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Alan Rockefeller
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A new Psilocybe from Germany 3
#21787620 - 06/10/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Discovery of a new caerulescent Psilocybe mushroom in Germany: Psilocybe germanica sp.nov.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1002/dta.1795
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Anglerfish
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Interesting read, thanks! And no pellicle?
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That's awesome! That is for posting this. (You should've included some tits, but we'll give you a pass )
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*thanks for posting
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Oh baby!!
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: A new Psilocybe from Germany [Re: HamiltonJoe]
#21788107 - 06/10/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anglerfish said: Interesting read, thanks! And no pellicle?
A lot of Psilocybes don't have much of a pellicle.
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Wow, those are gorgeous.
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Re: A new Psilocybe from Germany [Re: doctorghosty]
#21788260 - 06/10/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very cool! I wonder how something like this can be around for 10's of thousands of year and yet no one noticed it until 2014.
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doctorghosty
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maynardjameskeenan said: Very cool! I wonder how something like this can be around for 10's of thousands of year and yet no one noticed it until 2014.
It had been dormant for years and then some asshat raked the entire forest floor and stirred up the spores.
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Re: A new Psilocybe from Germany [Re: doctorghosty]
#21788390 - 06/10/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Badass! Those looks gnarly
those azzies look crazy too (labeled A)
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Re: A new Psilocybe from Germany [Re: doctorghosty]
#21788532 - 06/10/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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doctorghosty said:
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maynardjameskeenan said: Very cool! I wonder how something like this can be around for 10's of thousands of year and yet no one noticed it until 2014.
It had been dormant for years and then some asshat raked the entire forest floor and stirred up the spores.

It was Alan.
Edited by Ran-D (06/10/15 02:10 PM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: A new Psilocybe from Germany [Re: Ran-D]
#21791423 - 06/11/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So....Does anyone see any problems with this paper?
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Joust
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: So....Does anyone see any problems with this paper?
I have not read it yet, i will tomorrow...
im assuming you know something?
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Alan Rockefeller said: So....Does anyone see any problems with this paper?
Is there something amiss? Something perhaps regarding the apparent occurrence of P. azurescens in Germany, which, as far as I know, do not grow wild in Germany? I've only skimmed through the paper, though.
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There's a serious lack of taxonomically relevant detail in this paper (not to mention no genetic work). The argument that this is a new species is tenuous at best. They sound more like something in the Psilocybe serbica group to me.
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Re: A new Psilocybe from Germany [Re: TimmiT]
#21792177 - 06/11/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was thinking the same, what about micro shots... not even one micrograph.
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Re: A new Psilocybe from Germany [Re: Joust]
#21792216 - 06/11/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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A wood grower with a strong blueing reaction that contains no psilocin. That's pretty weird.Bit xenophobic to call it P.germanica when it has only been observed in parks growing on wood chips and bark. Would be interesting to find out where the mulch came from. I wonder if it's unique stipe would behave the same if they got it to fruit on agar? Never the less a neat find. Quite high in psilocybin as well.
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Re: A new Psilocybe from Germany [Re: Heyowana]
#21792309 - 06/11/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: A new Psilocybe from Germany [Re: Joust]
#21792351 - 06/11/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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TimmiT said: There's a serious lack of taxonomically relevant detail in this paper (not to mention no genetic work). The argument that this is a new species is tenuous at best. They sound more like something in the Psilocybe serbica group to me.
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Joust said: I was thinking the same, what about micro shots... not even one micrograph.

Looking at it again these things strike me as quite weird. Also the weight put into the measuring of potency seems unusal.
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Alan Rockefeller said: So....Does anyone see any problems with this paper?
Why do they assume this is a native species and not something introduced?
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