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A few poppy questions
    #21784663 - 06/09/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just made the following post in the pub about gardening, but had some questions...

The few poppy plants I have in the ground (5 or so) are still tiny... So I busted out my old seed collection and tried to germinate them hoping there is still time left in my growing zone to get something from them..
I'm in Southern Wisconsin...

If these germinate, will there still be enough time to get them to maturity?
Also, does anyone know what those acronyms may stand for?

Thanks...
Here is the post I wrote in reply...




Poppies need cool temps to germinate... So I just went and got all my old seeds out from various trades here a few years ago... 
Got paper towel wet and layed it in Tupperware and spread the seeds out and labeled em. 

Hoping the paper towel and cold fridge can make them germinate and then try to transplant the sprouts in to soil and hope the season has enough time left... 

I just did... 
Persian white
Gigantium 
Izmir afghan(white?) 
Some called Black Current Fizz
A mix labeled Turkish and Taz
Mammoth 
Gigantium Hot pink
Wizi psmi 

They're all labeled from whoever I was trading with then.. 

Anybody know what those acronyms stand for?


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: shLong]
    #21784701 - 06/09/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Another thought.. Here you're supposed to sow seeds in early spring... Is that because of the temps needed to germinate, or because they take a full few seasons to reach maturity...
. We still have approx 4 months of growing time here... I think


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: shLong] * 1
    #21784730 - 06/09/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh dude,you shouldn't have used paper towel method for poppies,that's a no no.

They should have been scattered on the ground,and not messed with.

With you living in Wisconsin,it's not too late to have started them now.

If you have seeds left,I would till up a good area,and sew the seeds all over,and keep them moist until they germinate.


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #21784867 - 06/09/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have plenty of seeds... But why not the paper towel method?

So I do have time then?


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: shLong]
    #21784879 - 06/09/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also, any insight to what wizi psmi is and any comments or thoughts about the other strains I posted?
I'm genuinely curious and wanting to learn. :smile:


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: shLong]
    #21784882 - 06/09/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bumping so I can follow thread because what the fuck is a Wismi Psmi.

Hope someone can clarify for ShLonggy and I. I'm not involved just confused, intrigued and curious.

You fucker beating me by 13 seconds. lol.


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: shLong]
    #21784890 - 06/09/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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shLong said:
I have plenty of seeds... But why not the paper towel method?

So I do have time then?





Well,poppy roots are fragile,and tend to intertwine in the fibers of the paper towel,thus making it hard to get them out and planted without breaking them.

Poppies like to be sowed where they are intended to be grown,and just left alone.

You have time in Wisconsin I would imagine,it doesn't get unbelievably hot there in the summer like it does here in the south:thumbup:


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #21784896 - 06/09/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh if it's anything like Minnesota you'd be fuckin' suprised my friend, and that's just a hop skip and you don't even need to take the jump, away

It gets to 100 sometimes in MN still in the summertime. Not often, but occasionally. I've yet to experience that high of a heat in Florida, but Florida has a higher summer average, constantly around 90-91 around my town.


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21784927 - 06/09/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Oh if it's anything like Minnesota you'd be fuckin' suprised my friend, and that's just a hop skip and you don't even need to take the jump, away

It gets to 100 sometimes in MN still in the summertime. Not often, but occasionally. I've yet to experience that high of a heat in Florida, but Florida has a higher summer average, constantly around 90-91 around my town.





Well,if that's the case I wouldn't bother planting the seeds then,as it will be a waste.

I've lived in Florida for a total of 10 years,but I'm in Kentucky now,although I'm moving back to Florida in a little over two weeks,and yeah,the humidity,sun and heat are unbearable to those not acclimated,or accustomed to it.

You can grow nice poppies in the cooler months there though,but forget about it in the summer!

Here are some of my plants where I just tossed the seeds on the ground,and forgot about them.

They really are just that easy to grow:thumbup:











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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #21784944 - 06/09/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm gonna have to have you over for dinner on my lactarius indigos for some seeds when you move to Florida then! Because I can't trade forum:/ I wanna get on that poppy game!


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21784951 - 06/09/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Psychonautica said:
I'm gonna have to have you over for dinner on my lactarius indigos for some seeds when you move to Florida then! Because I can't trade forum:/ I wanna get on that poppy game!





