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OfflineSupachopped719
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When should the police be allowed to shoot?
    #21791131 - 06/11/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So it seems there is a divide in the pub. Some people think the police are wrong in everything that they do no matter what. And some people think that some police are out of line some of the times, but that most times their actions  are justified.

So when should a cop be allowed to pull their weapon? When should they be allowed to shoot? It seems the biggest disagreement is where the line should be drawn between pulling the gun out and not pulling the gun out.

http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=6f4_1372548151

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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Supachopped719] * 1
    #21791163 - 06/11/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Justified, he was holding a damn kid hostage. Deserved to get shot in the head. 
When someone is holding an immediate threat to someone elses life, it's usually justified.
Police in the US are out of lines a lot of the time. Killing children with BB guns, old men holding garden hoses, completely unarmed people, or people holding a fucking broomstick or pocket knife or pair of scissors or ipod.
Sometimes the people they kill deserved it and was completely justified. Sometimes it's an extreme reaction to something that could be solved with non lethal means. Sometimes it's just plain murder.
Police should only shoot to kill people when they hold an immediate threat over other peoples lives. A retard wielding a screwdriver isn't threatening the lives of 2 armed and trained police officers.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21791240 - 06/11/15 12:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Unarmed man executed on the street for "walking with purpose".
http://filmingcops.com/cop-shoots-unarmed-man-to-death-after-he-was-walking-with-a-purpose/

Not justified.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21791260 - 06/11/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
Unarmed man executed on the street for "walking with purpose".
http://filmingcops.com/cop-shoots-unarmed-man-to-death-after-he-was-walking-with-a-purpose/

Not justified.



No that just proves women shouldn't be cops.:yeahthatsright:


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21791309 - 06/11/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The unfortunate truth is, there is no black and white in this answer. There is no mental checklist for prerequisites to justifiable lethal force. In some ways it's specific, but if you try to break it down to exact circumstances, it gets very cloudy, very fast.

They should be held to the same standards any regular citizen would be held to. That is a problem however. A justifiable shooting by an ordinary citizen usually only needs to show that they (or whoever they were defending) felt threatened with death or serious bodily harm. That could mean just about anything. Everything from someone pointing a gun at you or charging you with a blade, to them reaching into their waist band/pocket for a presumed gun or knife.

But the problem hasn't always been based on those facts. The problem has been that everyone just accepts their word for it. It's only recently now that focus on them and cameras have increased exponentially that all of this is coming to light with undeniable evidence.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21791687 - 06/11/15 04:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21791742 - 06/11/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
Unarmed man executed on the street for "walking with purpose".
http://filmingcops.com/cop-shoots-unarmed-man-to-death-after-he-was-walking-with-a-purpose/

Not justified.




Completely unjustified.  She shot him from inside her car.  How could she possibly feel threatened from inside a squad car?


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21791757 - 06/11/15 04:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

arm everyone, even the children.  that's what i would do. :haha:


instead society votes to take our own rights away.  god what a bunch of fucking idiots.  like that is going to stop some lunatic from getting a weapon  All it does is make the innocent more vulnerable to their violence and unable to do anything when it happens again.  More people drop the longer it takes for a gunman to be stopped.  We will have to wait for the government to arrive.  Which is a win for the perp and a win for big bro.  NOT FOR US.  So stop voting to take our gun rights away you stupid morons.

crazy people dont give a hoot about jail or consequences, they are crazy.  If they're determined to kill people no retarded law is going to make them think "oh I better not, i might get in trouble."


:derp:

and who cares if people get shot by accident, it weeds out the stupid.  If a brother shoots a sibling, chances are that sibling was retarded.  It's fine.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: sprinkles] * 3
    #21791762 - 06/11/15 04:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

police should shoot MORE people.  Not less. 


These are stupid people who are getting shot, so stop pissing and moaning about it.  These arent nice church ladies on their way to go play bunko or anything.  Or the soccer mom on her way to Zumba.  These are dirtbags. 

