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neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops.
#21790651 - 06/10/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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so we have a small organic food farm of about 4 acres, about an acre and a half being food growing, the rest being prepped to grow food.
the north border of the property has about a fifty foot hill with ten feet of flat land with big trees growing in it, a street and on the other side of street is houses,neighborhood.
they keep throwing like old fences, yard clippings, straight garbage, you name it, its there. we only found this out after we took down half an acre of 30 foot tall thorn bushes surrounding the area, so we start hauling the trash out, like literally a 40 foot wide swath of shit, going 200 feet down this hill, get it all out go and check a month later and its all there again, when it rains you can see oil and shit leaking out of it and down the hill, thankfully not towards our food but still right into a river. so now the dem is up our ass about it cause it goes into the river so we finally take charge.
weve had signs but put a bunch more up, big ones too, like 4x4 foot plywood signs. people keep dumping. so out proprty is 7 feet from the road, so we put a fence up, bright orange lije plastic fence stuff. and mind you this is a decently upscale neighbor hood, like at least 60-70 people dump lawn shit in it every week. theres no woods other than the fucking ten foot wide swath running not even 200 feet up the road. so i guess that means dump it there cause you cant do anything else with it. like them paper lawn bags, or the town dump idfk.
anyways as we finsh up putting the fence up this cop rolls up and starts demanding to know where the property line is so we tell him 7 feet form the road, so then he starts asking why we are putting this disheveled looking fence up in his town. we tell him we cant have people dumping on our property. to which he replies, well you cant give a warning? like you cant put any signs up? being a real dickhead. so we point to the numerous 4x4 foot plywood signs that say no trespassing/no dumping. trys saying something about how they arent real no trespassing signs like the ones you buy at the store. so we tell him people cant be dumping here or we will continue to work to make people not dump, then he starts saying whats your guys problem, no fun here no fun here no fun here, looking around a different dirfection every time he says it, then starts saying how our fence will be ripped down by the morning. then says hes gonna keep an eye on this to make sure we dont intrude on the neighborhood or the 7 feet of town property from the road because they got like 7 calls from neighbors. we werent even in there for 15 minutes. fucking ridiculous, they cant dump on town property so they can go over town property to dump on ours? towns siding with people dumping shit on our property what the fuck.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: whitelights]
#21790658 - 06/10/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What state are you in? What sort of neighborhood is it? Are they on meth?
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: whitelights]
#21790662 - 06/10/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Damn bro that sounds like a shitty situation, I say the fence was the right call.
Fuck the cops and the neighbors too, your property, your choices.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: whitelights]
#21790663 - 06/10/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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whitelights said: so we have a small organic food farm of about 4 acres, about an acre and a half being food growing, the rest being prepped to grow food.
the north border of the property has about a fifty foot hill with ten feet of flat land with big trees growing in it, a street and on the other side of street is houses,neighborhood.
they keep throwing like old fences, yard clippings, straight garbage, you name it, its there. we only found this out after we took down half an acre of 30 foot tall thorn bushes surrounding the area, so we start hauling the trash out, like literally a 40 foot wide swath of shit, going 200 feet down this hill, get it all out go and check a month later and its all there again, when it rains you can see oil and shit leaking out of it and down the hill, thankfully not towards our food but still right into a river. so now the dem is up our ass about it cause it goes into the river so we finally take charge.
weve had signs but put a bunch more up, big ones too, like 4x4 foot plywood signs. people keep dumping. so out proprty is 7 feet from the road, so we put a fence up, bright orange lije plastic fence stuff. and mind you this is a decently upscale neighbor hood, like at least 60-70 people dump lawn shit in it every week. theres no woods other than the fucking ten foot wide swath running not even 200 feet up the road. so i guess that means dump it there cause you cant do anything else with it. like them paper lawn bags, or the town dump idfk.
