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Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... * 2
    #21782391 - 06/09/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like im finally finding my groove with this. This is my first pull from 60g ACRB



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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782392 - 06/09/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you read that tek didnt you :smile:


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782393 - 06/09/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Tek?


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21782398 - 06/09/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i sent him the thick light tek when he was struggling :smile:


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: rxb] * 1
    #21782405 - 06/09/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I did, but I didn't follow it because it involved materials that I couldn't get at the moment.

BUT

what I did do, was listen to you guys advice. I started letting the vinegar/water/bark sit overnight rather than just an hour.

I also pre-evapped prior to freeze-prec for about an 1-2 hours.

I also cut down on the lye..instead of using 50g lye I used 35g.


thank you guys :rockon:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782440 - 06/09/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

nice...im thinking of setting up a Tesla turbine to vacuum evap



something like that :smile:


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. i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications)

[quote]Enlil said:
I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782458 - 06/09/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Everybody uses those Pyrex dishes...

I wish I had room in the freezer for that cause I use 1/4 pint mason jars. And I feel like it soxsmall it doesn't let all the product crystallize.

They are nice though because when they are ready I just give them a thorough shaking and it knocks all my crystals lose from the thick layer of goo. So I get both without any fuss.

BILL!!! Weigh that up, we need to know the details. I can never tell just by looking because sometimes it's so much fluffier than others.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21782493 - 06/09/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

its drying now VIA a fan, and unfortunately the yield isn't as big as it looks in the picture anymore.

oh well. I should get half of a gram off each pyrex when all is said and done.


Question for you guys..


So when I weigh out my DMT...I weigh out 50mg..and it literally looks like a 300mg. There is no way I could consume the 50mg in 1 smoking session. So what does this mean? Does this mean ill have a harder time breaking-through?

Literally, 1 gram looks like 3 grams. I don't know why. So when I take a hit, am I even going to feel it? because 1 hit will only be like 5mg probably, when though it looks like 15-20mg.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21782505 - 06/09/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What did your overnight solution look like? Did you start with powdered RB?

I just recieved my ACRB via mail and am trying to saturate myself with as much info as possible.

Light's tek is regarded as one of the best. How did you deviate from it?

Any advice for a first timer?

Thanks!


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Myopic.Skam] * 1
    #21782537 - 06/09/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

it had 2 different layers to it, due to the vinegar.

I started from powdered.

I didn't use that tek. I used sort of a hybrid that I have crafted myself from reading other teks.


its the easiest way, but still involves some work.


all I do is..


add the vinegar..400ml water and my 60g bark in a big pickle jar(extraction vessel)

let it sit for a few hours.

Then I salt it. Throw 300ml water into a pan, boil the water. then I add 80g salt to it and stir until it dissolves. then I add that mixture to the vessel, plus another 700ml water. So all-together theres about 1400ml water.

then I defat it. I have a method to go about this quickly, but its hard to explain.

after its de-fatted, I add 50ml naptha, mix, then wait. I discard the naptha from the solution.


then you add 35g lye, stir. Wait a few minutes.


Then you are ready to start adding naptha and pulling.

the rest is self explanatory.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782540 - 06/09/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you have a dab rig, you really don't need that much. 15-20mg is all I need. Sometimes I will do two 10mg hits back to back. I really kinda have to force myself to stay coherent for the second hit. Can't really comment on smoking the crystal though. Vaporizing is absolutely the way to do it provided you have the means to do so. Dab rig is really the best way to go. Get a domeless nail with carb cap, works so well.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: daytripper05]
    #21782546 - 06/09/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yo good shit Bill :thumbup:


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: psilocybinjunkie] * 1
    #21782559 - 06/09/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thank you! it took a lot of practice to get to where I am now with it.

and day tripper, I need to get a rig. I had one but it got lost when I moved.

the only thing I don't like about the dab rig is its very hard to take a second hit because you are in hyperspace tying to fiddle with torch lighters and glass and whatnot.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782575 - 06/09/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I agree about the fiddling with shit... Add a dark room with no real light and it gets even harder. I wear a LED headlamp with a red light so I can see in the dark. It's night because the light doesn't affect the people blasting off (you can't see the red light with your eyes closed).

