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Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace
#21789013 - 06/10/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm still afraid to do it, but it's really nice to know that the Silk Road bust didn't stop other dark web sites from operating. I'm glad this thing is still thriving. I guess it's not going anywhere?
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Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace
By Jeff Stone @JeffStone500 j.stone@ibtimes.com on June 10 2015 12:20 PM EDT
Your drug dealer is moving to the dark Web. That part of the Internet, inaccessible to standard Web browsers and made famous (or infamous) by the Silk Road marketplace, has essentially become a shopping district for addicts around the world.
That's according to the 2015 Global Drug Survey, which polled 100,000 people and found a growing number are buying illegal drugs online through clandestine marketplaces that trade in bitcoins. Of those polled, 23 percent said they bought drugs online for the first time in 2014. That's up from 13 percent a year ago.
This increase comes despite the October 2013 shutdown of the Silk Road drug marketplace and the very public arrest of founder Ross Ulbricht, who was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole on May 29.
But the Silk Road website was merely the tip of an iceberg. A rotating cast of 25 or so hidden markets now fill that void, connecting buyers and sellers who transact in bitcoins to create a kind of dystopian eBay. They're only accessible through the Tor anonymity software, which gives anyone anywhere in the world access to the deep Web, the vast unindexed section of the Internet that's home to legal and illegal Web listings.
MDMA, LSD and marijuana are the most popular, in that order, according to the survey. Users also report that drugs sold online are often more pure than the substances they purchase from a street dealer. Customers pay less, experience less physical violence and far fewer threats to their personal safety. But their anonymity also makes it difficult for friends or family members to intervene in a case of addiction, and there's a much higher risk of getting ripped off.
The 2015 Global Drug Survey was led by Dr. Adam Wintock, an addiction psychiatrist at King's College London. The graphic below compares the number of users who reported online drug purchases (shown in blue) to users buying from an alternative or traditional source (shown in red).
Sweden, Poland, Norway, Denmark and the United Kingdom, respectively, reported the most drug buyers. The United States came in sixth place, with 11.2 percent of those polled admitting to buying drugs from an online source. Of American dark Web respondents, 8 percent said they purchased drugs online in the past year, and another 3.2 percent said they did so before 2014 began but had not since.
Fewer than 1 percent of the reported 100,000 respondents cited law enforcement as the reason they no longer purchase drugs via the Internet. When the Silk Road prosecution submitted a sentencing request in the Ulbricht case, they asked Judge Katherine Forrest to “send a message” to the dark Web ecosystem by sentencing Ulbricht to more than the mandatory minimum of 20 years. The survey figures were collected months before Ulbricht's trial, but the 1 percent figure shows that the message is not being heard.
(http://www.ibtimes.com)
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: Learyfan] 1
#21789057 - 06/10/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Now hopefully THEY GET THE MESSAGE
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: musiclover420] 1
#21789178 - 06/10/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm also still afraid, I managed to get everything down to the tee but when it came to making my first purchase I couldn't pull the trigger.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: Mescalitoe] 1
#21789265 - 06/10/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What part of it has you worried? Are you going to order to your home address?
If you read up enough I am fairly certain you can order stuff and if done right deny it if anything were to even happen. Since they can't prove you ordered it.
Unless they already were tracking you in which case you already are fucked probably.
If you do something like check the tracking a bunch or some shit they can connect it to you but if done right you ca deny everything.
I still haven't taken to time to work everything out but if I had I would probably just order some quasi legal stuff like MXE to test.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: musiclover420] 1
#21789497 - 06/10/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shopping district for addicts around the world. 
Yeah, because you need to be an addict to use a substance.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: larry.fisherman] 1
#21789542 - 06/10/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I caught that BS line too.
Obviously they are just buthurt they can't tax that shit and will lose money as people stop using taxed vices as much.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: musiclover420] 1
#21789758 - 06/10/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm surprised that the US came in at #6 for most reported online drug purchases. Figured it would have ranked much higher. Do you suppose its due to more availability with substances on the street or just a flaw in their data gathering?
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: musiclover420]
#21790207 - 06/10/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Now hopefully THEY GET THE MESSAGE 
Well said.
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musiclover420 said: What part of it has you worried? Are you going to order to your home address?
If you read up enough I am fairly certain you can order stuff and if done right deny it if anything were to even happen. Since they can't prove you ordered it.
Unless they already were tracking you in which case you already are fucked probably.
If you do something like check the tracking a bunch or some shit they can connect it to you but if done right you ca deny everything.
Hmm, what you say sounds legit. It really would be hard to prove that you ordered it.
Anyone else think that sounds right?
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: Learyfan] 1
#21790463 - 06/10/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks and that was just some stuff I read.
Seems pretty unlikely for them to even find out about most orders too, and I have even hard of people just receiving warning letters 
I am still hesitant myself though, partly just becouse of the efforts involved.
One day though I really want to get on it, just to try some exotic stuff.
Nice 5 too I have seen bills like that at festivals.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: Detached]
#21790675 - 06/10/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Detached said: I'm surprised that the US came in at #6 for most reported online drug purchases. Figured it would have ranked much higher. Do you suppose its due to more availability with substances on the street or just a flaw in their data gathering?
Legit US vendors are hard to come by.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21790698 - 06/10/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Darknet market sellers?
Pretty sure plenty of those ship to and from the US
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: musiclover420]
#21790747 - 06/10/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Legit ones that aren't likely to have an exit scam are hard to come by IME.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: 36fuckin5] 2
#21790761 - 06/10/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The SR didn't scare me one bit. The LE was only really interested in the guys selling the drugs, not the people buying. I would happily buy over and over and over again with no hesitation whatsoever. I used Tor, I used PGP, and I don't look at tracking numbers due to the irony of them. Looking at a tracking number logs your IP for that package. If you are a buyer, especially a 1 time buyer, you aren't even on the radar.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: Stargate]
#21790772 - 06/10/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Drugs were sold through the mail before SR, they'll be sold in the mail after SR.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: 36fuckin5] 1
#21790863 - 06/10/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Last I checked Agora was still going strong, I am sure there are others as well.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: musiclover420] 1
#21790908 - 06/10/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There seems to be quite a few, I've noticed. The feds are going to play Whack-a-Mole, taking one site down and having two pop up afterwards. A delicious waste of man-power on the Fed's part, methinks.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: Le_Canard]
#21790999 - 06/10/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah it is irony at its best.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: musiclover420] 1
#21791076 - 06/10/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It warms the cockles of my evil black heart.
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: Le_Canard]
#21791404 - 06/11/15 01:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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On one side darknet markets shouldn't be mentioned in public, and especially not written articles about
on the other side it is a good thing...
using gpg, encrypting your adr etc. you can deny everything even if a pallet of cocaine shows up at your door
no wait, officer, someone ordered drugz yo say ?
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Re: Dark Net Drug Sales Using Bitcoins Are Booming After Fall Of Silk Road Marketplace [Re: Le_Canard]
#21791798 - 06/11/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Now hopefully THEY GET THE MESSAGE 
They get it, but they don't give a shit. Because if they did, all the donut-consuming abominations out there would be jobless.
They're going to take all of this down until something else they can't understand pops up. Same crap since the dawn of time.
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Le_Canard said: There seems to be quite a few, I've noticed. The feds are going to play Whack-a-Mole, taking one site down and having two pop up afterwards. A delicious waste of man-power on the Fed's part, methinks.
+1
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