anyways as we finsh up putting the fence up this cop rolls up and starts demanding to know where the property line is so we tell him 7 feet form the road, so then he starts asking why we are putting this disheveled looking fence up in his town. we tell him we cant have people dumping on our property. to which he replies, well you cant give a warning? like you cant put any signs up? being a real dickhead. so we point to the numerous 4x4 foot plywood signs that say no trespassing/no dumping. trys saying something about how they arent real no trespassing signs like the ones you buy at the store. so we tell him people cant be dumping here or we will continue to work to make people not dump, then he starts saying whats your guys problem, no fun here no fun here no fun here, looking around a different dirfection every time he says it, then starts saying how our fence will be ripped down by the morning. then says hes gonna keep an eye on this to make sure we dont intrude on the neighborhood or the 7 feet of town property from the road because they got like 7 calls from neighbors. we werent even in there for 15 minutes. fucking ridiculous, they cant dump on town property so they can go over town property to dump on ours? towns siding with people dumping shit on our property what the fuck.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Bitter Cactus] 7
#21790741 - 06/10/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The cop is probably one of the people that keeps dumping shit on your property.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Detached] 2
#21790752 - 06/10/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Load up a truck load of junk and go dump it on the cops property, when he complains ask him to point out the signs that says no dumping.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Shroomslip] 1
#21790851 - 06/10/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trail camera.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: passifloracaerulea]
#21790874 - 06/10/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Detached said: The cop is probably one of the people that keeps dumping shit on your property.
This.
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passifloracaerulea said: Trail camera.
And this. And just sit out there when you know they are gonna dump. Take pictures of them and say you will report them to the police, it's like a $1000 fine for dumping in many states I've been through.
Or stand there with a machete and war paint on your face. That should scare em.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Supachopped719] 1
#21790881 - 06/10/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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if i had a farm and people were fucking with it the only thing i would bring to the party is '30-06'
a few warning shots nobody will be back.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: whitelights]
#21790882 - 06/10/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What state do you live in? Isnt it feasible to just shoot them if they set foot on your property? Its one of the few things I like about America.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: passifloracaerulea]
#21790907 - 06/10/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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passifloracaerulea said: Trail camera.
and a gillie suit and a taser
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21790919 - 06/10/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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passifloracaerulea said: Trail camera.
and a gillie suit and a taser
Tazers miss and don't work a lot of times. Use mace. Less chance of giving them a heart attack and lasts longer.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Supachopped719] 2
#21790928 - 06/10/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Supachopped719 said: pictures of them and say you will report them to the police, it's like a $1000 fine for dumping in many states I've been through.
dont threaten with anything, simply take it to court, litigate for millions since they're damaging a property being used for organic agriculture and it will lead to the inability to acquire organic certification and in turn a loss of revenue, this case actually has a great deal in actual damages that could be awarded especially given that OP has to clean the shit up which now entails dumping fees, and his time which again is a legitimate loss in addition to the added lost revenue
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: whitelights]
#21790952 - 06/10/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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rackem said: if i had a farm and people were fucking with it the only thing i would bring to the party is '30-06'
a few warning shots nobody will be back.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21790954 - 06/10/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I didn't say threaten, I said, 'say you will report them'.
I always do what I say I'm going to do.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#21790958 - 06/10/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: What state do you live in? Isnt it feasible to just shoot them if they set foot on your property? Its one of the few things I like about America.
In general shooting someone for trespassing/dumping shit on your property would be a pretty bad idea. From all the states I've read about, they all require some level of threat (what constitutes threat varies from state to state, some are very specific and others are pretty lax) before you can use deadly force.
Usually there has to be justifiable reason to claim you felt threatened with death or great bodily harm (or if in acting in defense of someone else, that they faced those conditions). Even though showing a weapon as an intimidation tactic is illegal in most ways, trespassing is one of the times where it's legal. It's considered a form of non-lethal force. Just like putting your hands on someone and dragging them somewhere, in general would be technically illegal in most situations, it too is a form of non-lethal force and you're allowed to use non-lethal force to deal with trespassers. For you to be able to then use the gun on them, they'd basically need to put your life in danger. If you show the gun and they just keep standing there, you can't just use it on them.
