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Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... * 2
    #21782391 - 06/09/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like im finally finding my groove with this. This is my first pull from 60g ACRB



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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782392 - 06/09/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you read that tek didnt you :smile:


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782393 - 06/09/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Tek?


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21782398 - 06/09/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i sent him the thick light tek when he was struggling :smile:


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->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <-

. i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications)

[quote]Enlil said:
I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: rxb] * 1
    #21782405 - 06/09/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I did, but I didn't follow it because it involved materials that I couldn't get at the moment.

BUT

what I did do, was listen to you guys advice. I started letting the vinegar/water/bark sit overnight rather than just an hour.

I also pre-evapped prior to freeze-prec for about an 1-2 hours.

I also cut down on the lye..instead of using 50g lye I used 35g.


thank you guys :rockon:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782440 - 06/09/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

nice...im thinking of setting up a Tesla turbine to vacuum evap



something like that :smile:


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->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <-

. i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications)

[quote]Enlil said:
I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782458 - 06/09/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Everybody uses those Pyrex dishes...

I wish I had room in the freezer for that cause I use 1/4 pint mason jars. And I feel like it soxsmall it doesn't let all the product crystallize.

They are nice though because when they are ready I just give them a thorough shaking and it knocks all my crystals lose from the thick layer of goo. So I get both without any fuss.

BILL!!! Weigh that up, we need to know the details. I can never tell just by looking because sometimes it's so much fluffier than others.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21782493 - 06/09/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

its drying now VIA a fan, and unfortunately the yield isn't as big as it looks in the picture anymore.

oh well. I should get half of a gram off each pyrex when all is said and done.


Question for you guys..


So when I weigh out my DMT...I weigh out 50mg..and it literally looks like a 300mg. There is no way I could consume the 50mg in 1 smoking session. So what does this mean? Does this mean ill have a harder time breaking-through?

Literally, 1 gram looks like 3 grams. I don't know why. So when I take a hit, am I even going to feel it? because 1 hit will only be like 5mg probably, when though it looks like 15-20mg.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21782505 - 06/09/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What did your overnight solution look like? Did you start with powdered RB?

I just recieved my ACRB via mail and am trying to saturate myself with as much info as possible.

Light's tek is regarded as one of the best. How did you deviate from it?

Any advice for a first timer?

Thanks!


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Myopic.Skam] * 1
    #21782537 - 06/09/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

it had 2 different layers to it, due to the vinegar.

I started from powdered.

I didn't use that tek. I used sort of a hybrid that I have crafted myself from reading other teks.


its the easiest way, but still involves some work.


all I do is..


add the vinegar..400ml water and my 60g bark in a big pickle jar(extraction vessel)

let it sit for a few hours.

Then I salt it. Throw 300ml water into a pan, boil the water. then I add 80g salt to it and stir until it dissolves. then I add that mixture to the vessel, plus another 700ml water. So all-together theres about 1400ml water.

then I defat it. I have a method to go about this quickly, but its hard to explain.

after its de-fatted, I add 50ml naptha, mix, then wait. I discard the naptha from the solution.


then you add 35g lye, stir. Wait a few minutes.


Then you are ready to start adding naptha and pulling.

the rest is self explanatory.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782540 - 06/09/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you have a dab rig, you really don't need that much. 15-20mg is all I need. Sometimes I will do two 10mg hits back to back. I really kinda have to force myself to stay coherent for the second hit. Can't really comment on smoking the crystal though. Vaporizing is absolutely the way to do it provided you have the means to do so. Dab rig is really the best way to go. Get a domeless nail with carb cap, works so well.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: daytripper05]
    #21782546 - 06/09/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yo good shit Bill :thumbup:


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: psilocybinjunkie] * 1
    #21782559 - 06/09/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thank you! it took a lot of practice to get to where I am now with it.

and day tripper, I need to get a rig. I had one but it got lost when I moved.

the only thing I don't like about the dab rig is its very hard to take a second hit because you are in hyperspace tying to fiddle with torch lighters and glass and whatnot.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782575 - 06/09/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I agree about the fiddling with shit... Add a dark room with no real light and it gets even harder. I wear a LED headlamp with a red light so I can see in the dark. It's night because the light doesn't affect the people blasting off (you can't see the red light with your eyes closed).