I am going to get a Nectar Collector style device. I am pretty much convinced this is the perfect way to consume DMT crystal. Literally you could make 50mg lines like you would with coke or something and just use the vaporizing wand to vape as much or as little as you need. At least with this method, there is no loading, no dab stick, no carb cap. Only the torch and wand/device and the pile of crystal to be consumed.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782576 - 06/09/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Adding naphtha to the acidified mix is the defat so after you've done your defat you add your lye not add naphtha unless that was a mistake,  don't do a defat near the start just do a mini a/b at the end, and you need more lye so go with 60g, it helps lyce the bark and break up emulsion plus reach the desired ph, more lye didn't cause any problems, do what I do and you'll get better yields unless your bark is crap


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: daytripper05]
    #21782579 - 06/09/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nectar Collector is just a brand. I have seen similar devices of all sizes and prices, but this is the basic concept (for those that don't know what I'm talking about).

https://nectarcollector.org/


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1] * 1
    #21782586 - 06/09/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Extraction

100g of bark added to 2 litre bottle

900ml of water mixed with 100ml of white vinegar then added to bottle

80g of sea salt mixed with 400ml of boiling water, then added to bottle once cooled

60g of lye mixed with 300ml of cold water then added to bottle

Leave bottle for 2 hours then add 50ml of naphtha, roll for 1 min then let seperate repeat 4 times, do 6 x 50 ml of naptha pulls

Can do warm pulls,room temp pulls or cold pulls, can also have the base warm or room temp it dosent matter

Mini a/b
In a 1 litre bottle add 500ml of room temp water mixed with 60ml of white vinegar

Place naphtha pulls into 1 litre bottle roll for 5 min and let seperate repeat 3 times

Remove naphtha from bottle and discard

Place 200ml of cold water into jug and add 50g of lye then add to bottle,  dmt will crash out and turn the bottle milky

Add 50ml of naphtha and roll for 1 min and let seperate do this 5 more times then pull and place in pyrex dish, evaporate half to 3 quarters with fan then place dish into freezer for 48hrs,  remove place straight under fan to evaporate or pour off remaining naphtha then place under fan to dry, once dry scrape crystals off pyrex

Keep your base mix and go back and do a few more pulls after a couple of days to exhaust the bark


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21782596 - 06/09/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The naptha isn't the whole defat step..theres a lot of gunk the naptha cant get, so I use a turkey baster and some other materials to suck up the gunk fatty stuff. after I do that, then I do the naptha step.

I will try to add more lye, but awhile ago I remember having better/cleaner yields when I used less naptha. When I was using 50g lye, half my yield was red waxy stuff. After I lowered it down to 35g, I was getting much less red stuff and more powder.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21782600 - 06/09/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

sbc1 said:
Adding naphtha to the acidified mix is the defat so after you've done your defat you add your lye not add naphtha unless that was a mistake,  don't do a defat near the start just do a mini a/b at the end, and you need more lye so go with 60g, it helps lyce the bark and break up emulsion plus reach the desired ph, more lye didn't cause any problems, do what I do and you'll get better yields unless your bark is crap




I agree. I use 50g of lye when I do batches of ACRB that are 50g. Like you said, the higher the PH the less likely you are to have an emulsion and it's not going to affect your yields negatively. But after a certain point you just don't need any more.

I also don't do a defat with ACRB and instead just do a mini A/B. If you are still only getting 1% yields after an overnight soak, I bet the bark is just weak. I am pulling 2.3% from powdered root bark.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21782609 - 06/09/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Plus when I add my bark to the bottle and add my acidified water I freeze and thaw it for a week to lyce the cells, 24hrs in then 24hrs out, then on the last thaw I thaw for 2-3 days till its room temp


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21782617 - 06/09/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Me to daytripper im getting 3g off 100g


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782654 - 06/09/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you are getting red waxy stuff in your DMT, I bet you are sucking up small particles of your alkaline soup. Try getting a glass pipette from Amazon for $4. It's 10x more accurate when pulling your naptha.

