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Shielding Children from a materialistic society?
    #21788432 - 06/10/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

In your opinion, do you think it is a good or bad idea to sheild children from things like television, tablets, cell phones, main stream athletic activities, etc.

I ask because I find myself trying to limit my child's contact with such things as regular television programming, tablet use, mainstream athletic participation, mainstream spiritual views, and things of that nature. Though, at the same time, I thoroughly enjoy the internet as an educational tool, and I like to watch movies now and again. I know consistent exercise is healthy, but this can be achieved through other extracurricular activities, such as hiking, tai chi, karate (which she is interested in), yoga, and things of that nature. I've seriously considered banning television from my life all together, including watching movies.

I guess my ultimate question is, do you feel like a mixture of society and truth is good for evolving consciousness? I dont want my child to be bullied or treated poorly for being different, but at the same time, I feel it is inevitable, until more of human kind becomes consciously awake.

In our separate parent situation, the father is far from aware of the potential dangers of mainstream media, the corrupted school systems, refraining from an organic/all natural lifestyle, the dangers of internet and cell phone use, and all things not natUral, for that matter.

I cant, at the moment, live in an off the grid community. Just wondering about your insight on the issue, and what you feel are things children would be able to function in society with out.


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: jenflower]
    #21788673 - 06/10/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I got raised by a hippy and a hacker(programmer/nerd/atheist technology fan... you get the picture)
I spend my summers on Rainbow Gatherings and my winters on hacking conventions. I think a balance is key.

Shielding is not the thing that helps a child to understand the world, the most important thing is to answer all questions the child has truthfully.


Edited by RennHuhn (06/10/15 02:57 PM)


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: RennHuhn]
    #21788751 - 06/10/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I agree with substituting the net for tv, the programming is atrocious in my opinion.


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #21789129 - 06/10/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The net is the farbmore valuable than TV. Alienating a child is never a good way of action. The best way is to make unwelcome stuff uninteresting, if something is banned it will just get more interesting.


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: RennHuhn]
    #21789260 - 06/10/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just recently discovered the rainbow gatherings. Would like to attend one of those.

Yes, I dont want to alienate, but... For example... I dont drink soft drinks, or watch television, so I pretty much expect the same from her when she is with me. But... She mentioned the other day that her dad was going to get her a phone soon... Well... In my opinion, she doesn't need a phone until she is driving. But, now a days, kids have phones at 10 and 12!

I'm thinking I should keep doing what I'm doing, but I worry sometimes that I'm being too strict about it. I guess I'm trying to settle my worry with it by posting this, if only a little. Ideas that would make it less.... 'Nazi' at my house.


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: jenflower]
    #21789380 - 06/10/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"we must not leave a better world for the children, but raise better children for the world". Its insanely hard to protect them from,what you see as a "bad" thing. It way easier to teach them and make them understand why your beliefs is what it is.

its not a healthy world for our children, and it makes me very happy to see people like you trying to do something about it.

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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: jenflower]
    #21789412 - 06/10/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

In all of your post you never even mentioned how old your kid is, I'm guessing 13 because I'm smart.  And right as well.  14 tops, assuming you are a real Nazi.

Don't make her look like the freak in front of her friends.  Just because you want to be Amish or something, that's just not going to fly.  What the hell, mainstream sports, like soccer?  What's freaking wrong with soccer, Mom? 

I think you need to loosen up, how on earth did you even make it to The Shroomery anyway?  Lying to your kid about doing drugs while you try to "shield" her?

I think you might in fact be a hypocrite, you want what's "better" for your kid such as no drugs, while you puff on your little dabs or whatever other shit you are hiding from your kid.


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #21789428 - 06/10/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think it's a good thing to shield your child from danger and that's about it.  What ever the parent considers danger is entirely up to them.  Everyone is different.

Anyone who lives in a society which uses currency or trading is materialistic in some sense, unless you enjoy not having a home or water or food.


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21789544 - 06/10/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well, actually, she's 6, and I kind of feel that soccer is not really a mainstream sport, its definitely not American, but I guess that's just how different I see it. Some mainstream sports, like baseball and football, have been turned into celebrity based sports. Being rich and famous playing football seems to be the goal, rather than creating a lifelong healthy lifestyle.  I dont 'use' drugs, but you couldn't possibly know that, any way, one thing I did learn from your post, LunarEclipse, is that I'm probably worrying about it too much.

Cognitive Shift, I see your point entirely, and the more I think about it, she will get plenty of the crazy 'social norm' from elsewhere. But then, eastern spiritual and physical practices for health and longivity could be glorified eventually. I believe Yoga has already became competitive? Could be wrong. Also, I never thought to look at materialism as needing food, shelter or water. Those can be obtained without money.... Well, they were obtainable in the past with out money. Maybe, I would like to think the natural life is possible in the future. Of course, even then... paper, paper, paper!


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: Grimley]
    #21789554 - 06/10/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you! The whole situation really makes me sad. Trying to find some peace of mind here. All I can do is try to show her the right way, I believe. Its hard sometimes though.


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: jenflower]
    #21789559 - 06/10/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If the more "hippyish" life style is really better the child will be able to understand it. Children are not stupid or unable to decide what they like and what not. They are just naive. So take her on camping trips, let her have fun with martial arts. Show her the wonders of nature.

If you try to ban anything you dont like from her life she will resent you and see your lifestyle allways in a negative way. You cant force her to like what you like, she needs to discover life for herself. Let her have a cellphone, but disable your wifi. Let her watch TV(only when shes older or only for a short time,TV is like a drug for children), but offer to play games with her. Let her visit malls, but go on great trips through the mountains with her. If you want a functioning child withholding common life experiences from her wont work.

I really think you should visit rainbow gatherings, there you can see lots of disfunctional hippy parents that ruined the lifes of their children. I loved being there: lots of other adventurous children and nice people all around. But I also learned how to spot the crazy hippies and learned why rules are great as I met the dirty children of the laissez fair parents.


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: RennHuhn]
    #21789580 - 06/10/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

imo, it a bad idea to make children


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: RennHuhn]
    #21789590 - 06/10/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks! Sounds like it'd definitely be a great learning experience.


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: RennHuhn]
    #21789593 - 06/10/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't try to limit my kid's access to these things unless I would also be able to offer him something more enjoyable and interesting. At the same time, I find that kids who abuse usage of tv, internet and mainstream customs often lack authentic parental involvement. Kids have to be introduced to a world of options, so that their enthusiasm about diversity has a chance to develop.


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #21789631 - 06/10/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Too much interwebz = red panda obsession




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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #21789684 - 06/10/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That was exactly what I was trying to say :smile:


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: RennHuhn]
    #21789713 - 06/10/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't understand this great fear of the mainstream:shrug:  It's soccer for the love of pete...


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21789833 - 06/10/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think its silly to fear soccer or the internet. Its great and I pity everyone who misses it. But I also pity everyone who never lived in a tent out in the nature. But there are many things that can act like drugs for small children that kills creativity if consumed in excess.


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21789855 - 06/10/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
Too much interwebz = red panda obsession







Only that's a giant panda!  :snub:


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Re: Shielding Children from a materialistic society? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #21789888 - 06/10/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

OG made a uh-oh!


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