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Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk
#21786109 - 06/09/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3117442/Can-coffee-enhance-cannabis-high-Study-reveals-marijuana-s-effect-change-based-caffeine-ve-drunk.html
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- Drinking lots coffee while smoking marijuana may increase addiction
- This may be because caffeine enhances the high of smoking cannabis
- But small amounts of coffee could help combat cannabis addiction
- Study was done on monkeys, and researchers have yet to quantify how much a 'small' amount of coffee is for humans
Published: 22:19, 9 June 2015
Drinking lots coffee while smoking marijuana can cause people to become more addicted to the drug, according to a new study.
This may be because caffeine enhances the euphoria associated with smoking cannabis.
But scientists say it all depends on how much coffee you drink.
The same research found that small amounts could actually help combat cannabis addiction, by putting you off the drug altogether.
 A study by the Integrative National Institute on Drug Abuse in Baltimore found that drinking lots coffee while smoking marijuana can cause people to become more addicted to the drug
‘The discovery does provide some fascinating insights into the workings of the brain, and why humans find coffee and marijuana so enjoyable,’ Dr Gary Wenk explains on the Oxford University Press' blog.
‘Their euphoric effects might be related to each other.’
A study by the Integrative National Institute on Drug Abuse tested monkeys who were addicted to the active ingredient in marijuana, delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC).
The monkeys were able to freely self-administer as much or little of THC as they wished.
They found that monkeys that had been given small amounts of the caffeine-mimicking drug were less likely to self-administer THC.
 A study by the Integrative National Institute on Drug Abuse tested monkeys who were addicted to the active ingredient in marijuana (pictured), delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). They found that monkeys that had been given small amounts of the caffeine-mimicking drug were less likely to self-administer THC
Monkeys that were given a large dose of caffeine - 3 mg, compared to a low dose of 1mg - chose to take more THC.
The study suggests coffee’s addictive properties also involve the brain’s marijuana-like neurotransmitter system.
‘High doses of coffee makes us feel so good because it is able to tap into virtually every reward system our brain has evolved,’ explained Dr Wenk.
‘Hidden within that hot black silken elixir is a chemical that has taken over your brain by mimicking the actions of marijuana.
‘These new studies provide insight into a potential danger of caffeine to increase the addictive and negative cognitive effects of marijuana.’
The researchers added that it’s too early to say whether the same effect occurs in humans as it does in our monkey counterparts.
They have also yet to quantify how much a 'small' amount of coffee is for humans to combat cannabis addiction.
DANGERS OF DRINKING ALCOHOL WHILE SMOKING CANNABIS REVEALED
Smoking cannabis while drinking alcohol intensifies the ‘high’, according to new research.
Inhaling marijuana after drinking increases the concentration of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the drug’s main psychoactive ingredient, in the blood, a study found.
This raises questions over whether smoking cannabis after consuming even a small amount of alcohol is safe if a person is driving, researchers said.
Road traffic crashes rank as the ninth leading cause of death and account for 2.2 per cent of all deaths globally, according to the Association for Safe International Road Travel.
In the US, where the researchers carrying out the study were based, cannabis use has surged in the last decade as the drug has been decriminalised in some states so it can be used to treat a range of medical conditions.
The researchers said the combination of cannabis and alcohol is most commonly detected after crashes and so they wanted to investigate how mixing the two drugs could affect road safety.
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#21786262 - 06/09/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the same thing can be said with cigarettes... So in other words you get addicted to caffeine and start to associate caffeine with weed?
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: MagicMush123]
#21786595 - 06/10/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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When working in a rat lab, we found that nicotine and alcohol promote each other in the brain. Just sayin...
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: Stargate]
#21786946 - 06/10/15 05:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This comes as no surprise to me. Coffee and cannabis goes really well together, as does alcohol and tobacco, and mushrooms and tobacco. The shops to buy weed here are even called coffeeshops (Although that has it's origins in the first actual coffeeshops in Europe.), and the ones I am fammiliar with have some really expensive coffee making machines.
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: Turtletotem]
#21787126 - 06/10/15 07:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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New study shows that combining drugs, gives users different highs.
I guess this is news since the media probably forgot caffeine is a drug.
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#21787150 - 06/10/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's news in the fact that not all drugs are synergistic in self-administration studies.
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#21787862 - 06/10/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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"The study suggests coffee’s addictive properties also involve the brain’s marijuana-like neurotransmitter system."
I can't figure out where that is suggested in the article. Its the only interesting thing in this study and they just brushed over it?
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: olson]
#21787891 - 06/10/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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coffee and sativa in the morning equals productive!
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#21787921 - 06/10/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i was just thinking earlier how a nice cup of joe goes with a couple billskins. mixed billskins.
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#21788818 - 06/10/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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they probably just put a little too much acid in the coffee....rookies
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: alised]
#21788830 - 06/10/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Actually, after looking at it, the study didn't involve caffeine at all. Horrible reporting.
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#21788877 - 06/10/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Since when is cannabis addictive?
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: Zombi3]
#21789352 - 06/10/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: Since when is cannabis addictive?
yeah its not addictive neither is heroin
Edited by innerspeaker1967 (06/10/15 05:21 PM)
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: innerspeaker1967]
#21789827 - 06/10/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The monkeys were given a "caffeine mimicking drug" therefore no conclusions can be made about the effects of caffeine+cannabis. Mimicking drugs aren't the same as the intended drug of study. Bad science.
There is no mention of the environment the monkeys were kept in. If they were kept in small cages will limited social interactions they are most likely going to have higher rates of addiction then happy social monkeys.
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: innerspeaker1967]
#21789853 - 06/10/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: Since when is cannabis addictive?
yeah its not addictive neither is heroin
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: Zombi3]
#21790454 - 06/10/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cannabis might not be addicting, but getting high sure as hell is.
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: Zombi3]
#21790781 - 06/10/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said:
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Zombi3 said: Since when is cannabis addictive?
yeah its not addictive neither is heroin

Caffeine is the most abused stimulant in the USA. You can get addicted if you abuse it daily. I had that problem with Mountain Dew. Had this saying, "8 liters a day keeps the doctor away." I was getting fat on it, so I went cold turkey. It was a bitch. Massive migraines, I constantly wanted to go get more, I was sweating like crazy, and even felt sick without it.
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#21792171 - 06/11/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
DANGERS OF DRINKING ALCOHOL WHILE SMOKING CANNABIS REVEALED
Smoking cannabis while drinking alcohol intensifies the ‘high’, according to new research.
Thank god for that research or humanity would have never known.
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Re: Study reveals how marijuana's effect can change based on how much caffeine you've drunk [Re: wakeme111]
#21796156 - 06/12/15 06:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I light of the social climate there is only one thing we can do, ban The Coffee! Its obviously a dangerous drug that is a gateway to all the others. First coffee, then heroin.
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