the job the way they were trained to do it and hundreds die every year to protect you. You never here about the dead cops who are selfless in their actions to enforce laws to make our society a better place. They have families too and it sickens me that I have read so many people here straight up wish death upon them.
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21795780 - 06/12/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said:
If you are not retarded and encounter the police you should be safe pretty much every single time.
You live in Canada. The police there are different than in america
Out here, something as simple and seemingly friendly as waving at a cop can get you hassled
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: MilkdudTitties]
#21795801 - 06/12/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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UNJUSTIFIED black man sits motionless in his car having a STROKE, gets tazed and peppersprayed profusely, threatened with gettinmg shot for being slow in getting out of his car.
Speaking of unjustified...
This shows and tells whats wrong. Pay attention to the lyrics and look how EASY it is to make a four minute video compiled of grossly excessive police brutality.
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: JayZ Morgan]
#21796057 - 06/12/15 04:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#21796489 - 06/12/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Police in Britain have fatally shot two people in the past three years. That’s less than the average number of people shot and killed by police every day in the United States.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/in-lightly-armed-britain-possible-answers-to-americas-wave-of-police-killings/2015/06/10/4940f696-0def-11e5-a0fe-dccfea4653ee_story.html
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LONDON — To join the few and the proud who police Britain’s streets with a gun, first you have to walk the beat unarmed for years.
Then there is the rigorous selection process — an unforgiving complement of fitness tests, psychological appraisals and marksmanship exams. Finally, there is the training, which involves endless drilling on even the most routine scenarios.
Sounds like a plan.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Artex]
#21796662 - 06/12/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Artex said: I will preface this by stating that I worked around police for about 18 months. I did not work in the office with them, but interacted with them regularly via the IT program I was an intern for. My boss was a former police officer that switched careers after getting sick of seeing the "worst of society - day after day." He warned me on day one not to get too opinionated with anything I heard officers say, and to try to understand how jaded they were, dealing with angry and upset people all day long.
So police are trained to escalate one level for the situation. If the suspect is using fists, the police use a baton. If the suspect has a knife, the police draw their weapon. If the suspect has a gun, the police may open fire.
Police are also trained in unarmed combat.
I'll only go after this load of horse shit because the rest is nonsense about enlightenment and claims from some nutter so screw that.
cops arent trained to escalate only one level, that's complete bullshit, cop are trained to stay alive, they're trained to use reasonable, justifiable force which means that if you pull a weapon or attack them then they will escalate it to the point that they avoid injury or death, that means if you pull a screwdriver then they pull a gun and shoot you if that need arises. cops are trained in a very basic self defense, just like soldier are, they arent trained in unarmed or armed combat, that's years of training, anyone in martial arts will tell you that
cops have the exact same rights when it comes to self defense that you and I do, if someone attacks us and we have reasonable belief that we could suffer bodily harm or death, we are allowed to use lethal force, if someone is making a credible threat such as claiming they'll stab you while they're wielding a weapon, again, we have the right to use lethal force and this shit is no different than it is for the cops, why the fuck people think cops should be held to a higher standard than what the average citizen is in the defense of their own lives is beyond me
now why is it that everyone here is allowed to defend themselves but most here say that the cops shouldnt have that same right, I ask this question in some form or another in every one of these threads and to date, I have not received a single answer to that question from the 'anti-brutality' bunch
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
#21796712 - 06/12/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Police in Britain have fatally shot two people in the past three years. That’s less than the average number of people shot and killed by police every day in the United States.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/in-lightly-armed-britain-possible-answers-to-americas-wave-of-police-killings/2015/06/10/4940f696-0def-11e5-a0fe-dccfea4653ee_story.html
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LONDON — To join the few and the proud who police Britain’s streets with a gun, first you have to walk the beat unarmed for years.
Then there is the rigorous selection process — an unforgiving complement of fitness tests, psychological appraisals and marksmanship exams. Finally, there is the training, which involves endless drilling on even the most routine scenarios.
Sounds like a plan.
you should join the PD and show them how it's done
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#21796723 - 06/12/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why do British police kill people at a rate hundreds of times lower than American police?
Answer: American police are trigger happy idiot pussies.
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
#21796738 - 06/12/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: MilkdudTitties]
#21796743 - 06/12/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said:
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Beanhead said: When they're being shot at.