I have several sizes of these and they work great. I like to keep a couple on hand because if suck up the alkaline soup, it starts to stick to the glass. I use a clean dry pipette if the other gets dirty.

http://www.amazon.com/SEOH-Dropping-Pipette-Pipet-250mm/dp/B00KI25US2/ref=sr_1_1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1433867340&sr=1-1&keywords=glass+pipette

Also, try pulling in a more narrow extraction vessel. I use a 1L erlenmeyer flask and during the final pull I use the most narrow part of the neck to ensure I get a nice clean pull. I have a glass turkey baster and I honestly don't know why/how people use those. They are great for sucking up large volumes of liquid, but pretty poor for precision.

One thing I also do before I do a Mini A/B... I pull all my naptha into a glass beaker. I cover with plastic wrap between pulls to keep moisture/air out. Once all my pulls are done, any sediment with sink to the bottom. I them use my baster and pipettes to suck off the naptha from this beaker into another. All the tiny amounts of sediment that get sucked up with be at the bottom of the beaker (or stuck to the sides). At this point, my naptha is just yellow and slightly cloudy, but absolutely no sediment.

Then once you go to the mini A/B, you suck the yellow naptha back off the top and you are left with a really white product.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782665 - 06/09/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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The naptha isn't the whole defat step..theres a lot of gunk the naptha cant get, so I use a turkey baster and some other materials to suck up the gunk fatty stuff. after I do that, then I do the naptha step.

I will try to add more lye, but awhile ago I remember having better/cleaner yields when I used less naptha. When I was using 50g lye, half my yield was red waxy stuff. After I lowered it down to 35g, I was getting much less red stuff and more powder.



The lye will have nothing to do with it if you do the mini a/b or a re-ex it will clean your spice up, its probably because your base is to hot or your pulling a bit of your base, also don't powder your bark you end up with fine particles in your naphtha, plus acasia has more fats and oils than mimosa,  just follow that what I put and do the mini a/b and you'll be good


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21782705 - 06/09/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok thanks guys


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782761 - 06/09/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

sorry for the noobish question bill but is ACRB  acacia root bark?

would love to give this a try! :smile:

never tried dmt before.

edit: my 1000th post and my journey has finally has turned a corner and led me to the start of another path...

dmt :crazy2:


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: mustangbob3]
    #21782777 - 06/09/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

mustangbob3 said:
sorry for the noobish question bill but is ACRB  acacia root bark?

would love to give this a try! :smile:



Yeah acacia confusa and mhrb is mimosa hostilis root bark


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21782785 - 06/09/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thanks!

1 more thing when you said 'roll for 5 mins'

is that to roll the liquid round the glass?

just trying to get my head around the process and a few terms are unfamiliar to me.

thanks for the help!

what yeilds more mimosa or acacia?
sorry again for the questions:thumbup:


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: mustangbob3] * 1
    #21782901 - 06/09/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Acasia confusa is they way to go right now in the US. Quality mimosa is harder to obtain since there aren't many (if any) quality vendors left distributing from within the US. You can't get it on ebay anymore for example. Even though the legality around mimosa hasn't changed, people aren't using it as much any more since it's harder to obtain quality bark.

The ACRB I am getting is just as bit as good as mimosa yields, if not better. The only difference if you have to spend more time on a clean up step, the mini a/b unless you want to consume the goo. I like both personally, but good clean crystal is just so more cool and has a real "wow" factor when you show it to people.

As to what yields more entirely depends on the bark itself, extraction process, and materials used. I went the extra mile and bought all lab grade glass wear and a hot plate magnetic stirrer so it's easier for me to get higher yields even with the margin of error (spilling drops of naptha from the pulls, etc). But at the end of the day, it all goes back to the bark.

