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How ancient Philistines got WASTED on LSD-like drugs 3,000 years ago
    #21783782 - 06/09/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Mon, Jun 8, 2015



Analysis carried out by scientists on pots found in a 3000-year-old incineration pit found they used to get blasted by drinking brews of an intoxicating plant with similar effects to LSD and magic mushrooms.

The active ingredient is known to induce not only visons but also violent behaviour.

The research team examining the pots discovered molecules from plants belonging to the Hyoscyamus family, which were preserved in olive oil in their original form.

Hyoscyamus was historically used for its psychoactive properties in "magic brews," to induce trips or trance-like states.

When used as a drug the plant can cause the sort of behaviour associated with being drunk, including difficulty speaking, vomiting and fighting. But it also causes dilated

pupils, auditory, visual or tactile hallucinations, confusion, delirium and agitation.

In extreme cases it also produces the sensation of flying.

The modern use of the term Phillistine comes from the ancient race of Aegean origin who came to southern Palestine in about the 12th century BC, as the Israelites arrived.

They had a history of invading countries with superior weaponry such as Anatolia, Cyprus, and Syria, then Egypt in around 1190.

They fought the Israelites, as represented by the story of Samson in Judges 13­16 of the Old Testament, and were eventually defeated by Israelite king David.

According to historians, the new drug findings are the oldest known ritual use of the intoxicating plant, revealing the Philistines engaged in an ancient drug culture believed to have revolved around spiritual rituals.

The plant was also sometimes combined with other plants to create concoctions used for anaesthetics for ritual practices that involved an element of pain.

Haaretz reports that the stone and clay pots were found with other items including small stone and clay alters, vessels and tools in 2002 at the pit in the central Israeli town of Yavneh, but the research has only now been undertaken.


The hyoscyamus plant

The pit was actually discovered by chance some few hundred meters from the Tel Yavneh archaeological site, where there is evidence of permanent occupation from the second millennium BC to the Middle Ages.

Dr Devori Namdar of the Earth Science institute at Hebrew University analysed the findings.

She told Haaretz the Hyoscyamus plant is still used by many of the Bedouin as a ritual hallucinogenic trance-inducing drug.

She said: "It's an old plant, and it has been documented in literature that Bedouin often chew it to this day.

"The common presumption is that they served as an important part of mystic and spiritual rituals and gave users intense, ecstatic experiences."

The pit was once part of an Iron Age temple.

It was excavated by archaeologist Dr Raz Kletter in 2002, where he found thousands of artefacts for worship.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/583018/ancient-Philistines-WASTED-LSD-drugs-3-000-years-ago


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Re: How ancient Philistines got WASTED on LSD-like drugs 3,000 years ago [Re: Ogla] * 1
    #21783895 - 06/09/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Active drug in the plant is called Hyoscyamine and is a tropane alkaloid.



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Re: How ancient Philistines got WASTED on LSD-like drugs 3,000 years ago [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21784007 - 06/09/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I was wondering what part of this was "lsd" like...

As soon as I read "The active ingredient is known to induce not only visons but also violent behaviour." I guessed tropanes :lol:


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I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: How ancient Philistines got WASTED on LSD-like drugs 3,000 years ago [Re: musiclover420]
    #21784014 - 06/09/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah the author probably just googled the compound, read "it produces hallucinations" and then likened it to the only other drug he/her knew which gave people hallucinations.


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Re: How ancient Philistines got WASTED on LSD-like drugs 3,000 years ago [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21784500 - 06/09/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Datura! :smile:

Just a different form of Nightshade


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Re: How ancient Philistines got WASTED on LSD-like drugs 3,000 years ago [Re: GrimTroll]
    #21784671 - 06/09/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

very distinct from any of the tryptamines.


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Re: How ancient Philistines got WASTED on LSD-like drugs 3,000 years ago [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #21784888 - 06/09/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can go into trance without any drug at all, at any time

If you got lots of patience.

We go into a trance-like state when we lucid dream, it usually takes 45minutes for me to get into a WILD (wake induced lucid dream) when I lay down. Don't move for 45minutes. Don't hold onto thoughts.

Shamans go into trance with drums.

You can experience flying in any trance state it seems, perception outside your body, or inside, any trance state seems to be equally interesting.

They can also all heal or be destructive to the mind. Lucid dreams(sleep paralysis) can be equally destructive as a bad trip, so bad trips are overrated, compared to all other trance states - which can be just as bad.

Severe precautions must be taken, trance states is the shaman land.

Only shamans go there repeatedly and get away with it (gets a positive gain) usually.

And it seems there are many kinds of shamans :-)


Everytime we go into that state, we alienate ourselves a little from the normal society - also with lucid dreams.
So what we bring back must be worth it. Excess energy should be brought back preferably.


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Re: How ancient Philistines got WASTED on LSD-like drugs 3,000 years ago [Re: Ogla] * 1
    #21785695 - 06/09/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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