It absolutely sickens me when people on the shroomery think police should only fire their weapons if they are already being shot at or being attacked. If I were a cop going into crazy situations every day I would not hesitate to pull the trigger the moment I felt my life was in danger. Whether that be someone not obeying my commands or someone reaching in their pockets to grab something.
If you are not retarded and encounter the police you should be safe pretty much every single time. There are a few off cases here and there and that is the same for every country because police are not perfect either, however I give them major props for putting their lives in danger every day and dying on the job and receiving all this back lash from people typing on their keyboards who have never lived the life of a police officer.
A lot of people here are frankly major pussies who would never consider risking their lives for other people. Guess what, cops do that every day and are not willing to be passive and get shot at multiple times before attacking.
I get it, you hate the drug laws but the police do not make those laws they enforce them. The cop hating here is so fucking toxic and if you guys really are enlightened and open minded you would realize they are doing the job the way they were trained to do it and hundreds die every year to protect you. You never here about the dead cops who are selfless in their actions to enforce laws to make our society a better place. They have families too and it sickens me that I have read so many people here straight up wish death upon them.
This is logical thinking 
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Bitter Cactus said:
If you are not retarded and encounter the police you should be safe pretty much every single time.
You live in Canada. The police there are different than in america
Out here, something as simple and seemingly friendly as waving at a cop can get you hassled
This is illogical thinking
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
#21796744 - 06/12/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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P.S. The cop who shot Tamir Rice? Probably getting charged with murder or reckless homicide. http://rt.com/usa/266677-tamir-rice-murder-charge/
I'm hopefuly, at the very least... that more and more cops are being charged for their crimes lately. Hopefully this is a continuing trend. Maybe they wont be so trigger happy when they are sharing bunks with the same guys whose lives they ruined. But no... they wouldn't stick them in gen pop.
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
#21796758 - 06/12/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: They're almost always justified, we only see the ones that are questionable because where is the interest in watching people continuously do only the right thing.
Other countries - and even some departments in the US - do not have this problem
why exactly is that and how many other countries is this, I mean are we talking every country other than the US? are we only talking about europe, are we merely talking about 1 or 2 countries because as I recall, "other countries" have a far higher rate of shooting criminals than the US does
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21796776 - 06/12/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You have to go pretty far down the list of countries before you get to counties that have more violent police officers
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Shroomism]
#21796792 - 06/12/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: P.S. The cop who shot Tamir Rice? Probably getting charged with murder or reckless homicide. http://rt.com/usa/266677-tamir-rice-murder-charge/
I'm hopefuly, at the very least... that more and more cops are being charged for their crimes lately. Hopefully this is a continuing trend. Maybe they wont be so trigger happy when they are sharing bunks with the same guys whose lives they ruined. But no... they wouldn't stick them in gen pop.
Grand jury going to decide if charges are going to be happen, the judge "is only advisory and doesn't affect the separate grand jury investigation"
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-backs-charges-against-cleveland-officers-killing-tamir-rice-n373931
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
#21796798 - 06/12/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Like the Polzi of Germany,or rampant corrupt departments of Russia and Mexico.
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koods
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: myc_check1212]
#21796813 - 06/12/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why aren't Americans embarrassed that American police are best compared to the police of corrupt nations and police states and not civilized democracies
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
#21796834 - 06/12/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: You have to go pretty far down the list of countries before you get to counties that have more violent police officers
We have a more violent population.
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate
"US Violent crime- 18 times more than UK. "
The US isn't Germany, France, Canada, UK, or Japan.
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: koods]
#21796840 - 06/12/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not embarrassed about the police force. We have the top cops you could find. Are there bad apples, sure. It's just that Americans are largely spineless idiots who believe what ever is on TV. So a couple questionable isolated instances becomes every cop is a racist trigger happy killer.
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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: qman]
#21796866 - 06/12/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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qman said:
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koods said: You have to go pretty far down the list of countries before you get to counties that have more violent police officers
We have a more violent population.
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate
"US Violent crime- 18 times more than UK. "
The US isn't Germany, France, Canada, UK, or Japan.
18 times the violent crime... 1000+ times the police killings of civilians.... totally adds up!
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