Dude,I'm down for that,as lactarius indigos are among my most favorite edible to eat!


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #21785736 - 06/09/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Average tempsfrom here til September will be highs of approx 72-90... Mostly approx 80-82 degrees... Dipping to mid 50s to 70 at night...

I tilled a small area and tossed some seeds down and watered em...

I'll do that in a few places and see what happens...


I think of I get the seed out right as it's sprouting, I can get it before it gets in the towel... And then put several sprouts in a small biodegradable pot and let that grow for a week or two, and then cull a few and plant the whole container.


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: shLong]
    #21787268 - 06/10/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Some seeds are best with the direct sew, method. Poppy, is one of them. I say this, because they are notorious for not liking to be disturbed and or transplanted. To me, their care is akin to Lettuces. I do not transplant lettuces either. In years past with lettuce and poppy grows, I have tried to start in paper-towel, and in 2 inch pots for tansplant.. and both varieties of plant did not like transplant. As with what others have said, It may not yet be too late to start for late season flowering.


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #21787447 - 06/10/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

alright :sad:

I'm still gonna try, though...
I went and filled a paint roller tray with soil and sowed some seeds on that and stuck that in the fridge at work to see if I could get any sprouts...

I can also dig up more land to sow on, but I fear it's too warm for them to germinate now...(that's why I am trying to hard to get enough sprouts that at least a few of them will take).

I also saw some poppies growing along a rural road outside of town the other day...They had pods (that I saw from a distance), but the flowers were orange. They could've been a light red, but my 1st impression was orange.
Do any P.S. flower orange, or is that likely another strain that won't "produce"...

I can probably get pics later if I drive out there


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: shLong]
    #21787733 - 06/10/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Good luck man,you may get flowers by fall.


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #21787769 - 06/10/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So the problem is that your plants may flower when they're tiny seedlings and your pods will end up being the size of marbles with no morphine.  Once the days get to a certain length, poppies will stop growing and put all their energy into flowering.  The reason you sow early in the year is to get the lettuces as massive as possible before they flower so that the pods are larger.  Next year, sow in March and feed the lettuces a balanced fertilizer every other watering or so until they get about a foot or two wide and the days are getting longer, then just water when the soil gets too dry. 

I could be wrong and yours might grow to a decent size before they shoot to seed, but I'm pretty sure you're hosed for the year.


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #21787787 - 06/10/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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P.Zappatecorum said:
So the problem is that your plants may flower when they're tiny seedlings and your pods will end up being the size of marbles with no morphine.  Once the days get to a certain length, poppies will stop growing and put all their energy into flowering.  The reason you sow early in the year is to get the lettuces as massive as possible before they flower so that the pods are larger.  Next year, sow in March and feed the lettuces a balanced fertilizer every other watering or so until they get about a foot or two wide and the days are getting longer, then just water when the soil gets too dry. 

I could be wrong and yours might grow to a decent size before they shoot to seed, but I'm pretty sure you're hosed for the year.





No,you're exactly right:thumbup:

I've found that when you sow them in the fall,they have all that time to grow huge lettuces,and by the following spring,you have massive multi-podded plants.

But,if you sow them in spring,like I did,you get tiny single podded plants with small pods.

Some of my plants are also only a few inches tall too.

Poppies are a long day plant,and what will most likely happen is that his will grow to a certain small size,flower early,and msot likely only be a few inches tall.

I knew this,but he still will get flowers,regardless,so I didn't mention it.


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #21787830 - 06/10/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Shit...yeah that makes a lot of sense..fuck..

Oh well...perhaps the few I have growing will turn out to be good.

I went and snapped a pic of the "wild" poppies I found...brb, gonna upload


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: shLong]
    #21787835 - 06/10/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)




Here they are... I'm guessing they're not Somniferum? :sad:


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Re: A few poppy questions [Re: shLong]
    #21787845 - 06/10/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you get small plants and pods, you'll still end up with more seeds than you started with, right? I've never grown but I would think so.
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Here they are... I'm guessing they're not Somniferum? :sad:




from what I understand you can't tell if they are or they aren't by looks. I may be wrong, it might have been saying you can't tell the strain just by looking, I stumbled on that when trying to figure out what a wizi was.


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