I am going to get a Nectar Collector style device. I am pretty much convinced this is the perfect way to consume DMT crystal. Literally you could make 50mg lines like you would with coke or something and just use the vaporizing wand to vape as much or as little as you need. At least with this method, there is no loading, no dab stick, no carb cap. Only the torch and wand/device and the pile of crystal to be consumed.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21782576 - 06/09/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Adding naphtha to the acidified mix is the defat so after you've done your defat you add your lye not add naphtha unless that was a mistake,  don't do a defat near the start just do a mini a/b at the end, and you need more lye so go with 60g, it helps lyce the bark and break up emulsion plus reach the desired ph, more lye didn't cause any problems, do what I do and you'll get better yields unless your bark is crap


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: daytripper05]
    #21782579 - 06/09/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nectar Collector is just a brand. I have seen similar devices of all sizes and prices, but this is the basic concept (for those that don't know what I'm talking about).

https://nectarcollector.org/


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1] * 1
    #21782586 - 06/09/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Extraction

100g of bark added to 2 litre bottle

900ml of water mixed with 100ml of white vinegar then added to bottle

80g of sea salt mixed with 400ml of boiling water, then added to bottle once cooled

60g of lye mixed with 300ml of cold water then added to bottle

Leave bottle for 2 hours then add 50ml of naphtha, roll for 1 min then let seperate repeat 4 times, do 6 x 50 ml of naptha pulls

Can do warm pulls,room temp pulls or cold pulls, can also have the base warm or room temp it dosent matter

Mini a/b
In a 1 litre bottle add 500ml of room temp water mixed with 60ml of white vinegar

Place naphtha pulls into 1 litre bottle roll for 5 min and let seperate repeat 3 times

Remove naphtha from bottle and discard

Place 200ml of cold water into jug and add 50g of lye then add to bottle,  dmt will crash out and turn the bottle milky

Add 50ml of naphtha and roll for 1 min and let seperate do this 5 more times then pull and place in pyrex dish, evaporate half to 3 quarters with fan then place dish into freezer for 48hrs,  remove place straight under fan to evaporate or pour off remaining naphtha then place under fan to dry, once dry scrape crystals off pyrex

Keep your base mix and go back and do a few more pulls after a couple of days to exhaust the bark


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21782596 - 06/09/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The naptha isn't the whole defat step..theres a lot of gunk the naptha cant get, so I use a turkey baster and some other materials to suck up the gunk fatty stuff. after I do that, then I do the naptha step.

I will try to add more lye, but awhile ago I remember having better/cleaner yields when I used less naptha. When I was using 50g lye, half my yield was red waxy stuff. After I lowered it down to 35g, I was getting much less red stuff and more powder.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21782600 - 06/09/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Adding naphtha to the acidified mix is the defat so after you've done your defat you add your lye not add naphtha unless that was a mistake,  don't do a defat near the start just do a mini a/b at the end, and you need more lye so go with 60g, it helps lyce the bark and break up emulsion plus reach the desired ph, more lye didn't cause any problems, do what I do and you'll get better yields unless your bark is crap




I agree. I use 50g of lye when I do batches of ACRB that are 50g. Like you said, the higher the PH the less likely you are to have an emulsion and it's not going to affect your yields negatively. But after a certain point you just don't need any more.

I also don't do a defat with ACRB and instead just do a mini A/B. If you are still only getting 1% yields after an overnight soak, I bet the bark is just weak. I am pulling 2.3% from powdered root bark.


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Re: Bill Oreilly is getting good at extracting... [Re: sbc1]
    #21782609 - 06/09/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Plus when I add my bark to the bottle and add my acidified water I freeze and thaw it for a week to lyce the cells, 24hrs in then 24hrs out, then on the last thaw I thaw for 2-3 days till its room temp


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