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OfflineSecretSalad
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The snack that smiles back :)
    #21778830 - 06/08/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

115 grams wet, 4 flush from 66qt monotub cambodian varietal



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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: SecretSalad]
    #21778836 - 06/08/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Going to make a culture from that giant?


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #21782833 - 06/09/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i approve :crazy2:


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #21782966 - 06/09/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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YaMoonSun said:
Going to make a culture from that giant?



Uhhh....
Cloning from a 4th flush? :ilold:


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: Buck513]
    #21782990 - 06/09/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:niggawhat:
I'm more than willing to hear you out if you've got the time to explain


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: Buck513]
    #21782995 - 06/09/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Buck513 said:
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YaMoonSun said:
Going to make a culture from that giant?



Uhhh....
Cloning from a 4th flush? :ilold:




You're rlly good at just laughing at people. Explain why not to clone from the 4th flush. Lol. Come on man xD
Anywho, thats a goliath in terms of weight. Nice job.


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: ConcreteWaves]
    #21783019 - 06/09/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Poor genetics is why we don't clone from later flushes. The best genetics are in the first flush, and sometimes I'll clone from the second flush if desperate for materials. Any later flushes don't have ideal dna, so generally we don't clone from them.


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: Myconin]
    #21783026 - 06/09/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Myconin said:
Poor genetics is why we don't clone from later flushes. The best genetics are in the first flush, and sometimes I'll clone from the second flush if desperate for materials. Any later flushes don't have ideal dna, so generally we don't clone from them.




With that said, you think tripping off mushies from Flush 1 vs Flush 4 effects would be different in terms of potency?


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: Myconin]
    #21783027 - 06/09/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Because it will take a stupid long fuckin time to pin.

How long from spawning to bulk till you reach a 4th flush? That's how long you'll be waiting.
Youre supposed to clone from 1st flush, hell people get bashed for cloning 2nd flush.

Its not my fault I laugh at funny shit people do/say.


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: ConcreteWaves]
    #21783037 - 06/09/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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ConcreteWaves said:
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Myconin said:
Poor genetics is why we don't clone from later flushes. The best genetics are in the first flush, and sometimes I'll clone from the second flush if desperate for materials. Any later flushes don't have ideal dna, so generally we don't clone from them.




With that said, you think tripping off mushies from Flush 1 vs Flush 4 effects would be different in terms of potency?




Potency won't really differ at all. The reason we don't clone later flushes is what Buck513 is trying to say, the myc will take much longer to colonize and fruit because of poor genetics. You'd normally want the best genes for your babies :thumbup:


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ThirtyCigarettes said: "All I know is every other thread I see in the Cultivation forum goes like this: QUESTION > ANSWER > DIFFERENT ANSWER > ARGUE > TC COMES AND CLEARS IT UP"


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: Myconin]
    #21783052 - 06/09/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think it's poor genetics, I think it's more of senescence. The mycelium is aging, and more prone to contams and also taking longer to fruit due t it being old.

Not that better genetics happen at first flush, just usually first flush is youngest.


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: Buck513]
    #21783059 - 06/09/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Makes me wish I had grabbed a LC from this bad boy; It was the densest, most potent mushroom I've ever had. Was my first too.



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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: Achillita]
    #21783061 - 06/09/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Achillita said:
I don't think it's poor genetics, I think it's more of senescence. The mycelium is aging, and more prone to contams and also taking longer to fruit due t it being old.

Not that better genetics happen at first flush, just usually first flush is youngest.




Old genetics = Poor genetics, so, you've agreed with me. Senescence is the correct term for it, but it means the same thing. Younger genetics = better: because speed of colonization and resistance to contams. Old genetics = poor: because of slower colonization and susceptibility to contams. We agree lol


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"I have just three things to teach: Simplicity, Patience, Compassion. These three are your greatest treasures." - Lao Tzu
"You've just gotta keep on keepin' on, man. You can't have 'no' in your heart" - Joe Dirt

ThirtyCigarettes said: "All I know is every other thread I see in the Cultivation forum goes like this: QUESTION > ANSWER > DIFFERENT ANSWER > ARGUE > TC COMES AND CLEARS IT UP"


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: Myconin]
    #21783071 - 06/09/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Are you taking a spore print in open air with your hands and other objects touching the foil?


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #21783089 - 06/09/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes we do :lol: Well I feel stupid now
:dawerp:
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YaMoonSun said:
Makes me wish I had grabbed a LC from this bad boy; It was the densest, most potent mushroom I've ever had. Was my first too.





I know that feel man, My first grow ever was potent as shit I mean 2.5 grams had reality unraveling. I wish I cloned these suckers :C


Oh yeah why are you taking the print like that?


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: Buck513]
    #21783136 - 06/09/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Buck513 said:
Are you taking a spore print in open air with your hands and other objects touching the foil?



At the time, yes, I was at least attempting to, but grew impatient and ate it the same night I picked it. Very first mushroom/grow. I think next time I attempt to take a print I'm going to flip a class upside down and cover it. Also, probably going to let it mature a bit longer.


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #21783147 - 06/09/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Make sure the foil/cup is clean.
No print is 100% clean, but you can save yourself a lot of time and frustration by being clean from the get go. I'm sure that print would be a pain to clean up on agar


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Re: The snack that smiles back :) [Re: Buck513]
    #21783229 - 06/09/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You bet man.


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