Order 500g or less from a vendor until you find a vendor that gives you yields over 2%. The first couple times you might get poor yields due to process. But eventually you get the process down and it's reliable and you can count on X yield once you know how good you bark is.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: mustangbob3] * 1
    #21782909 - 06/09/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

mustangbob3 said:
thanks!

1 more thing when you said 'roll for 5 mins'

is that to roll the liquid round the glass?

just trying to get my head around the process and a few terms are unfamiliar to me.

thanks for the help!

what yeilds more mimosa or acacia?
sorry again for the questions:thumbup:



Yeah as if you were peddling a bike, your best off with mimosa it has less fats and oils so you don't need a defat or mini a/b but acacia is probably more available


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21782915 - 06/09/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

As daytripper said, I'm in the uk so can get either, I prefer mimosa


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21782922 - 06/09/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yup, 100% agree. If I could mimosa ordered to my house without being suspected of you know what... I would get it save the time. The mini A/B basically adds another day to the process. I do the main extraction on day 1, and the mini a/b and then start the freeze precip on day 2. It's a pain, but worth it for clean crystal.


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    #21782980 - 06/09/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Looks good bill. I will have to try this in a couple of weeks.


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    #21783004 - 06/09/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dang man. I'm seeing a lot of folks on the shroomery do these DMT extractions now. Makes me want to try... :evil:


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    #21783005 - 06/09/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yup, 100% agree. If I could mimosa ordered to my house without being suspected of you know what... I would get it save the time. The mini A/B basically adds another day to the process. I do the main extraction on day 1, and the mini a/b and then start the freeze precip on day 2. It's a pain, but worth it for clean crystal.



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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Mescalitoe]
    #21783048 - 06/09/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: mustangbob3]
    #21783064 - 06/09/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

@Bill I often get different crystal densities too. Must be difficult for people without a scale, cause 50mg really can look like 150 sometimes. I think the density depends on how fast you freeze precipitate the crystals. If you put the warm naphtha straight into the freezer, it will all precipitate quickly as light, fluffy, snow-like powder. Letting it settle to room temp, then fridge, then freezer over a period of time allows the crystals to precipitate on themselves, creating less but denser crystals when scraped up.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21783190 - 06/09/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeahh , gj bill :yesnod:

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@Bill I often get different crystal densities too. Must be difficult for people without a scale, cause 50mg really can look like 150 sometimes. I think the density depends on how fast you freeze precipitate the crystals. If you put the warm naphtha straight into the freezer, it will all precipitate quickly as light, fluffy, snow-like powder. Letting it settle to room temp, then fridge, then freezer over a period of time allows the crystals to precipitate on themselves, creating less but denser crystals when scraped up.




:whathesaid: makes sense judging from my past extraction . I think freezing time also does play a role in this , I get less but denser crystals when I let it sit in the freezer for a longer period of time .

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Me to daytripper im getting 3g off 100g




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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Icon]
    #21783255 - 06/09/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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@Bill I often get different crystal densities too. Must be difficult for people without a scale, cause 50mg really can look like 150 sometimes. I think the density depends on how fast you freeze precipitate the crystals. If you put the warm naphtha straight into the freezer, it will all precipitate quickly as light, fluffy, snow-like powder. Letting it settle to room temp, then fridge, then freezer over a period of time allows the crystals to precipitate on themselves, creating less but denser crystals when scraped up.





yeah mine are really fluffy snow-like powder type crystals.


does this mean I will need to smoke what looks like 150mg to breakthrough?? because that's next to impossible.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21783341 - 06/09/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah mine are really fluffy snow-like powder type crystals.


does this mean I will need to smoke what looks like 150mg to breakthrough?? because that's next to impossible.




Not sure haha, I guess so. Could liquify it onto some leaves or something more manageable to smoke.


