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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #21778188 - 06/08/15 10:41 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Asante, it seems clear you had a spiritual experience of some sort. Those are always nice, not everyone gets them. Translating it into everyday life is where we go wrong most often. Best of luck and good vibes your way.


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21778220 - 06/08/15 10:50 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Thank you Stonehenge, indeed a spiritual experience it is, a very potent one, judging by how strongly it affects me. I'm gonna ride the wild surf and then let it subside to more mundane life. Its going to be a step up, but not as manic as it is now :smile2:

What a ride though :mindblown:

I won't lose the plot, no worries, it'll do its thing and put me safely on the ground.


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: 1234go]
    #21778430 - 06/08/15 11:45 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

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Why we are here is a philosophical question and imo philosophy is a circle jerk of bullshit.





Science has proved to be a giant circle jerk of bullshit as well, it's guesswork.

Truth is subjective, are people ever gonna accept that?



link?  no i dont know what you meant




"Link?" :flowstone: get outta here with that "link?"..this thread is personal belief, not race violence statistics.

I wasn't talkin to you, but I meant "personal truth" is subjective.
What we hold dear and true in our hearts, is all the truth we need to know.



link?


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #21778954 - 06/08/15 02:15 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

:iseewhatyoudidthere:


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #21779000 - 06/08/15 02:26 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

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link?



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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: twighead] * 1
    #21779013 - 06/08/15 02:30 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: The Doobie Dude] * 1
    #21779027 - 06/08/15 02:33 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

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"Link?" :flowstone: get outta here with that "link?"..this thread is personal belief, not race violence statistics.

I wasn't talkin to you, but I meant "personal truth" is subjective.
What we hold dear and true in our hearts, is all the truth we need to know.



link?




You may think of yourself as well read and intelligent or whatever, but when dealing with matters of personal, spiritual experience, you seem to be rather ignorant.


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: twighead] * 1
    #21779308 - 06/08/15 03:25 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

:whathesaid:
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link?



:ban:





:whathesaid:

:lolsy:


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: The Doobie Dude] * 2
    #21779371 - 06/08/15 03:37 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

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Once was but no longer is

Ahhhh wiki you got me man the link is just too damn reliable


stop with this hippie pseudo shit or at least give me a good argument




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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #21779453 - 06/08/15 03:59 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

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link?





Yes, be totally predictable...all I expect.

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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: propensity]
    #21779459 - 06/08/15 04:02 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

The Doobie Dude said:
stop with this hippie pseudo shit or at least give me a good argument




It's funny becouse all you have said in your defense is wiki sucks :lol:


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

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I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: musiclover420] * 2
    #21779680 - 06/08/15 05:11 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)



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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21779684 - 06/08/15 05:12 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

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The Doobie Dude said:
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"Link?" :flowstone: get outta here with that "link?"..this thread is personal belief, not race violence statistics.

I wasn't talkin to you, but I meant "personal truth" is subjective.
What we hold dear and true in our hearts, is all the truth we need to know.



link?




You may think of yourself as well read and intelligent or whatever, but when dealing with matters of personal, spiritual experience, you seem to be rather ignorant.




Thank you makes me actually very happy to know after my abuse of psychedelics I am still very rational and logical


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: musiclover420]
    #21779686 - 06/08/15 05:13 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

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The Doobie Dude said:
stop with this hippie pseudo shit or at least give me a good argument




It's funny becouse all you have said in your defense is wiki sucks :lol:



All you've provided in your defense is wiki :lol:


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #21779789 - 06/08/15 05:38 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

Wiki is nice becouse it sums things up in a easy to understand manner making it perfect for sharing info, they also compile most of the info on many subjects.

" Can philosophy develop by itself, without the support of science? Can science "work" without philosophy? Some people think that the sciences can stand apart from philosophy, that the scientist should actually avoid philosophising, the latter often being understood as groundless and generally vague theorising. If the term philosophy is given such a poor interpretation, then of course anyone would agree with the warning "Physics, beware of metaphysics!" But no such warning applies to philosophy in the higher sense of the term. The specific sciences cannot and should not break their connections with true philosophy.

Science and philosophy have always learned from each other. Philosophy tirelessly draws from scientific discoveries fresh strength, material for broad generalisations, while to the sciences it imparts the world-view and methodological im pulses of its universal principles. Many general guiding ideas that lie at the foundation of modern science were first enunciated by the perceptive force of philosophical thought. One example is the idea of the atomic structure of things voiced by Democritus. Certain conjectures about natural selection were made in ancient times by the philosopher Lucretius and later by the French thinker Diderot. Hypothetically he anticipated what became a scientific fact two centuries later. We may also recall the Cartesian reflex and the philosopher's proposition on the conservation of motion in the universe. On the general philosophical plane Spinoza gave grounds for the universal principle of determinism. The idea of the existence of molecules as complex particles consisting of atoms was developed in the works of the French philosopher Pierre Gassendi and also Russia's Mikhail Lomonosov. Philosophy nurtured the hypothesis of the cellular structure of animal and vegetable organisms and formulated the idea of the development and universal connection of phenomena and the principle of the material unity of the world. Lenin formulated one of the fundamental ideas of contemporary natural science—the principle of the inexhaustibility of matter—upon which scientists rely as a firm methodological foundation."

