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luvdemboomers
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Re: Anyone ride dirt bikes? What bike should I get? [Re: Zombi3]
#21789557 - 06/10/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: Ill be buying used.
I used to ride Honda growing up. I have many years experience on a bike and even a few years of racing experience.
I was thinking about getting a 2-stroke cuz I love the speed! But Im not against a 4-stroke..
Been looking at early 2000's Either a Honda CR125 or a Kawasaki KX125, I dont need a 250cc lol
Im a big fan of Honda but Kawasaki makes a good bike too and theres more Kawis in 2-stroke around my area so theyre a touch cheeper.
I would ineviteably be modding with pro parts. I have basic mechanic skills when it comes to bikes. Im confident I can fix most anything, especially with my dads help, we used to tear apart and rebuild my bikes as a kid.
The only thing I worry about is frequntly rebuilding the top end if I go for a 2-stroke as I know this is a common thing especially on race bikes. Having only ever ridden 4-strokes can someone chime in on how exensive and how often the top end may need to be changed if I go for a 2-stroke? Or is that mostly a racing problem that I may need not worry about?
Real interested in any help! Thanks guys.
2 strokes are much cheaper to maintain/rebuild than motocross/enduro 4 strokes (CRF/R/X, YZF/WRF, KXF, RMZ). If you are looking at a trail bike (ttr, xr, crf/f, etc) they are much more reliable than either and will run forever. You never know what you are getting when you buy a used 4 stroke either. You can go just as long if not longer on pistons in a 2 stroke than you can in the comparable 4 stroke. As far as the 4 strokes go yamahas are the most reliable, followed by honda then kawi then suzuki. (not talking about trail bikes here)
A 2 stroke top end wear parts consists of a piston. 4 stroke top end wear parts consists of piston, valves/springs, guides, valve seats, cam chain, and cam chain tensioner. There are more parts to fail on a 4 stroke and if something does fail it's gonna be very expensive.
On a 125 i think doing a top end every 50 hours is a good idea... you could probably go much longer but it's good insurance considering it's $150 bucks and takes an hour. That's engine hours... 50 hours is a lot more than it sounds like.
As far as buying a bike to mod... especially an old bike... don't do that. Modifying dirt bikes is expensive. I you buy a 2001 cr125 for $1500 and dump 2 grand in it it will still only be worth $1500. My advice would be take the money you planned to spend on upgrades and buy a newer bike, or find a bike that already has the mods you want.
I think you are right on track looking for a used 125... they are plenty fast, light, and easy to work on. I don't think there are really any "bad" 125's made since the late 90's get whatever you like and get a good deal on.
edit: just read the thread
CRF250R's are good bikes. If you are looking for a 250f I'd look at the yz250f's though since they are more reliable. You are really rolling the dice buying a used one (any 250f really) though. A lot of the time with older 4 strokes people will just sell them when they need engine work instead of spend half what the bike is worth on a rebuild. If you buy it and finds out the engine needs a rebuild you're gonna be looking at $500-$1000 bucks if you can do it yourself. If it blows up... could be upwards of 2 grand.
I still say get a 125 they are just as fast as 250F's, cheaper to maintain and rebuild, have more fun factor and lighter. 4 strokes are easier to be faster on if you ride motocross though.
Edited by luvdemboomers (06/10/15 06:26 PM)
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Re: Anyone ride dirt bikes? What bike should I get? [Re: luvdemboomers]
#21790211 - 06/10/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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A little off topic but how much would a nice 250cc bike cost used?
I have never even rode a dirt bike or motorcycle before, but I did a SHIT LOAD of trail biking in my teens and early 20s
I would love to pick up one this summer and have fun
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Re: Anyone ride dirt bikes? What bike should I get? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21790226 - 06/10/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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A good one in good shape, somewhere around 1500-2000 would be a reasonable price to expect to pay.
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luvdemboomers
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Re: Anyone ride dirt bikes? What bike should I get? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21790259 - 06/10/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah around 2 grand around here for a mid 2000's model. I'd buy a smoker though no way i'd get a 250f that old unless I got it dirt cheap blown up or something. A 250 two stroke would most likely be a little (a lot) much for a newbie though. Even a 125 would be a handful if you've never ridden a dirt bike.
What type of riding are you lookin to do?
Edited by luvdemboomers (06/10/15 08:39 PM)
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Re: Anyone ride dirt bikes? What bike should I get? [Re: Zombi3]
#21790313 - 06/10/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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2 strokes are cheaper and easier to maintain, lighter, a lot more fun to ride and the powerband/sound never get old. youre gonna have problems with 4 strokes buying used that old
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Re: Anyone ride dirt bikes? What bike should I get? [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21790449 - 06/10/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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r00tuuu123 said: I'd go four stroke just for ease of maintainence. And unless your a really small guy I'd go with a 250 or larger. A lot depends on where and how you ride. Like if you do a lot of tight woods riding an Enduro bike would suit you better and if you do alot of wide open areas a MX bike would have a slight edge.
Yeah out here in the desert most people I know have been riding 250s and up since they were 14 or so. 450 4 stroke is a real nice base. Hondas and Yamahas are nice.
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Heh I remember one of my neighbors' sons buying a 250cc dirtbike and they never had one before. He was only 15 and maybe like 120lbs
When he floored it the front lifted off the ground like 15 inches
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