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    #21783470 - 06/09/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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@Bill I often get different crystal densities too. Must be difficult for people without a scale, cause 50mg really can look like 150 sometimes. I think the density depends on how fast you freeze precipitate the crystals. If you put the warm naphtha straight into the freezer, it will all precipitate quickly as light, fluffy, snow-like powder. Letting it settle to room temp, then fridge, then freezer over a period of time allows the crystals to precipitate on themselves, creating less but denser crystals when scraped up.





yeah mine are really fluffy snow-like powder type crystals.


does this mean I will need to smoke what looks like 150mg to breakthrough?? because that's next to impossible.



No definitely don't smoke 150mg you'll still only need between 20 and 50mg, 50mg is still 50mg at the end of the day


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    #21784010 - 06/09/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah mine are really fluffy snow-like powder type crystals.


does this mean I will need to smoke what looks like 150mg to breakthrough?? because that's next to impossible.







Glad i'm not the only one that ran into this, mine are super fluffy as well....totally throws me off because I put what looks to be 20mg to 30mg in the pipe, then nothing beyond threshold happens, I've done this like 10 times now. I've come to the conclusion this particular stuff is waaaay way more fluffy and less dense than any other d material I've worked with.


I've considered just melting all the x'tal into one consolidated  piece, seems much easier to eye-ball and work with compared to the fluffy stuff , or make changa....





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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21784475 - 06/09/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Good job Bill!

Proud of ya!

How much DMT krystalz do u think is in that pyrex baking pan?


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21784712 - 06/09/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I had 2 of them that looked pretty much the same.

I don't know, probably 400mg or so


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21784910 - 06/09/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nice dude. :thumbup:

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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21785873 - 06/09/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not yet, man. Its just ive been out of the psychedelic loop for so long now, only tripping once every few months, I just cant get myself to hit the deems. A lot has to do with my opiate addiction...until I get that under control I just have too much fear that the deems will rip me a new asshole for not addressing it like I should.

but yeah guys, I have a bad feeling this whole fluffy DMT thing is going to be a huge problem for not only me, but the people I share my product with. I don't want them thinking the dmt is weak because its so light and fluffy. They probably wont have the lung capacity to Inhale what LOOKS like 150mg(when its really 50mg).

is there anyway I can fix this? I just want regular DMT, damnit! its like theres also some stupid catch/stipulation when you make your own stuff. With mushrooms...they end up being weak...with DMT..you end up getting jungle spice or fluffy crystals...ugh


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    #21785880 - 06/09/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

bill...

cut it up with a razor.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21786227 - 06/09/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ive read somewhere that if you slowly freeze-precipitate, such as first day u leave your naptha at room temp, second day u put in the fridge, third day u put in the freezer.

Ive read that this slow and gradual process makes the DMT crystal more dense.

Could try that.


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    #21786617 - 06/10/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Way to go. More photos please


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21786989 - 06/10/15 05:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Ive read somewhere that if you slowly freeze-precipitate, such as first day u leave your naptha at room temp, second day u put in the fridge, third day u put in the freezer.

Ive read that this slow and gradual process makes the DMT crystal more dense.

Could try that.




Thanks man. Much appreciated


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    #21786991 - 06/10/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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bill...

cut it up with a razor.





That wont do anything besides make my situation worse :lol:


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    #21787014 - 06/10/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Can you smoke jungle spice just like crystals if i were to dry it out a little..or is there a specific way jungle spice has to be smoked?


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21787350 - 06/10/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Plus when I add my bark to the bottle and add my acidified water I freeze and thaw it for a week to lyce the cells, 24hrs in then 24hrs out, then on the last thaw I thaw for 2-3 days till its room temp




do you mean with just the acidified  water?
i.e water and vinegar + bark and then freeze and thaw for a week to lyce before returning to room temp and adding
the sea salt water and the lye water and continuing from there?