Also OP while Googling I read across a tactic that might work out for you. Plant poison ivy/sumac/oak around that area.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Shroomslip]
#21791017 - 06/10/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Load up a truck load of junk and go dump it on the cops property, when he complains ask him to point out the signs that says no dumping.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: MilkdudTitties]
#21791739 - 06/11/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP go with the trail cams and capture evidence including licsense plates then go to the Department of environmental protection,regulation or what ever they call it where you live. Armed with evidence from the trail cams that way they are less likely to shaft you on who is responsible for clean up. Look up posted no trespassing hunting fishing trapping signs the ones that state the fine I've seen them from 300.00 to 10,000.00 (the ones you have to sign) If they are not signed they are pretty much void but if they are clearly signed. they are valid. So use a laundry marker or a sharpie to sign them. I'm generally against posting land but it seems you have an extreme situation.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: r00tuuu123] 1
#21791759 - 06/11/15 04:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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dump shit back, what goes around comes around!!
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Hayoxp]
#21791784 - 06/11/15 05:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hayoxp said: dump shit back, what goes around comes around!! 
Yeah thats all well and good but a couple of 1,000 to 25.000 $ fines would work better. Not to mention the 10'000 per in legal fees.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21791827 - 06/11/15 05:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hayoxp said: dump shit back, what goes around comes around!! 
Yeah thats all well and good but a couple of 1,000 to 25.000 $ fines would work better. Not to mention the 10'000 per in legal fees.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Hayoxp]
#21791896 - 06/11/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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whitelights said: I live in rhode island.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Ojom]
#21792122 - 06/11/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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whitelights said: I live in rhode island.
Peter Griffin is dumping trash on OPs property.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: r00tuuu123]
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21792142 - 06/11/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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id love to know why you have to give out warnings lol. its your fucking property
honestly the first thing i woulda done is taken all that shit and thrown it in the middle of the road. like no joke tahts what i woulda done
also why do you have to buy signs at the store for no tresspassing lol. you dont. fuck that cop, i honestly wouldnt listen to a word he says. if they take down a fence on YOUR property, id make sure to get that on video
that cop sounds like such a fucking moron. making things up as he goes
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Bassfreak]
#21792155 - 06/11/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: id love to know why you have to give out warnings lol. its your fucking property
honestly the first thing i woulda done is taken all that shit and thrown it in the middle of the road. like no joke tahts what i woulda done
also why do you have to buy signs at the store for no tresspassing lol. you dont. fuck that cop, i honestly wouldnt listen to a word he says. if they take down a fence on YOUR property, id make sure to get that on video
that cop sounds like such a fucking moron. making things up as he goes
Well that and as far as I know they have to get the zoning officer involved and give you a warning to take it down yourself if it doesn't meet code. OP find out what the codes are and install the largest fence allowed. That and keep the trail cams up and go to the local news make sure to name the officer that gave you a hard time by name. post the offenders on youtube or facebook or what ever.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21792163 - 06/11/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP, you shud set up booby traps or something lol
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Bassfreak]
#21792173 - 06/11/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bear traps. you need a sign though but make sure you get it at the store.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21792184 - 06/11/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah right? just get animal traps lol
idk of theres any bears in rhode island tho
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Bassfreak]
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Bassfreak said: yeah right? just get animal traps lol
idk of theres any bears in rhode island tho
Well bear traps are alot less dangerous than anti-personel mines. And yes there are bears in rhode island.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21792303 - 06/11/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you get the camera, then you might want to get a sign that says the area is under 24 hour camera surveillance too. Don't take shit from that cop again either. If he starts hassling you again then get his name and call his supervisor to ask why that cop keeps harassing you while you're trying to protect you business/property from excessive illegal dumping. That ought to encourage some professionalism.
