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Your grain of choice and why...
    #21789743 - 06/10/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What is your favorite grain and why?

Also your prep and additive advice would be great.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: 2shoes]
    #21789832 - 06/10/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Rye/wheat berries
2nd wbs

I get a pair of cheap panty hose, double em up, using a saw'n off funnel I load the panty hose with the appropriate amount of grain I'll need, tie it up and wash/soak/simmer;

Cuts down on mess


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #21789851 - 06/10/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:whatwhatwhat: :takingnotes:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: 2shoes]
    #21789945 - 06/10/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

mmmhmmm, true story; guess I should take some pics and post'em :shrug:

ain't nobody got time for that...

I'm make'n tacos :rolleyes:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #21789962 - 06/10/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Shit man I don't think my wife wears pantyhose :shrug:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21789964 - 06/10/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

who said anything about having a wife :super:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #21789973 - 06/10/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lets not go through this again :lmafo:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21789982 - 06/10/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

He needs to feel pretty too


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: maddchef]
    #21790011 - 06/10/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hard red winter wheat, easy to prep and 65 cents a pound


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21790048 - 06/10/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Hard red winter wheat, easy to prep and 65 cents a pound




Tell me more.. beer brew store, feed store?

Do you recommend wearing the panty hose when preping? :lmao:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: 2shoes]
    #21790056 - 06/10/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bulk food store and fishnets :douchewink:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21790069 - 06/10/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:stayfunky: fishnet it is!!

Keep the advice flowing!!


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: 2shoes]
    #21790115 - 06/10/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #21790190 - 06/10/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

panty hose? thats a great idea.  does it ever rip? 

this thread also sucks without pics, so i'll just leave this here



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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: FriedEgg]
    #21790193 - 06/10/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:idhitit:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21790370 - 06/10/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

For now I use wbs because my supermarket sells it for $10 for 40lbs. I plan to more for wheat or rye once I find a good local feed store.

Five or one gallon paint strainers are thicker than panty hoes and have an elastic band to put around your pot. I use my homebrew brew bags which are even more heavy duty but not needed for a few lbs of spawn grain, 20 lbs of grist yes. Just be sure to put a plate or your pressure cooker bottom spacer at the bottom so you don't scorch the bag.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Trimaco-5-gal-Elastic-Top-Strainers-2-Pack-11573-36WF/202061360?keyword=5+gal+paint+strainer


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Gr0wer]
    #21790533 - 06/10/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

cheap pennington finch seed from walmart.

it cost me .37 cents a pound and i have to drive less than 5 miles to get it. convenience and the smaller grain size colonizes in jars and tubs faster.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21790436#21790436


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: eatyualive]
    #21790578 - 06/10/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How much do you load in a home brew bag?


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: maddchef]
    #21790616 - 06/10/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Whole brown rice undercooked. PC'd in pp5s and broken apart in a ziplock when fully colonized. I live in Asia and cereal grains aren't available or cost a fortune. WBR is boss though.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: maddchef]
    #21790650 - 06/10/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

wbs use warm water to rinse several times until clear, throw away sunflower seeds and floaters.

Add a tablespoon or so of gypsum, cover and let soak overnight up to 24 hrs.

Drain in a colander and then spread out in a clean towel or tshirt.  Use a fan to speed up water evaporation.  Mix em up every once in a while so the bottom layer dries.

When the outside of the wbs is dry pc for 90 minutes at 15 psi.

I'm experimenting with using weak coffee water in the soak.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Sksoul]
    #21790673 - 06/10/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Whole brown rice undercooked. PC'd in pp5s and broken apart in a ziplock when fully colonized. I live in Asia and cereal grains aren't available or cost a fortune. WBR is boss though.




I use undercooked whole brown rice also and it is boss. I also use whole oats though. I am in the process of writing a whole brown rice prep tek. It should be ready to post in about a week. Feel free to critique it after it is posted.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: insanemike]
    #21790690 - 06/10/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My grain of choice? Whatever i can get for free

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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21790930 - 06/10/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i've used whole brown rice before and it worked fine; looking foward to that tek

I usually "double bag" my panty hose bags and today I filled one up with 14 cups of dry WBS :shrug:
For the record, there's no need to "double bag", I just do; the 50 cent walmart 'queen sized' panty hose are tough enough on their own; in fact, at one point I was forced to do the 'rinse cycle' while taking a shower, all the while holding a bag of grains;

I don't pick nothin outta of it, like floaters and what not, cause after full colonization...it don't matter, everything is colonized;
however, this go around, I've been informed that my wbs may now contain some other shit(like corn, peanuts, and beans oh my)
hopefully that shit will colonize as well, may let the fully colonized jars set for a few more days to 'consolidate'

anyways, after I rinse and 24-hour soak whatever grain I've bagged up in the panty hose, I simmer for like...uh...15-20 mins(?)

after that, I can let the bag drain naturally in the sink and then spread its contents out on cookie sheets line with paper towels and let the steam dry it out appropriately...