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    #21787501 - 06/10/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Not yet, man. Its just ive been out of the psychedelic loop for so long now, only tripping once every few months, I just cant get myself to hit the deems. A lot has to do with my opiate addiction...until I get that under control I just have too much fear that the deems will rip me a new asshole for not addressing it like I should.

but yeah guys, I have a bad feeling this whole fluffy DMT thing is going to be a huge problem for not only me, but the people I share my product with. I don't want them thinking the dmt is weak because its so light and fluffy. They probably wont have the lung capacity to Inhale what LOOKS like 150mg(when its really 50mg).

is there anyway I can fix this? I just want regular DMT, damnit! its like theres also some stupid catch/stipulation when you make your own stuff. With mushrooms...they end up being weak...with DMT..you end up getting jungle spice or fluffy crystals...ugh




well are the fluffy crystals more white than what you've been pulling before? IME the fluffy is often very white and people are impressed by that aesthetic. I think you're exaggerating the difficulty of smoking it. Once it starts vaping, 20mg, 50mg - it all goes. It may be even easier for people to breakthrough with it because the same amount of crystal is separated into so much more surface area.

You could recrystallize slowly and get even more pure, dense, pretty crystals.


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    #21787535 - 06/10/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Plus when I add my bark to the bottle and add my acidified water I freeze and thaw it for a week to lyce the cells, 24hrs in then 24hrs out, then on the last thaw I thaw for 2-3 days till its room temp




do you mean with just the acidified  water?
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the sea salt water and the lye water and continuing from there?



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    #21787728 - 06/10/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thanks got it down now going give it a try in few weeks :thumbup:
thanks for the help

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    #21787809 - 06/10/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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thanks got it down now going give it a try in few weeks :thumbup:
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    #21788170 - 06/10/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Can you smoke jungle spice just like crystals if i were to dry it out a little..or is there a specific way jungle spice has to be smoked?




I would smoke jungle spice like you would hash oil: with a microtorch and health stone or on a dab nail.


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    #21788215 - 06/10/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Can you smoke jungle spice just like crystals if i were to dry it out a little..or is there a specific way jungle spice has to be smoked?




wax/goo is not jungle spice.

To get jungle spice or as the old heads call it, JIMJAM, you need MHRB. It's just not in acacia.

You need to pull with heated naphtha until no more dmt comes out. TheN use another solvent like toluene, this will pull out a new substance that does have some dmt in it but also some other mystery alkaloids.

It would be smoked just like any other dmt, can even make CHANGA with it.


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    #21788270 - 06/10/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

can the goo/axy stuff be smoked like regular deems or does it not burn well?

that was my question


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    #21788371 - 06/10/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yea , you can smoke it just like regular deems .if its really goey and its hard to grab, you can try to scrape it with a pin like you would do with BHO . then u lit the pin and let it drip down the pin onto your weed . then vaporize it in the weed then smoke it .


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    #21788391 - 06/10/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ime it burns so much better than the crystals. The plant fats or whatever that makes it gooey, I feel like it coats and protects the molecule, as well as frying it like an egg in bacon grease. This is all my own conjecture of course.

I love the goo, that's why I never fuss with trying to turn it into crystals, just take crystals as they come.

The goo is like a hash oil when it coats weed, like the weed will barely even burn while its cherried.

You are already pretty 'rough' with your lighter when you smoke it bill, in comparison to some others, so I think the goo is right up your alley.

You always make some of the best trip reports, so I'm eagerly awaiting you to finally smoke your spice.:datass:


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    #21788498 - 06/10/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ill be sure to write a report once I finally get to it. Its just been so long, I think I have psyched myself out. Im hyping up the experience so much to the point im thinking I cant handle it or something, due to my previous trips with it. Its almost as if I feel like I have experienced the what I wanted to from it, and now anything else will just be too taxing in order to enjoy. Its odd, I never really "enjoyed" DMT because of its intensity, much like how many people don't enjoy salvia.


I mean, its awesome stuff that's beyond cool, but its not euphoric hardly. This makes me not eager to dive in. But boy, do I want to. I mean ive spent so much fucking time and effort on extracting it, reading about it...studying it..that it seems like I should just smoke it. But for some reason, I just cant. Maybe someday soon ill just force myself...ill just go in and try not to think about it.



about the goo...what I have been doing is drying out my goo with a fan. I mean It doesn't get crispy dry, but it turns into a waxy-like substance that is much more easier to handle.