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#21792327 - 06/11/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This reminds me of something that was going on with my grandfathers land. Instead of paying all the legal fees and stuff though he just built a pool that constantly fills up then drains down onto the assholes property that lives below (his property is on a hill)... There's literally nothing else up there, just a pool...my grandpa's kind of an asshole lol
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
#21792362 - 06/11/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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chicksgrowtoo said: This reminds me of something that was going on with my grandfathers land. Instead of paying all the legal fees and stuff though he just built a pool that constantly fills up then drains down onto the assholes property that lives below (his property is on a hill)... There's literally nothing else up there, just a pool...my grandpa's kind of an asshole lol
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21792380 - 06/11/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said: What state do you live in? Isnt it feasible to just shoot them if they set foot on your property? Its one of the few things I like about America.
In general shooting someone for trespassing/dumping shit on your property would be a pretty bad idea. From all the states I've read about, they all require some level of threat (what constitutes threat varies from state to state, some are very specific and others are pretty lax) before you can use deadly force.
Usually there has to be justifiable reason to claim you felt threatened with death or great bodily harm (or if in acting in defense of someone else, that they faced those conditions). Even though showing a weapon as an intimidation tactic is illegal in most ways, trespassing is one of the times where it's legal. It's considered a form of non-lethal force. Just like putting your hands on someone and dragging them somewhere, in general would be technically illegal in most situations, it too is a form of non-lethal force and you're allowed to use non-lethal force to deal with trespassers. For you to be able to then use the gun on them, they'd basically need to put your life in danger. If you show the gun and they just keep standing there, you can't just use it on them.
Also OP while Googling I read across a tactic that might work out for you. Plant poison ivy/sumac/oak around that area.
Then obviously this,
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Prisoner#1 said:
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passifloracaerulea said: Trail camera.
and a gillie suit and a taser
Is the second best answer, tell the police you felt threatened by their aggressive refuse throwing
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Supachopped719]
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Supachopped719 said: I didn't say threaten, I said, 'say you will report them'.
I always do what I say I'm going to do.
telling someone you're going to do something is a threat, actually doing something is taking action
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21792447 - 06/11/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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r00tuuu123 said: OP go with the trail cams and capture evidence including licsense plates then go to the Department of environmental protection,regulation or what ever they call it where you live. Armed with evidence from the trail cams that way they are less likely to shaft you on who is responsible for clean up. Look up posted no trespassing hunting fishing trapping signs the ones that state the fine I've seen them from 300.00 to 10,000.00 (the ones you have to sign) If they are not signed they are pretty much void but if they are clearly signed. they are valid. So use a laundry marker or a sharpie to sign them. I'm generally against posting land but it seems you have an extreme situation.
who the hell told you this pile of horse shit, a sign is a sign and regardless of a signature or whether it's store bought it's nothing more than a visual warning that expressly states a property right and denial of access, it does nothing more than prevent you from having to verbally warn someone to stay off your property
now while you may oppose posting these signs, the reason for them are numerous and that includes the liability of the property owner for the injuries to uninvited 'guests', yes, that's right, if the OP has someone come onto his land and they get hurt, OP becomes liable
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21792472 - 06/11/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not sure how trespassing law works in all the states, but in mine those signs are not necessary. They're just there for clarification. Even if the signs aren't posted it's still trespassing if a person doesn't have permission to be on the land. It's the person's responsibility to find out who owns the land and to get permission to be on it. I'd assume the laws are similar in most states(wrong maybe), but it's not really important since these jerks are only trespassing long enough to throw trash in the bushes. Most of them probably just toss stuff from the side of the road anyway.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#21792536 - 06/11/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Caltrops are always fun.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: passifloracaerulea]
#21792568 - 06/11/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe you can buy poison ivy seeds and spread them by the road
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Bassfreak]
#21793099 - 06/11/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: yeah right? just get animal traps lol
idk of theres any bears in rhode island tho
I'm pretty sure there are. We have them in Mass, so there's probably at least a couple that wandered down there.
Generally nobody puts out bear traps around here, it is only black bears, and it's alot more likely that you'd snag a person or dog I think even if you put it in the woods. Even without that, it isn't really fair to the bears who didn't do anything to hurt anyone.