Everyone is stupid but me.  I need to just die to get away from all this retardation.  Where is the mother ship for fucks sake.  Take me away. 


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: sprinkles]
    #21791875 - 06/11/15 06:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

whenever they want

cops have discretion. thats why they were given the job


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Bassfreak] * 1
    #21791903 - 06/11/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Whenever they feel like it, they wouldn't get to become cops if they didn't have self control and restraint and know when its absolutely necessary to use lethal force.

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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #21791909 - 06/11/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They're almost always justified, we only see the ones that are questionable because where is the interest in watching people continuously do only the right thing.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #21791936 - 06/11/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Whenever they feel like it, they wouldn't get to become cops if they didn't have self control and restraint and know when its absolutely necessary to use lethal force.

:trollhide:





do you know what discretion is?

cops have it. THEY decide when theyre allowed to shoot

it really is THAT simple


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21791942 - 06/11/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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They're almost always justified, we only see the ones that are questionable because where is the interest in watching people continuously do only the right thing.





its the media being bitches


cops have to work every single day. the US is a big place with lots of people. believe it or not cops have to deal with this shit everyday

cops shooting at people isnt fucking new. what new is the media reporting on it and people freaking out cuz they dont understand what its like to be a cop. sometimes cops have to do their jobs. pretty crazy right?


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21791944 - 06/11/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No, I've never heard of that in my life. Stop speaking Spanish.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21792101 - 06/11/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

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They're almost always justified, we only see the ones that are questionable because where is the interest in watching people continuously do only the right thing.





its the media being bitches


cops have to work every single day. the US is a big place with lots of people. believe it or not cops have to deal with this shit everyday

cops shooting at people isnt fucking new. what new is the media reporting on it and people freaking out cuz they dont understand what its like to be a cop. sometimes cops have to do their jobs. pretty crazy right?




In a way it's the media being bitches, but really it's just a reflection of the society that watches it, they wouldn't be able to keep beating that dead horse if people weren't so willing to tune in and emotionally attach themselves to everything they see.

It shows more about society then it does the media. People have influence over what the media covers, the media covers what people are willing to watch, the media is dumbed down, because people are willing to be dumbed down.


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21792110 - 06/11/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

well its just stupid people watching then lol

cuz honestly who fucking cares if a cop shot someone? thats like getting pissed cuz the trash guy picked up your trash on trash day


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21792130 - 06/11/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

90% of people are normal and change the channel if they don't like something.

Unfortunately TV panders to the 10% who call in and bitch and think if they don't deem it acceptable then it shouldn't be shown.

It's undoubtedly the dumb people, and TV gets dumbed down for everyone because of it.

It's only going to get worse now that they are wearing body cams with video that gets released so everyone can contemplate their own opinion and judge a life they haven't lived.

I could only imagine I'd be an asshole if I was a cop especially when responding to assholes day in and day out with my life potentially on the line. And after your life bei ng threatened so many times I'd probably be short tempered and quick to be a dick to people because it it


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21792135 - 06/11/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the news sucks. and so does the media


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Re: When should the police be allowed to shoot? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21792143 - 06/11/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Justified, he was holding a damn kid hostage. Deserved to get shot in the head. 
When someone is holding an immediate threat to someone elses life, it's usually justified.
Police in the US are out of lines a lot of the time. Killing children with BB guns, old men holding garden hoses, completely unarmed people, or people holding a fucking broomstick or pocket knife or pair of scissors or ipod.
Sometimes the people they kill deserved it and was completely justified. Sometimes it's an extreme reaction to something that could be solved with non lethal means. Sometimes it's just plain murder.
Police should only shoot to kill people when they hold an immediate threat over other peoples lives. A retard wielding a screwdriver isn't threatening the lives of 2 armed and trained police officers.



This exactly, well said, this is the truth.

Only is it justified to shoot, if someone is presenting an immediete life threat so another person.

Otherwise, its murder.


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