I just wish average folk who I deal with liked goo/waxy DMT. They want crystals because its the norm and just easy to smoke.

i mean getting people to smoke the stuff is hard enough...getting them to smoke a goop is much harder :lol:


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #21789210 - 06/10/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I know exactly what you mean about psyching yourself out. I also get intimidated the longer I wait between blastoffs. When I first started extracting I was blasting off pretty often. Multiple times a day.

Now though I use it much much more sparingly. I think mostly because it was so new to me I couldn't get enough. And I was learning to smoke it so each time I got better. Now I have my technique and equipment down enough that there is a level of consistency.

I get all psyched out of its been a while, but once I blow out that first hit, it's just like coming back into grandma's house. The famialiarity is  uncanny and I feel so welcome and comfortable . Even the impossible is happening all around me and I have an insane body high, it just feels right.

Also, don't underestimate the ability of the DMT to teach you any more than it has. You may feel that you've learned enough, but then this shit will just flip the switch and you realize you've just been in the lobby of the school this whole time and not even stepping foot in the class room with a teacher.
If that makes any sense.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21789410 - 06/10/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

^^ makes perfect sense.

maybe I used the inappropriate language, because I really don't feel like I learned all there is to the DMT experience, a better way to put it is that I "learned enough". I certainly wouldn't be naïve to actually think I learned everything there is in a space that's virtually infinite.

I guess I need to just hit the damn pipe knowing that its going to take me to home. And I always remember how whenever I am nervous and I hit it, it always holds me tight. It has this way of always giving you what you need. Its weird, now I feel like my mission is to get as many people as I can to hit it. I get the most satisfying feeling when I introduce somebody new to hyperspace, because I remember when I was unable to get it how bad I wanted someone to get me to hyperspace.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21789617 - 06/10/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just hit a little bit. Like a small dose that could never blast you off just to get the feeling of DMT running through your veins. Work your way up from there to ease your way through your fear or intimidation or whatever it is.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: daytripper05]
    #21790062 - 06/10/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey how is everyone? Would yall recommend The Lazyman's TEK for a first timer like myself? I don't understand the other TEKs out there-I don't know the vocabulary used or understand the procedures. I like the Lazyman's TEK because it doesn't require much equipment or a freezer (my freezer is always completely full & doesn't get bone chilling cold), it sounds pretty easy, the yields don't seem bad & they don't look bad either.

Enjoy those sweet crystals Bill.
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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21790144 - 06/10/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
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rxb said:
bill...

cut it up with a razor.





That wont do anything besides make my situation worse :lol:




not so sure, if the fluffyness is because the crystalsize is large... then making it smaller will decrease the foot print...

like... agar (it gets smaller the more you refine it)

or... sugar... if you measure a cup of granulated sugar, and then put it in a blender, you can get it down to about 3/4 cup.

now if static between particles is spreading them out... then NO it wont help, and then you need to try and refine your tek for LARGER crystal size.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: rxb]
    #21790328 - 06/10/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well its not really because of large crystallization. I normally get little dots on the bottom of the dish and still run into the same problem.

it just so happens that this last batch came out with big snow-flakeish clumps.

but I will try that.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21790332 - 06/10/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

right now I have 2 dishes chilling in the refrigerator. Im going to let them sit overnight and in the morning Im going to stick them in the freezer.

maybe that will help :shrug:


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21791068 - 06/10/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think its worth a try :thumbup:

Slow and gradual precipitation may be the answer.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21791433 - 06/11/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

once you have the freebase..

could you dissolve back in naptha to make a super saturated solution and then hang a string in to a beaker just touching the naptha to 'grow' large crystals that are dense clear and pretty and weight several gram each?

like grow the first crystals on the string the transfer to new solution to grow further ect..

so making these-



growing crystals from a super saturated solution is easy its kids stuff!

this is how it is done but would it work with naptha normally just water is used but is no good in this case as we need to dissolve into the liquid to make it super saturated?