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #21791814 - 06/11/15 05:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

it will colonize just fine.:wink:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: maddchef]
    #21791817 - 06/11/15 05:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How much do you load in a home brew bag?



i don't prep in a home brew bag. i bring a pot of water to a rolling boil, add a dash of lime, add the seed. put the timer on for 20 minutes. dump off the floaters then strain for 30 mins. load up and pc an hour.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: eatyualive]
    #21791822 - 06/11/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

roadkill's favourite is unhulled millet...because it colonize fast...iam doing it for the first time, hope things go well.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: oontribe]
    #21791826 - 06/11/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

my 2nd favorite would be popcorn grain. id use it more if i could get it cheap like i used to. oysters absolutely love it.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: eatyualive]
    #21791905 - 06/11/15 06:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah. Popcorn is definitely one of my favorites also, 3rd on my list to be exact.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: insanemike]
    #21792032 - 06/11/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Whole oats. I get mine from a feed store or tractor supply. Boil for about 40 min. Strain off boil water for LC. Toss oats in strainer till dry-ish on the outside and load & PC.

$15 a fifty lb. Bag


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Grey]
    #21792059 - 06/11/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quart Jars + 300mL organic rye to 175 mL H2o. + PC@15psi/90min. + 420 = :dancer:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: poofterFroth]
    #21792146 - 06/11/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

local grains for the win.  keep that money local

buy it from the farmer closest to you for best price, and get cheap straw and free poo.  BONUS

u could meet an old head too who started farming way back, spark one up and make a friend :bobmarley:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #21792170 - 06/11/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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i've used whole brown rice before and it worked fine; looking foward to that tek

I usually "double bag" my panty hose bags and today I filled one up with 14 cups of dry WBS :shrug:
For the record, there's no need to "double bag", I just do; the 50 cent walmart 'queen sized' panty hose are tough enough on their own; in fact, at one point I was forced to do the 'rinse cycle' while taking a shower, all the while holding a bag of grains;

I don't pick nothin outta of it, like floaters and what not, cause after full colonization...it don't matter, everything is colonized;
however, this go around, I've been informed that my wbs may now contain some other shit(like corn, peanuts, and beans oh my)
hopefully that shit will colonize as well, may let the fully colonized jars set for a few more days to 'consolidate'

anyways, after I rinse and 24-hour soak whatever grain I've bagged up in the panty hose, I simmer for like...uh...15-20 mins(?)

after that, I can let the bag drain naturally in the sink and then spread its contents out on cookie sheets line with paper towels and let the steam dry it out appropriately...





I picture someone picking a pube out of their teeth in a few weeks!  LOL!


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Ncogneato]
    #21792357 - 06/11/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

nah, the pubes will colonize


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #21792396 - 06/11/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Edited by Mandarinfish (07/15/20 10:34 PM)


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Mandarinfish]
    #21792484 - 06/11/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Whole oats...

No-soak prep.
Boil 30-40 minutes, drain, allow outside to dry, PC for 90-120 minutes.

I like tossing a handful of gypsum into the boil water to help grains from sticking together


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21792517 - 06/11/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm kinda pissed that you fuckers didn't tell me to try oats a few years ago. Some of you have been enjoying their ease for years *ahem pasty*


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: 2shoes]
    #21792557 - 06/11/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What is your favorite grain and why?

Also your prep and additive advice would be great.



whatever i can get cheapest or the most of, i'm not picky and the only thing i add to grain is gypsum


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: cronicr]
    #21792588 - 06/11/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I throw gypsum in my boil and substrates. Well, crushed gypsum board.



I never noticed a difference using coffee in the boil water.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Grey]
    #21792648 - 06/11/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Whole oats. $15 a fifty lb. Bag




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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21792704 - 06/11/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Whole oats...

No-soak prep.
Boil 30-40 minutes, drain, allow outside to dry, PC for 90-120 minutes.