Trapping in general is pretty illegal in most populated areas, so I would avoid that one.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21793242 - 06/11/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cant dump it back cause.ovsr the line would be town property, and theres at least 60/70 different people dumping.
Trail cam is genious- i have one too. Still wouldnt be able to figure out which house is theres so i could bring then the shit back on there fiinely manicured lawn. Deffinatley planting mad poison/ thorny plants. Maybr even rose bushes too. If they fuck up my rose busshes they are done. Plus im sure theyd like roses more than an orange plastic fence. I dont have the time nor money too take them all to court, someone involved with the farm may though.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: whitelights]
#21793558 - 06/11/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can help you with a fence. Do you prefer 11-row concertina wire that can stop a tank or triple strand? Tangle foot is included with both fences but you have to help pound pickets. Barb and concertina are your best legal options unless you're looking for something less savory. In that case I could point you to pungee pits or buried 12 gauge shells rigged to ramshackle devices
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: myc_check1212]
#21793797 - 06/11/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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myc_check1212 said: I can help you with a fence. Do you prefer 11-row concertina wire that can stop a tank or triple strand? Tangle foot is included with both fences but you have to help pound pickets. Barb and concertina are your best legal options unless you're looking for something less savory. In that case I could point you to pungee pits or buried 12 gauge shells rigged to ramshackle devices
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: myc_check1212]
#21793827 - 06/11/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I live in rhode island, not going to state the town, but the town has so many fucking ordinances. Not even allowed to shoot bb guns on your own property. No fireworks, no open fires, like the cop said, no fun XD. Although the property is part of a quarry, so we are zoned to do as we please, noise and fire wise at lesst. Still no discharge within 500 feet of an occupied dwelling.
I think if problems persist i will call the DEM and tell them we cant get our organic certification due to people dumping shit with chemicals into our property causing it to leak into the watershed of a public supply, and that the town police are harrassing us telling us our property is the only place to dump, have him talk to the cheif of police for the town and that should swuare things away with the police. As for the people dumping, planting a shit ton of poison and thorny plants, and hopefully sooner than later, an impenetrable wall of rose bushes.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: whitelights]
#21793850 - 06/11/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds like a 'No' on the wire. Plan B, pungee and shotgun traps. Technically you will not be discharging, only the trespassing dumping lowlife who steps on the booby trap is discharging near a residence. Double fucked
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: myc_check1212]
#21793908 - 06/11/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If he can't even shoot off BB guns I kinda doubt setting a trap designed to maim or kill is going to be very legal..
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Shroomslip]
#21793928 - 06/11/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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His property. Its only a problem if someone calls 5-0...
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: myc_check1212]
#21793936 - 06/11/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah but thats a booby trap, which is extremely illegal. If they can prove i set it up as one. Could say its to deter deer. either way id be fucked just cause these people have more than enough money to bring us to court, and with all these drama and lawyer shows on tv theyd be all over it.
Although, what if i put those things in right, and put huge signs up. Warning, do not trespass, or be subject to.bodily harm, injury or even death. Land mines set up all over property.
They would read it go what the fuck, thats.bullshit, then have the ground below them blow up,in,there face.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: myc_check1212]
#21793948 - 06/11/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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myc_check1212 said: His property. Its only a problem if someone calls 5-0...
You can't just do whatever you want on your property though. You're still subject to the law.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Shroomslip]
#21793971 - 06/11/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said:
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myc_check1212 said: His property. Its only a problem if someone calls 5-0...
You can't just do whatever you want on your property though. You're still subject to the law.
You guys are taking all the fun out of this. They're trespassers they have no rights or legal recourse
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: whitelights]
#21793978 - 06/11/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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get some boards, ram a bunch of 3.5" nails through em and lay them upright and cover with leaves
Firstly they couldn't prove it was you and not peoples trash, and if they could... it wasn't a booby trap it was just a bunch of wood from a shed you tore apart
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: myc_check1212]
#21793990 - 06/11/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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But they do, trespassing or not.