Philosophy and Science

This person sums up the connections pretty well. They have become distinct but science originated out of philosophy to some extent.

The "theorizing" or "philosophizing" part of science was the start and when people started "testing" things or putting thoughts into action to "prove" things they branched out into separate "fields". Science is just the side of evidence and proof where as philosophy is the side of thought and theory. They are both interconnected though and equally important IMO, and many other knowledgeable people's such as the author of that paper.


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: The Doobie Dude] * 3
    #21779830 - 06/08/15 05:48 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

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Turtletotem said:
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1234go said:


"Link?" :flowstone: get outta here with that "link?"..this thread is personal belief, not race violence statistics.

I wasn't talkin to you, but I meant "personal truth" is subjective.
What we hold dear and true in our hearts, is all the truth we need to know.



link?




You may think of yourself as well read and intelligent or whatever, but when dealing with matters of personal, spiritual experience, you seem to be rather ignorant.




Thank you makes me actually very happy to know after my abuse of psychedelics I am still very rational and logical



:allsodisappointed:

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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: propensity]
    #21779899 - 06/08/15 06:00 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: propensity]
    #21779944 - 06/08/15 06:09 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

That gif is great :thumbup:


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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: musiclover420]
    #21781685 - 06/09/15 04:01 AM (9 years, 23 days ago)

I just summed it all up with new insights in another thread, so here's the same message in other metaphors.

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That question is not unanswerable. I have been pondering it for 42 years and results are pouring in lately.

To borrow from the bible, the first line from the first book says it all really:

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In the beginning, God created the Heaven and the Earth.

Genesis 1:1




THat is it. Let me dissect it for you.

As we know from Eastern Philosophy, theres duality in the universe :yinyang: and All Is One.

So how did this universe come into being?

First the first duality sprang forth out of the Oneness.

THE FIRST DUALITY:

"God created In The Beginning"

For a universe to start, the Oneness needed a beginning, so it first created Time.
God + Time

THE SECOND DUALITY

"God created the Heaven and the Earth"

The Oneness is now a Duality. This duality, together, The Oneness and Separation (Time) created the Heaven (Void, Space) and and the Earth (Matter)

So there you have it. The Oneness formed the First Duality and the First Duality created the Second Duality and so forth. Now there are Four, now things can truly begin.

Aha, efendi, your question is: what is the nature of this Oneness?
A physicist who thinks along could answer that.

The nature of the undivided Oneness, is attraction without repulsion. In physics this expresses as Gravity, as the Electromagnetic Force, as the Strong Force and Weak Force that comprise the forces of the universe.

A force of attraction without repulsion, attracting itself, to pieces and back again, for all eternity.

In humans, it expresses most clearly as LOVE. You can love each other to pieces and love can bring yo together.

Whats love got to do with it?

"Attraction/Affinity" is a dynamic force. In order for something to be dynamic, there must be a degree of Awareness, like the revolution of the moon around the earth causes the tides. That is an awareness of sorts. Thus..

The Universe in all of its guises is Self Aware. It is an attraction, it is a consciousness, it could be called an organism and since its all there is you could call it a Deity. The Universe is a God.

Note how each collection of Dualities, creates the next collection of Dualities, doubling the complexity of the universe each time. After maximal complexity is reached it attracts towards decreased complexity until it is One again, and the cycle is complete:

1 2 4 8 16 32 64 32 16 6 4 2 1

Each increment is the sum of all Duality therefore is the Universe entirely. Aly group of increments and all increments entirely are the Universe entirely. That means that every single thing in the universe, IS the universe entirely. Every single thing is the center of the universe.

Your entire life is the universe entirely
You are the universe entirely
Each organ of you is the universe entirely
Each cell of you is the universe entirely
each molecule of you is the universe entirely
each atom of you is the universe entirely

All Is One - You Are That.

Your nature is not that of the set of dualities that comprises your life, no you die and are being reborn constantly, this is what propels you through time.

YOU ARE THE UNIVERSE ENTIRELY, TRANSFORMING ITSELF INTO ALL ITS GUISES FOR ALL ETERNITY.

You are a human,. a thought, a galaxy, a rainbow.. there is a succession in all things and that is the path of your evolution.

There, an answer to your question. Think hard about it and tell me if you hear the music.

All Is One - You Are That
The Only Reality is Love, Everything Else is an Illusion.
You are the Universe experiencing itself.
In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth.
Every Angel is a God.
Yin Is Yang.

Its all true. All metaphors for the same thing.




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Re: Guys.. I found IT. Wish me luck. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #21781691 - 06/09/15 04:05 AM (9 years, 23 days ago)

I guess the tl;dr version would just say "everything is everything". 

I guess I get co-author credit on your thesis now.

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