I like tossing a handful of gypsum into the boil water to help grains from sticking together




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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21792738 - 06/11/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm going to hit my local whole foods today and buy some grains and give grow bags a try.

oats and rye are what I hope to find.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: 2shoes]
    #21793118 - 06/11/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Most health food stores have both in the bulk section.  whole oats are labeled oat groats usually.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Grey]
    #21793182 - 06/11/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Farro works pretty good, I like mixing it in sometimes for special grows.

Also tried Pearl Barley recently, and the myc. completely tore through it in half the time that my regular grain jars took. :eek: I guess its barley thats been hulled so it didn't take much to hydrate it. I thought it was gonna turn out to sticky but was very pleased with the results.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Grey]
    #21793236 - 06/11/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Be careful with "Groats"
You want whole oats with the husk still attached...

I made the mistake of buying whole foods "Groats"
Lets just say it went all ooey gooey

I now use feed store "whole oats" & couldnt be happier :sunny:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: maddchef]
    #21793391 - 06/11/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm kinda pissed that you fuckers didn't tell me to try oats a few years ago. Some of you have been enjoying their ease for years *ahem pasty*




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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21793607 - 06/11/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Be careful with "Groats"
You want whole oats with the husk still attached...

I made the mistake of buying whole foods "Groats"
Lets just say it went all ooey gooey

I now use feed store "whole oats" & couldnt be happier :sunny:




The co-op where I live has oat groats with the hull. The ones without are labeled rolled oats. Same goes at the feed store.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Grey]
    #21794121 - 06/11/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i used the cheap wbs from wal mart because it was so easy to find.  rinse a few times i keep EVERYTHING in it waste not want not.

soak for 12-18 hours with a handful of gypsum stir well and simmer until the millet splits easyily with my thumbnail

the key is to not over cook the wbs


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Grey]
    #21794928 - 06/11/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Grey said:
Quote:

Fantastic Mr. Fox said:
Be careful with "Groats"
You want whole oats with the husk still attached...

I made the mistake of buying whole foods "Groats"
Lets just say it went all ooey gooey

I now use feed store "whole oats" & couldnt be happier :sunny:




The co-op where I live has oat groats with the hull. The ones without are labeled rolled oats. Same goes at the feed store.




He must be thinking of steel cut oats.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: insanemike]
    #21795036 - 06/11/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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insanemike said:
Quote:

Grey said:
Quote:

Fantastic Mr. Fox said:
Be careful with "Groats"
You want whole oats with the husk still attached...

I made the mistake of buying whole foods "Groats"
Lets just say it went all ooey gooey

I now use feed store "whole oats" & couldnt be happier :sunny:




The co-op where I live has oat groats with the hull. The ones without are labeled rolled oats. Same goes at the feed store.




He must be thinking of steel cut oats.




Oh, maybe. It could have been stocked wrong too.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Grey]
    #21795111 - 06/11/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This is a description from bobsredmill.com, "Groat is an old Scottish word from hundreds of years ago that refers to cereal made from whole, hull-less oats." After reading this I went on TS.com and Producers Pride doesn't refer to them as groats only as whole oats.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: insanemike]
    #21795121 - 06/11/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Used wbs on and off for years with decent results.  Super cheap and I'm poor!


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: unseenat17]
    #21795760 - 06/12/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I ended up with some good ole rye berries..

I'm going to use ziplock style filter patch bags. I have close to 5lbs of rye ands will prep out as many bags as possible. Going to G2G the 2 bags of colonized APE grain I have to the zipper bags then spawn bulk. I'm switching over to a mono tub for obvious reasons.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: maddchef]
    #21796389 - 06/12/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm kinda pissed that you fuckers didn't tell me to try oats a few years ago. Some of you have been enjoying their ease for years *ahem pasty*





lol...  I hear ya man!  I just started using them myself a short while back.

Man I love using these fuckers. They prep so easy and turn out great every time... :thumbup:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21796401 - 06/12/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like I'm scoring some oats today as well.. maybe I'll do a side by side Rye vs. Oats winch I'm sure has been done before.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: 2shoes]
    #21796405 - 06/12/15 08:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I use RGS.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: 2shoes]
    #21796423 - 06/12/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Looks like I'm scoring some oats today as well.. maybe I'll do a side by side Rye vs. Oats winch I'm sure has been done before.




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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21796431 - 06/12/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:goodluckwiththat2:


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: 2shoes]
    #21796456 - 06/12/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:rofl:

Some ppl are too literal, I suppose.


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Re: Your grain of choice and why... [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21796480 - 06/12/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That is the perfect gif to show side by side comparison btw...


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