EDIT: if you tie a knot in the end it starts to build crystals quicker and if you tie a little crystal on the string end it will happen even faster.

another tip is the crystals follow a similar growth pattern to the one attached to the string.
so if you use a real pretty and clean cut crystal alot of the time it will remain in this style and build onto itself.
so in the end you have real nice looking crystals.
is you use a crystal with several clean cut coloumns you can get some real nice formations!
this hopefully will hold true for the dmt!
i guess it should:smile:


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: mustangbob3]
    #21791541 - 06/11/15 02:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You should definitely try it and let us no, don't see no reason why it shouldn't work it's been done before,
 
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=26643


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21791558 - 06/11/15 02:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thanks! this way the crystal will form slowly in stable conditions(i.e temps) and will be really even, dense and pure!

maybe bill could use this too alter the density of his fluffy stuff?

you could possibly even use heptane instead of naptha it this step as its more selective

would i be fine recycling the naptha too?

i guess as the freebase is removed its just naptha and i can reuse it in more extractions so i dont have keep buying as much.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: mustangbob3]
    #21791633 - 06/11/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah you can reuse the naphtha I do sometimes when im running out, let us no how you get on


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21791661 - 06/11/15 03:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

will make a thread with pics of each step if people are interested?


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: mustangbob3]
    #21791680 - 06/11/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Looks good.  You must be like 21


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: SnowDaze]
    #21791694 - 06/11/15 04:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Looks good.  You must be like 21





im not sure i know what you mean?

21 years old?

so only 21 year olds would consider making their own dmt?
or show/document the process?

what makes you think that?

im curious?

you must have a reason and proof of such to think that or is it just pulled out your ass :shrug:

i dont see anything immature about wanting to try dmt and wanting to make it myself!
sorry im not the guy who can go buy some crystal off a dude i dont know for stupid prices and to not even no if it is infact what i paid for!
safety first pal!

and i dont see the harm in helping others to do the same if thats what they want to do!

again safety first!




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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: mustangbob3]
    #21791729 - 06/11/15 04:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nothing to do with the synth

Just giving the OP shit cause I have rolled his self righteous posts for a long time

And. Not even serious

Just poking fun


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: SnowDaze]
    #21791731 - 06/11/15 04:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

oh sorry thought you was directing it at me lol :skol:

gotcha :thumbup:


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: mustangbob3] * 1
    #21791744 - 06/11/15 04:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No. You all take things way too serious

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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: SnowDaze]
    #21791902 - 06/11/15 06:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Looks good.  You must be like 21





Lets see your crystals


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21791960 - 06/11/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sodium carb wash your naphtha after pulling and you'll get even cleaner and bigger precipitate

Also if you want to really get good yields get a sep funnel. Not having one is the biggest corner to cut in an A/B extraction


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21792474 - 06/11/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This isn't directed any any person in particular, just a general FYI...

Here is 20 minute video from MIT covering some of the basics of chemistry in the lab. This video is on recrystallization. Tip to those that want to get great yields of white shiny crystal... Learn the basics behind science. DMT can be made like people bake a cake, but you end up with loads of questions and endless speculation. I highly recommend everyone take some time and actually learn as much of the chemistry as you can.

http://ocw.mit.edu/resources/res-5-0001-digital-lab-techniques-manual-spring-2007/videos/recrystallization/


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: daytripper05] * 1
    #21794518 - 06/11/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Out of curiosity; is there a way to see if you have done everything correctly...ie...smell, taste???

  Or do you just have to fire up the torch, grip it and rip it and hope for the best?!?!?!


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Lawnboy1185]
    #21795220 - 06/11/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Will have a flowery smell/moth balls


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Lawnboy1185]
    #21795474 - 06/11/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Out of curiosity; is there a way to see if you have done everything correctly...ie...smell, taste???

  Or do you just have to fire up the torch, grip it and rip it and hope for the best?!?!?!



The same test kit for LSD, works on dmt.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21796895 - 06/12/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

haha got it!


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