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Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS)
    #21786846 - 06/10/15 03:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just need some confirmation as to whether all of these containers are ready to fruit or not as I've never worked with casing layer or this species before. I applied the 50:50 verm:cactus mix casing layer to some broken up manure cakes 4 days ago. Thanks!















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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: graveey]
    #21787023 - 06/10/15 06:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That looks more like a cobweb to me honestly; Wait for a trusted cultivator to be sure though.


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #21787489 - 06/10/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not cobweb, but it's a mold we call cobweb for convenience sakes :wink:


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21787507 - 06/10/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Would h2o2 take care of that or is it too far gone?


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: TravelAgency]
    #21787514 - 06/10/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Definitely too far gone.


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21788039 - 06/10/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Where would you draw the line? Basically at first growth?


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: TravelAgency]
    #21788078 - 06/10/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah. Also chances are it came from under the casing, so it's impossible to get it there.

Peroxide and cobweb... I've saved a tray covered in it, and it only fruited like half an ounce. My usual trays do 1-2.5 ounces.


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21788118 - 06/10/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ah no way :frown: What are the likely causes of this if you had to say? And at which stages of the grow was this most likely to happen? That sucks!


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: graveey]
    #21788166 - 06/10/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Was your casing ph balanced to 7-8?

My guess is your casing layer was susceptible from the start..

How did you pasteurize the casing layer?

Looks like you put it back into colonization after applying the casing layer..
Next time put it straight into fruiting after casing, Panaeolus mycelia is too speedy. It'll colonize your entire casing within 3 days IME.
Patching of the casing layer is definitely required when dealing with this sp.


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: graveey]
    #21788323 - 06/10/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't listen to them, that's not mold.:rolleyes:
It's just an overly colonized casing layer. That is Panaeolus mycelium.
As Fox said, you should've fruited those trays right after you cased them.
Patching with this species is definitely NOT required.
You can either fruit them as they are, or re-case them and put into fruiting immediately.


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: stonesun]
    #21788369 - 06/10/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

holy fuck dude I hope you're right! Thanks for the reassurance. I'll keep posted on any developments :smile:


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: graveey]
    #21788393 - 06/10/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Stonesun knows what's up, especially with exotics. He's probably right.


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: Grey]
    #21788424 - 06/10/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I hope so, I manically scraped away one of my container's casing layers in a desperate bid to save it before coming to my senses and deciding to get a second opinion on another thread.



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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: graveey]
    #21788556 - 06/10/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This is a photo of a Panaeolus bisporus casing layer similar to yours:



And these are the fruits without tweaking, recasing or patching:



Good luck!


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Re: Pan Cam's - Ready to fruit? Opinions needed (PICS) [Re: stonesun]
    #21789109 - 06/10/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

stonesun said:
This is a photo of a Panaeolus bisporus casing layer similar to yours:



And these are the fruits without tweaking, recasing or patching:



Good luck!





That looks exactly like mine, even the thicker parts on the side :smile: Thanks a lot man! Much appreciated!


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