Set a trap that injures someone and at the very least you're going to be paying their medical bills. In reality they'll probably win much more than just the cost of medical bills and you'll most likely be looking at jail time.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: whitelights]
#21794077 - 06/11/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think you missed the whole point about the trail cams. I'm pretty sure that they are not carrying the shit over there by hand or wheelbarrow so like 4 maybe 6 trail cams Catching licsense plates and the offenders in the act turned over to the DEP who will impose hefty fines as well as the trespass fines imposed by the local authorities. Should stop this shit right quick. You don't even have to sue them when found guilty the most you would have to do is maybe show up in court a few times. Oh and in the meantime post a few no dumping without permission signs.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21794221 - 06/11/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why not just build a rail type fence...at least that would keep them from backing into your property and emptying pick ups....How long of a run are we talking about?...Either that or dig a ditch the length of the area that they are dumping so they can't cross it with a vehicle.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Thayendanegea]
#21794346 - 06/11/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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They'll probably just fill the ditch in with garbage.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: passifloracaerulea]
#21794401 - 06/11/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fill the ditch with sharks with lasers on their fricken heads!
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
#21794435 - 06/11/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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@op
This is why I hate the police; they work for the majority, and the majority are a bunch of degenerate fuckwads.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: NotTheDevil]
#21794645 - 06/11/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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you could always get a bunch of ammonium nitrate and wire up some tripwire ied's
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: luvdemboomers] 1
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well its like ten feet of flat land along the road, then a ten foot drop straight down, then down another 50-60 feet at a 45 degree angle, theres 200 feet of road along our property line but there is so many trees and thorns and bushes so thick they cant make it through, but theres like a 10 foot section cut out through the bushes to the top of that hill where they do it. we only own three feet of the flat peice of land, the town owns 7 feet from the road, so even if we put a rail, they could just dump over the rail. and it would still go down the hill.
okay the trail cam is deffinatley going up, a few others there have cams theyd be willing to set up as well, if we could get some liesence plates that would be ultimate. it is like three quarters lawn and yard clipping, and a quarter trash,scrap who knows what. like literally a couple tons of the mix accumulated over the course of two weeks. we have to remove it with a backhoe and bobcat.
i still think an impentrable wall of rose bushes would be the best bet, throw down like ten pounds of morning glory seeds, some other vining plants, possibly poison ivy, oak, sumac if i can find it. but for now trail cams will catch the perputrators.
want to know who gets rid of tons, literally tons of grass, and have to pay to dump it? you guessed right, landscapers. im sure they would get extra fucked for doing that.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: whitelights]
#21795068 - 06/11/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That cop sounds like a dick! And fuck your neighbors! I'd continue to put up signs and possibly cameras if the situation escaltes
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: luvdemboomers]
#21796458 - 06/12/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You need a license to buy ammonium nitrate. Even then the feds will be watching any purchase made.
Unless you open up thousands of the first aid cool packs a la Breaking Bad.
Maybe inflicting grievous bodily injury is the wrong way of doing this, I liked the poison ivy and sumac idea. Lets add to that with thorny blackberries and raspberries. A natural and nasty remedy.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: myc_check1212]
#21796526 - 06/12/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the best method is the one pris brought up. Video taping them doing it and taking them to court. The local cop might be in on it but the judge wont give no fucks about levying out fines. A 5 thousand dollar slap upside the head is exactly what they need.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#21796557 - 06/12/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah i wish no physical harm to anyone, especially over this, fuvk with my family your dead, but not for this.
Deffinatley planting posion/thorny plants, going to keep cams up. If they fuck up the bushes and continue to dump all the pictures will be turned over to D.E.M. And hopefully the state will take them to court. Because we dont have the time or money to bring 60/70 minimum people to court.
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Re: neighbors dumping shit into our farm. and childish cops. [Re: whitelights]
#21797320 - 06/12/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Honestly if poison ivy is capable of growing in an area and you don't actively kill it, it would probably already be there. That's at least how it is around here.
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